From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability of mobile voting? Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile phones) improve election outcomes and transparency? Best, -- Zack.
Estonia implemented online voting. dss
On 14 Nov 2016, at 16.20, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> wrote:
From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu>
Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability of mobile voting? Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile phones) improve election outcomes and transparency?
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There is no country having implemented internet voting via mobile. There are some internet voting protocols that could run on a smart phone though (not the Estonian though) … ________________________________ Prof. Dr. Robert Krimmer Professor of e-Governance -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> im Auftrag von David Stodolsky <dss@secureid.net> Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 18:25 An: Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> Cc: UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting Estonia implemented online voting. dss > On 14 Nov 2016, at 16.20, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> wrote: > > From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> > > Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? > Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability > of mobile voting? > Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would > the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile > phones) improve election outcomes and transparency? > > Best, > -- > Zack. > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ David Stodolsky dss@secureid.org Skype/Twitter: davidstodolsky _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Theoretically mVoting is an excellent method for elections though it is most widely used for polling or surveys.. mVoting for elections with a proven mID system is even more stronger case but... there are issues regarding security of mobile communications, transparency of the code / institutions, digital divide etc.. Estonia is an early example and a good one and perhaps Australian case is more recent.. I don't know any comprehensive research on the topic but there is definitely a need and would be interested to know about such research too. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Robert Krimmer <robert.krimmer@ttu.ee> wrote:
There is no country having implemented internet voting via mobile. There are some internet voting protocols that could run on a smart phone though (not the Estonian though) …
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> im Auftrag von David Stodolsky <dss@secureid.net> Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 18:25 An: Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> Cc: UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting
Estonia implemented online voting.
dss
> On 14 Nov 2016, at 16.20, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> wrote: > > From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> > > Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? > Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability > of mobile voting? > Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would > the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile > phones) improve election outcomes and transparency? > > Best, > -- > Zack. > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/
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Fully agree here; while estonia uses m-id to identify and authenticate for its internet voting, the protocol itself doesn’t run on the mobile. Don’t know the Australian well enough at this point to make a call. ________________________________ Prof. Dr. Robert Krimmer Professor of e-Governance -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ibrahim Kushchu <ikushchu@gmail.com> Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 20:16 An: Robert Krimmer <robert.krimmer@ttu.ee> Cc: David Stodolsky <dss@secureid.net>, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu>, UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting Theoretically mVoting is an excellent method for elections though it is most widely used for polling or surveys.. mVoting for elections with a proven mID system is even more stronger case but... there are issues regarding security of mobile communications, transparency of the code / institutions, digital divide etc.. Estonia is an early example and a good one and perhaps Australian case is more recent.. I don't know any comprehensive research on the topic but there is definitely a need and would be interested to know about such research too. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Robert Krimmer <robert.krimmer@ttu.ee> wrote: > There is no country having implemented internet voting via mobile. There are some internet voting protocols that could run on a smart phone though (not the Estonian though) … > > ________________________________ > > Prof. Dr. Robert Krimmer > Professor of e-Governance > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> im Auftrag von David Stodolsky <dss@secureid.net> > Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 18:25 > An: Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> > Cc: UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> > Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting > > Estonia implemented online voting. > > dss > > > On 14 Nov 2016, at 16.20, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> wrote: > > > > From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> > > > > Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? > > Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability > > of mobile voting? > > Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would > > the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile > > phones) improve election outcomes and transparency? > > > > Best, > > -- > > Zack. > > _______________________________________________ > > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > > http://www.aoir.org/ > > David Stodolsky > dss@secureid.org Skype/Twitter: davidstodolsky > > > > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/
Hi all — I’d like to raise a point that isn’t countenanced in the discussions below (so far as I can tell). Making voting easier is priority for democracies, but how it is made easier seems to me to matter. This may be my inner parochial New Englander speaking, but: I actually think there is something civically important about the ritual of going to a voting place, seeing your local community volunteering, people agreeing/disagreeing on candidates but still living together, feeling attached to / part of a broader deliberative body, etc, as opposed to an atomized individual who exists nowhere only to operate a mobile device. Now, I realize that this opinion comes from a position of relative privilege, and that the analogue voting infrastructure disenfranchises people in any number of ways. My point, I guess, is that if we consider where and how to invest money and effort in expanding the franchise, I’d probably lean toward looking at local contexts and figuring out how to make voting part of a broader process of visible community deliberation as opposed to a narrow engineering-systems problem. This is one of Morozov’s stronger points in his book on solutionism: that ‘liquid democracy’ or ‘digital democracy’ often elides the core principles of democratic theory, i.e. that political solidarity arises from respectful negotiation of mutually intelligible lifeworlds, and the balance between disenfranchising struggle and democratizing struggle is very delicate. In a world where we continue to see massive widening gulfs between subcultures and map/territory, whether and how these consensus/voting mechanisms are implemented technologically and civically seems like it should be a topic of conversation. Best, — Chris
On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Ibrahim Kushchu <ikushchu@gmail.com> wrote:
Theoretically mVoting is an excellent method for elections though it is most widely used for polling or surveys..
mVoting for elections with a proven mID system is even more stronger case but... there are issues regarding security of mobile communications, transparency of the code / institutions, digital divide etc..
Estonia is an early example and a good one and perhaps Australian case is more recent..
I don't know any comprehensive research on the topic but there is definitely a need and would be interested to know about such research too.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Robert Krimmer <robert.krimmer@ttu.ee> wrote:
There is no country having implemented internet voting via mobile. There are some internet voting protocols that could run on a smart phone though (not the Estonian though) …
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Prof. Dr. Robert Krimmer Professor of e-Governance
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> im Auftrag von David Stodolsky <dss@secureid.net> Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 18:25 An: Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> Cc: UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu> Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting
Estonia implemented online voting.
dss
On 14 Nov 2016, at 16.20, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu> wrote:
From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu>
Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability of mobile voting? Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile phones) improve election outcomes and transparency?
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Sure that’s an important element to it – but postal voting is a much more common way (look at Oregon or Switzerland for that matter) of voting outside the polling station (if we consider that the place of exchanging opinions and celebrating the festival democracy) and hence a bigger threat than the relatively uncommon internet or mobile phone voting. ________________________________ Prof. Dr. Robert Krimmer Professor of e-Governance Von: Chris Peterson <chris@cpeterson.org> Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 20:26 An: Ibrahim Kushchu <ikushchu@gmail.com> Cc: Robert Krimmer <robert.krimmer@ttu.ee>, UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org> Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting Hi all — I’d like to raise a point that isn’t countenanced in the discussions below (so far as I can tell). Making voting easier is priority for democracies, but how it is made easier seems to me to matter. This may be my inner parochial New Englander speaking, but: I actually think there is something civically important about the ritual of going to a voting place, seeing your local community volunteering, people agreeing/disagreeing on candidates but still living together, feeling attached to / part of a broader deliberative body, etc, as opposed to an atomized individual who exists nowhere only to operate a mobile device. Now, I realize that this opinion comes from a position of relative privilege, and that the analogue voting infrastructure disenfranchises people in any number of ways. My point, I guess, is that if we consider where and how to invest money and effort in expanding the franchise, I’d probably lean toward looking at local contexts and figuring out how to make voting part of a broader process of visible community deliberation as opposed to a narrow engineering-systems problem. This is one of Morozov’s stronger points in his book on solutionism: that ‘liquid democracy’ or ‘digital democracy’ often elides the core principles of democratic theory, i.e. that political solidarity arises from respectful negotiation of mutually intelligible lifeworlds, and the balance between disenfranchising struggle and democratizing struggle is very delicate. In a world where we continue to see massive widening gulfs between subcultures and map/territory, whether and how these consensus/voting mechanisms are implemented technologically and civically seems like it should be a topic of conversation. Best, — Chris On Nov 14, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Ibrahim Kushchu <ikushchu@gmail.com<mailto:ikushchu@gmail.com>> wrote: Theoretically mVoting is an excellent method for elections though it is most widely used for polling or surveys.. mVoting for elections with a proven mID system is even more stronger case but... there are issues regarding security of mobile communications, transparency of the code / institutions, digital divide etc.. Estonia is an early example and a good one and perhaps Australian case is more recent.. I don't know any comprehensive research on the topic but there is definitely a need and would be interested to know about such research too. On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Robert Krimmer <robert.krimmer@ttu.ee<mailto:robert.krimmer@ttu.ee>> wrote: There is no country having implemented internet voting via mobile. There are some internet voting protocols that could run on a smart phone though (not the Estonian though) … ________________________________ Prof. Dr. Robert Krimmer Professor of e-Governance -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org>> im Auftrag von David Stodolsky <dss@secureid.net<mailto:dss@secureid.net>> Datum: Montag, 14. November 2016 um 18:25 An: Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu<mailto:companys@stanford.edu>> Cc: UC Berkeley Tier <TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu<mailto:TIER@tier.cs.berkeley.edu>>, AIR <air-l@aoir.org<mailto:air-l@aoir.org>>, UW Change Group <change@change.washington.edu<mailto:change@change.washington.edu>>, Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu<mailto:zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu>> Betreff: Re: [Air-L] E-Voting Estonia implemented online voting. dss On 14 Nov 2016, at 16.20, Yosem Companys <companys@stanford.edu<mailto:companys@stanford.edu>> wrote: From: Zacharia Gichiriri <zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu<mailto:zacharia.gichiriri@strathmore.edu>> Are there any countries that have implemented a form of mobile voting? Is there any research on the potential, challenges and applicability of mobile voting? Considering the explosive growth of mobile phones across Africa, would the use of mobile phones for elections (citizens voting through mobile phones) improve election outcomes and transparency? 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