Re: [Air-L] Informatization?
I'm fairly sure it is an anglicization of the French "informatisation"... Which if I'm not mistaken was first used in the Nora/Minc Report L'informatisation de la société: rapport à M. le Président de la République http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapport_Nora-Minc and wikipedia even seems to have had the same thought :) Informatization - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatization - Origin of the term. The term informatisation was coined by Simon Nora and Alain Minc in their publication L'Informatisation de la société: Rapport à M. le ... M -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Halavais Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:41 PM To: katja.mayer@univie.ac.at Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Informatization? I have largely seen this term used in Japanese (in which the -ization suffix is a lot less cumbersome), and used in the sense of other developmental -izations, like "modernization," "industrialization," and "internationalization," to refer to public policy designed to encourage changes in social and economic structure. I have seen it used in other contexts--e.g., by IGOs--but always assumed for some reason it was borrowed from the Japanese. Alex On Jul 8, 2012 10:26 AM, "Katja Mayer" <katja.mayer@univie.ac.at> wrote:
Dear list members,
if you hear or read "informatization", how would you contextualize this term?
I am asking this, because I have a rather specific idea of what informatization entails (a rather quantitative, technocratic context, looking for measurements of technological diffusion and impact on labour, e-commerce and other fields...) and I would like to know more about other approaches.
Are there any other connotations? Maybe in french literature? (Since the term was used in the 1978 presidential report by Nora/Minc: L'informatisation de la societe.)
Thanks for your assistence, Katja
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Hi, Katja, I also wonder if it has to do with the process, as in, the process of making society/culture information-based. Much in the same way that political scientists discuss democratization, for example. Hope this helps, Peter On 7/8/12, michael gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm fairly sure it is an anglicization of the French "informatisation"... Which if I'm not mistaken was first used in the Nora/Minc Report
L'informatisation de la société: rapport à M. le Président de la République
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapport_Nora-Minc and wikipedia even seems to have had the same thought :)
Informatization - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatization -
Origin of the term. The term informatisation was coined by Simon Nora and Alain Minc in their publication L'Informatisation de la société: Rapport à M. le ...
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-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Halavais Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 5:41 PM To: katja.mayer@univie.ac.at Cc: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Informatization?
I have largely seen this term used in Japanese (in which the -ization suffix is a lot less cumbersome), and used in the sense of other developmental -izations, like "modernization," "industrialization," and "internationalization," to refer to public policy designed to encourage changes in social and economic structure. I have seen it used in other contexts--e.g., by IGOs--but always assumed for some reason it was borrowed from the Japanese.
Alex On Jul 8, 2012 10:26 AM, "Katja Mayer" <katja.mayer@univie.ac.at> wrote:
Dear list members,
if you hear or read "informatization", how would you contextualize this term?
I am asking this, because I have a rather specific idea of what informatization entails (a rather quantitative, technocratic context, looking for measurements of technological diffusion and impact on labour, e-commerce and other fields...) and I would like to know more about other approaches.
Are there any other connotations? Maybe in french literature? (Since the term was used in the 1978 presidential report by Nora/Minc: L'informatisation de la societe.)
Thanks for your assistence, Katja
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Perhaps multiple beginnings? Real life Japanese speakers please correct me, but I think 情報化 translates pretty neatly into "informatization" (though perhaps not as neatly as does "informatisation"!), and was used in the title of a book by Yujiro Hayashi in 1969. And a little searching finds this--not Wikipedia, but someone else had the same idea: Alistair S. Duff, Information Society Studies, London: Routledge, 2000, p. 3: """ The alternative theory claims that 'the term "information society" was itself coined in Japan' (Morris-Suzuki 1988: 3). Two cognates are involved. 'Joho Shakai' is normally translated into English as 'information society', but has also been rendered as 'information-oriented society', 'information-conscious society', and 'information-centered society'. 'Johoka Shakai', which uses a verbal form of 'joho', has a sense analogous to 'industrialised society', and is translated variously as 'informised society, 'informatised society', 'informationised society' or sometimes simply (again) 'information society'. """ Elsewhere, Duff attributes the pick up and use of the term "informatization" in English to Ian Miles (he apparently calls it "an ugly but apt neologism"), who had pulled directly from the Nora-Minc report... In any case, in response to the original question, I suspect tracking down a copy of the Duff book might be useful... - Alex On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 3:31 PM, michael gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm fairly sure it is an anglicization of the French "informatisation"... Which if I'm not mistaken was first used in the Nora/Minc Report
L'informatisation de la société: rapport à M. le Président de la République
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapport_Nora-Minc and wikipedia even seems to have had the same thought :)
Informatization - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informatization -
Origin of the term. The term informatisation was coined by Simon Nora and Alain Minc in their publication L'Informatisation de la société: Rapport à M. le ...
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