Re: [Air-L] For everyone and their grad students: Fake, pay-to-publish journals & conferences
True, but software now handles a lot of the organizational issues related to (particularly OA) publishing (we use OJS <http://pkp.sfu.ca/ojs> ) and varous forms of communication and information management tools handle quite a lot of the "expertise" issues... (by for example, dramatically increasing the range of human and other resources to which one has easy and low cost access including for editing, reviewing, consulting with colleagues, software support etc. It doesn't reduce the need for the expertise but it does make accessing and using that expertise a lot more time/cost efficient (in publishing as in almost every other area of human endeavour...But of course, the expertise requirement that remains. M Michael Gurstein, Ph.D. Editor in Chief: Journal of Community Informatics web: http://ci-journal.net email: gurstein@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian Butler [mailto:bsbutler@umd.edu] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:49 AM To: michael gurstein Cc: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] For everyone and their grad students: Fake, pay-to-publish journals & conferences mmm. It is worthwhile to distinguish "publishing" from "distribution". Distribution has gotten much cheaper. Publishing remains a highly labor intensive activity that requires significant expertise and organization to do well. .. On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:42 PM, michael gurstein wrote:
Publishing may be dirt cheap but any systematic/formal e.g. academic
publishing isn't free... So the problem is that while there is a
necessary and valuable shift from commercial publishing (and
outrageous profiteering) to open access online publishing there really
aren't any good business models yet to cover the (much less but not
totally trivial) costs of the new forms of academic publishing.
If for whatever reason (and there are lots including the issues
pointed to
here) one doesn't want to go to a pay for play model that leaves
advertising(???) or donations (???) or...
M
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Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:38 AM
To: Nathaniel Poor
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] For everyone and their grad students: Fake,
pay-to-publish journals & conferences
How long till someone marries up the PGP Web-of-Trust and LinkedIn and
ISI impact factors / JCR and some other social media data to vet
conferences as reputable or not?
Imagine cryptographically signing that you were at a conference and
found it viable as a real academic interaction - or not. And being
able to mark as trusted/invalidating other people's evaluations of events.
And imagine how little time it would take for people to start trying
to game such a system. ;-)
best,
--e
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Nathaniel Poor <natpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/for-scientists-an-exploding-
w
orld-of-pseudo-academia.html
"The scientists who were recruited to appear at a conference called
Entomology-2013 thought they had been selected to make a presentation
to the leading professional association of scientists who study
insects. But they found out the hard way that they were wrong...."
This has been a problem for a while, but now it's big enough to be a
newspaper story.
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Nathaniel Poor, Ph.D.
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