Inclusion of short links in academic publications?
Thank you all for your comments! The reason I asked is not because of a word limit but because one of my committee members suggested I'd use short links to ease access for readers of the print dissertation. I do have quite a lot of electronic sources as footnotes in some of the chapters and he mentioned he'd have typed a shortened url but not a long one. An alternative would be to include short urls in the footnotes and add an appendix with corresponding long links. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle though. On 22 July 2011 16:39, Sharon Haleva Amir <sharon@trebcon.com> wrote:
Yana, the only advantage I can think of regarding the usage of shortened URL is if you're writing an article and there is a words' limitation (as long as the limitation refers to the bibliography/footnotes as well as the article itself), as sometimes the URLs can be quite long.
I think that the need to shorten texts (for twitting etc.) was the basic rational for establishing such services.
Best Wishes, Sharon Haleva Amir, HCLT Fellow (PhD Candidate) Faculty of Law, University of Haifa, ISRAEL. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.coolcite.com/user/1694 http://weblaw.haifa.ac.il/en/research/resstudents/pages/sharonha.aspx
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Hello all,
I was wondering what your thoughts were concerning the use of shortened URLs (e.g. tinyURL, bit.ly etc.) to reference electronic sources in a dissertation or other academic publication (along with the title, date, etc. possibly an annexe with the long URL). Has this been done already? Is it acceptable? Are there important differences between various shortening sites?
Thank you,
Yana
--------------------- Yana BREINDL
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I spent a summer using Google and other searches for a project studying high school curriculum across Canada and other pan Canadian topics like health services. I had fifty pages of Chicago reference styles links in my bibliography. My only point in sharing this, is to suggest that there are automated tools you can use for this size of list. I used a custom bibliographic style in RefWorks for this one. You can also do some good automation with a spreadsheet and save as txt files and then re-opening them in Excel/Open Office where you can do slice and dice text stuff with special separator symbols besides the usually comma separated. Works for iTunes exported txt files too if you want to try having some music related data munging fun. Then again you could learn PERL and do even more fancy stuff. Does anyone do automation with LaTeX files? My thesis was going to be typeset in LaTeX not Word. My opinion on the use of shortened URLs would be that I want the full long URL, so as a reader I can assess the link before clicking. I would not want many dot coms in an academic paper only gov's or edu's or org's. That's my two cents worth. Peter Timusk at571@ncf.ca ptimusk@sympatico.ca web: www.crystalcomputing.net blogs www.cyborgcitizen.org -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of yana breindl Sent: July-22-11 10:59 AM To: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-L] Inclusion of short links in academic publications? Thank you all for your comments! The reason I asked is not because of a word limit but because one of my committee members suggested I'd use short links to ease access for readers of the print dissertation. I do have quite a lot of electronic sources as footnotes in some of the chapters and he mentioned he'd have typed a shortened url but not a long one. An alternative would be to include short urls in the footnotes and add an appendix with corresponding long links. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle though. On 22 July 2011 16:39, Sharon Haleva Amir <sharon@trebcon.com> wrote:
Yana, the only advantage I can think of regarding the usage of shortened URL is if you're writing an article and there is a words' limitation (as long as the limitation refers to the bibliography/footnotes as well as the article itself), as sometimes the URLs can be quite long.
I think that the need to shorten texts (for twitting etc.) was the basic rational for establishing such services.
Best Wishes, Sharon Haleva Amir, HCLT Fellow (PhD Candidate) Faculty of Law, University of Haifa, ISRAEL. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.coolcite.com/user/1694 http://weblaw.haifa.ac.il/en/research/resstudents/pages/sharonha.aspx
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of yana breindl Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:27 AM To: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-L] Inclusion of short links in academic publications?
Hello all,
I was wondering what your thoughts were concerning the use of shortened URLs (e.g. tinyURL, bit.ly etc.) to reference electronic sources in a dissertation or other academic publication (along with the title, date, etc. possibly an annexe with the long URL). Has this been done already? Is it acceptable? Are there important differences between various shortening sites?
Thank you,
Yana
--------------------- Yana BREINDL
Ph.D Candidate Dépt des sciences de l'information et de la communication (SIC) Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
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On Friday, July 22, 2011, you wrote:
Does anyone do automation with LaTeX files? My thesis was going to be typeset in LaTeX not Word.
My dissertation and book were Markdown + MindMaps (XML) --> LaTeX + biblatex. http://reagle.org/joseph/blog/career/phd/dissertation/steinhardt-latex
On Friday, July 22, 2011, yana breindl wrote:
The reason I asked is not because of a word limit but because one of my committee members suggested I'd use short links to ease access for readers of the print dissertation. I do have quite a lot of electronic sources as footnotes in some of the chapters and he mentioned he'd have typed a shortened url but not a long one.
But typing in random strings of digits -- even if shorter -- can be a pain too.
An alternative would be to include short urls in the footnotes and add an appendix with corresponding long links. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle though.
Or, just put the bibliography online. (I imagined that would much easier than typing in URLs). Since so many of my URLs are from WP, I used the short form of those and others URLs in the printed version, but long one's in the online one. For example: http://reagle.org/joseph/2010/gfc/bibliography http://en.wikipedia.org/?oldid=289128389 --> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Wikipediholic&oldid=2891...
My objection to using shortened URLs academically is more fundamental - it adds an additional potential point of failure between the reader and the target address. URL shortening companies can go bust, can be blocked or just go offline temporarily. I note that ironically the folks behind DOIs have themselves produced a DOI-shortening service http://shortdoi.org/ . But if the DOI folks go bust we are all in trouble... On 22 Jul 2011, at 15:59, yana breindl <ybreindl@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
Thank you all for your comments!
The reason I asked is not because of a word limit but because one of my committee members suggested I'd use short links to ease access for readers of the print dissertation. I do have quite a lot of electronic sources as footnotes in some of the chapters and he mentioned he'd have typed a shortened url but not a long one.
An alternative would be to include short urls in the footnotes and add an appendix with corresponding long links. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle though.
On 22 July 2011 16:39, Sharon Haleva Amir <sharon@trebcon.com> wrote:
Yana, the only advantage I can think of regarding the usage of shortened URL is if you're writing an article and there is a words' limitation (as long as the limitation refers to the bibliography/footnotes as well as the article itself), as sometimes the URLs can be quite long.
I think that the need to shorten texts (for twitting etc.) was the basic rational for establishing such services.
Best Wishes, Sharon Haleva Amir, HCLT Fellow (PhD Candidate) Faculty of Law, University of Haifa, ISRAEL. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.coolcite.com/user/1694 http://weblaw.haifa.ac.il/en/research/resstudents/pages/sharonha.aspx
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of yana breindl Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:27 AM To: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-L] Inclusion of short links in academic publications?
Hello all,
I was wondering what your thoughts were concerning the use of shortened URLs (e.g. tinyURL, bit.ly etc.) to reference electronic sources in a dissertation or other academic publication (along with the title, date, etc. possibly an annexe with the long URL). Has this been done already? Is it acceptable? Are there important differences between various shortening sites?
Thank you,
Yana
--------------------- Yana BREINDL
Ph.D Candidate Dépt des sciences de l'information et de la communication (SIC) Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
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Doctorante Dépt des sciences de l'information et de la communication (SIC) Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
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-- Yana BREINDL
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Thank you David for bringing this topic back to my attention and thank you all, list members, for your very insightful comments. As I started this thread one year ago, I just wanted to provide a final update: the dissertation has been submitted (and successfully defended) with the original URLs as well as a digital version with hyperlinked URLs, so that committee members could simply click on the URLs to access them. Everybody was happy this way and I hope this discussion has been helpful for others as well. On 18 August 2012 17:04, David Brake <davidbrake@gmail.com> wrote:
My objection to using shortened URLs academically is more fundamental - it adds an additional potential point of failure between the reader and the target address. URL shortening companies can go bust, can be blocked or just go offline temporarily.
I note that ironically the folks behind DOIs have themselves produced a DOI-shortening service http://shortdoi.org/ . But if the DOI folks go bust we are all in trouble...
On 22 Jul 2011, at 15:59, yana breindl <ybreindl@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
Thank you all for your comments!
The reason I asked is not because of a word limit but because one of my committee members suggested I'd use short links to ease access for readers of the print dissertation. I do have quite a lot of electronic sources as footnotes in some of the chapters and he mentioned he'd have typed a shortened url but not a long one.
An alternative would be to include short urls in the footnotes and add an appendix with corresponding long links. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle though.
On 22 July 2011 16:39, Sharon Haleva Amir <sharon@trebcon.com> wrote:
Yana, the only advantage I can think of regarding the usage of shortened URL is if you're writing an article and there is a words' limitation (as
long
as the limitation refers to the bibliography/footnotes as well as the article itself), as sometimes the URLs can be quite long.
I think that the need to shorten texts (for twitting etc.) was the basic rational for establishing such services.
Best Wishes, Sharon Haleva Amir, HCLT Fellow (PhD Candidate) Faculty of Law, University of Haifa, ISRAEL. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.coolcite.com/user/1694 http://weblaw.haifa.ac.il/en/research/resstudents/pages/sharonha.aspx
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of yana breindl Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:27 AM To: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-L] Inclusion of short links in academic publications?
Hello all,
I was wondering what your thoughts were concerning the use of shortened URLs (e.g. tinyURL, bit.ly etc.) to reference electronic sources in a dissertation or other academic publication (along with the title, date, etc. possibly an annexe with the long URL). Has this been done already? Is it acceptable? Are there important differences between various shortening sites?
Thank you,
Yana
--------------------- Yana BREINDL
Ph.D Candidate Dépt des sciences de l'information et de la communication (SIC) Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
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-- Yana BREINDL
Doctorante Dépt des sciences de l'information et de la communication (SIC) Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
Tél.: + 32 (0)2 650 44 46 E-mail: ybreindl@ulb.ac.be
-- Yana BREINDL
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I also used this discussion as a basis for decisions I made in referencing for my PhD which was passed in June. At the end of any reference available online, I gave both the original URL and a web citation archive URL (webcitation.org). This discussion persuaded me of the wisdom of providing both original and archive URLs. Examiners were happy with this but I think it's true value will be appreciated as time passes and the archived URLs become more useful to view material no longer hosted at its original location, assuming that webcitation.org survives! Thanks to all who participated :) Monica On 20 August 2012 19:15, yana breindl <ybreindl@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
Thank you David for bringing this topic back to my attention and thank you all, list members, for your very insightful comments. As I started this thread one year ago, I just wanted to provide a final update: the dissertation has been submitted (and successfully defended) with the original URLs as well as a digital version with hyperlinked URLs, so that committee members could simply click on the URLs to access them. Everybody was happy this way and I hope this discussion has been helpful for others as well.
On 18 August 2012 17:04, David Brake <davidbrake@gmail.com> wrote:
My objection to using shortened URLs academically is more fundamental - it adds an additional potential point of failure between the reader and the target address. URL shortening companies can go bust, can be blocked or just go offline temporarily.
I note that ironically the folks behind DOIs have themselves produced a DOI-shortening service http://shortdoi.org/ . But if the DOI folks go bust we are all in trouble...
On 22 Jul 2011, at 15:59, yana breindl <ybreindl@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
Thank you all for your comments!
The reason I asked is not because of a word limit but because one of my committee members suggested I'd use short links to ease access for readers of the print dissertation. I do have quite a lot of electronic sources as footnotes in some of the chapters and he mentioned he'd have typed a shortened url but not a long one.
An alternative would be to include short urls in the footnotes and add an appendix with corresponding long links. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle though.
On 22 July 2011 16:39, Sharon Haleva Amir <sharon@trebcon.com> wrote:
Yana, the only advantage I can think of regarding the usage of shortened URL is if you're writing an article and there is a words' limitation (as
long
as the limitation refers to the bibliography/footnotes as well as the article itself), as sometimes the URLs can be quite long.
I think that the need to shorten texts (for twitting etc.) was the basic rational for establishing such services.
Best Wishes, Sharon Haleva Amir, HCLT Fellow (PhD Candidate) Faculty of Law, University of Haifa, ISRAEL. -------------------------------------------------- http://www.coolcite.com/user/1694 http://weblaw.haifa.ac.il/en/research/resstudents/pages/sharonha.aspx
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of yana breindl Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 11:27 AM To: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-L] Inclusion of short links in academic publications?
Hello all,
I was wondering what your thoughts were concerning the use of shortened URLs (e.g. tinyURL, bit.ly etc.) to reference electronic sources in a dissertation or other academic publication (along with the title, date, etc. possibly an annexe with the long URL). Has this been done already? Is it acceptable? Are there important differences between various shortening sites?
Thank you,
Yana
--------------------- Yana BREINDL
Ph.D Candidate Dépt des sciences de l'information et de la communication (SIC) Université Libre de Bruxelles (ULB)
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