Of course the use of an image by a Media (Big or 'Citizen') as an element in a piece of commercial, or even non-commercial journalism is an issue. Leaving aside the lack of professionalism as well as the legality, here the issue is one of using an image (without consent) because the image's 'meaning' (sic) is needed for the story. The question I am working through is what happens when the image(s) 'used' (in a non-commercial, critical 'artwork') are being included not for what they signify as an individual image but because they are part of a distributed stream or flow where. It is the stream of media that is being brought in that is the subject. How, for instance do we understand http://www.flickr.com/photos/content2bdifferent/3931755030/in/set-7215762227... or indeed the Yahoo Pipes Aggergator I have put together: olympicarcades.theinternationale.com? p On 19/01/2010 23:00, air-l-request@listserv.aoir.org wrote:

Message: 4 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:34:15 +0530 From: Mridula<mridula@gmail.com> To:air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] distributed imagery and copyright (was: a question of open source ethics) Message-ID: <459bd09b1001182104j6bbf0efam767695eefa93c23f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

The issue with the independent ended up by the paper apologizing for the use of the 'all rights reserved' photo.

Here is more on it the British Journal of Photography-

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=872764

To me (as a less than amateur photographer) the issue is very clear. When I post something under 'all rights reserved' that is how it should remain. If someone asked me permission for the use of a photograph and they are not for profit, I ask for a credit and let them use it. If it is a commercial site I ask for token money and usually in India you never hear from them again.

In this part some of us use 'all rights reserved' to initiate a conversation. I once found, and not so long back, a photo of mine in an Indian national newspaper's Sunday supplement after cropping out (c) Mridula D from the image. Hence, the hesitation to use creative commons, that it would be taken as an excuse by everyone to use pictures.

Regards, Mridula

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