In an attempt to send the following paragraph to my editor (for translation) my spell checker had a psychotic episode. "Transdisciplinary Studies is an internationally oriented book series created to generate new theories and practices to extricate transdisciplinary research from the confining discourses of traditional disciplinarities. Within transdisciplinary domains, this series will publish empirically grounded, theoretically sound work seeking to identify and solve global problems that conventional disciplinary perspectives cannot capture. Transdisciplinary Studies seeks to accentuate those aspects of scholarly research which cut across todays learned disciplines in an effort to define new axiologies and forms of praxis. This series intends to promote a new appreciation for transdisciplinary research to audiences that are seeking ways of understanding complex, global problems that many now realize disciplinary perspectives cannot fully address. Scholars, policy makers, educators and researchers working to address issues in technology studies, public finance, discourse studies, professional ethics, political analysis, learning, ecological systems, modern medicine, and other fields clearly are ready to begin investing in transdisciplinary models of research. It is for those many different audiences in these diverse fields that we hope to reach, not merely with topical research, but also through considering new epistemic and ontological foundations for of transdisciplinary research." This was taken from Jeremy Hunsinger's website at: http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/ Evidently, science as Jeremy understands it, is properly described by crafting words of his own making. In my judgment, it suffers from a di-flucass of the ugang and is further compackliated by a clogged zortch. Reid _____ Dr. W. Reid Cornwell The Center For Internet Research P.O. Box 6369 Breckenridge, CO 720.212.0719 (phone) 970.485.5109 (mobile) <mailto:wrc@tcfir.org> wrc@tcfir.org http://tcfir.org
Reid, Spellcheckers will always contain words we already know, right? How can we describe what we don't know? Where would "conserving" our knowledge lead us? Jarek Janio Rancho Santiago Canyon College Orange, California
From: "Dr. W. Reid Cornwell" <wrc@tcfir.org> Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org, wrc@tcfir.org To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: [Air-l] Ellis and Jeremy Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:22:10 -0600
In an attempt to send the following paragraph to my editor (for translation) my spell checker had a psychotic episode.
"Transdisciplinary Studies is an internationally oriented book series created to generate new theories and practices to extricate transdisciplinary research from the confining discourses of traditional disciplinarities. Within transdisciplinary domains, this series will publish empirically grounded, theoretically sound work seeking to identify and solve global problems that conventional disciplinary perspectives cannot capture. Transdisciplinary Studies seeks to accentuate those aspects of scholarly research which cut across todays learned disciplines in an effort to define new axiologies and forms of praxis. This series intends to promote a new appreciation for transdisciplinary research to audiences that are seeking ways of understanding complex, global problems that many now realize disciplinary perspectives cannot fully address. Scholars, policy makers, educators and researchers working to address issues in technology studies, public finance, discourse studies, professional ethics, political analysis, learning, ecological systems, modern medicine, and other fields clearly are ready to begin investing in transdisciplinary models of research. It is for those many different audiences in these diverse fields that we hope to reach, not merely with topical research, but also through considering new epistemic and ontological foundations for of transdisciplinary research."
This was taken from Jeremy Hunsinger's website at: http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/
Evidently, science as Jeremy understands it, is properly described by crafting words of his own making. In my judgment, it suffers from a di-flucass of the ugang and is further compackliated by a clogged zortch.
Reid
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Amazingly enough... I disagree with your truculent presentation, but, i think that the cfp stands on its own along with our esteemed editorial board. You might disagree with the presentation that we put forth for transdisciplinary studies, as it is not an easy concept to grasp and the series certainly won't be for everyone. Disagreeing is fine, go start your own book series, because in the end, it is what you actually do and produce that is of merit that matters, not your truculence. I think you will find all of the words that I use are to be found in appropriate dictionaries and encyclopedias. I'm sorry if your reductive mechanisms of mind do not find them amenable. I suggest buying a better computer, with a better spell checker, one that recognizes grammar and spelling beyond the 10th grade level that microsoft word is generally recognized as having. With that in hand, I assure you, we'll pass your inspection. I suggest beyond this that your presentation might be what I would term alienating and perhaps even anti-collegial, which I tend to think as antagonistic toward the nature of AoIR. It is my opinion that if you wish to try to take someone down a few notches in the future... that you contact them first, engage them in conversation, perhaps even gain a mutual respect and understanding, and then if you still desire to say that 'your spellchecker doesn't understand their text' in public, then feel free. Have a great evening, _j On Aug 11, 2006, at 7:22 PM, Dr. W. Reid Cornwell wrote:
This was taken from Jeremy Hunsinger's website at: http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/
Evidently, science as Jeremy understands it, is properly described by crafting words of his own making. In my judgment, it suffers from a di-flucass of the ugang and is further compackliated by a clogged zortch.
Reid
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I had some difficulty understanding the query Reid was presenting in his email. It took a bit of translating, I think. I'll try to describe my reasoning. The initial, plain reading was that Reid didn't understand the paragraph because it contained words he was unfamiliar with. I tried to find them. The paragraph in question passes through Word with far fewer red squigglies than most of mine, and I consider my own writing to be downright folksy. Gods help us if we are limited to Word's words. With the exception of an AWOL apostrophe, I cant think what I would change. Simply writing to a list indicating you don't understand particular words strikes me as a terrific waste of time, so I realized that Reid must have something else in mind. Clearly, there was a deeper meaning that needed to be drawn out. Perhaps what Reid was saying is this: "Although exposed to terms like axiology and praxis--as any social scientist has been over the last few decades, whether wittingly or no--those in my own field(s) tend to treat these ideas superficially and uncritically. I wonder whether Jeremy or others might be willing to provide some good entry points to the idea of transdisciplinarity for someone who does not have a significant background in, say, cultural studies or STS." At least that is the way I translated his epistle, and as someone who has spent the last few years bathed in a different kind of scholarly credo, it resonates with me. Its purpose was not transparent, and I suppose there are other possible interpretations. I hope that Reid will correct me if the one I have proffered is incorrect. Alex PS. Yes, I made up the word "squigglies." It is a portmanteau of "squiggles" and "uglies," i.e., something that squiggles in the ugliest of ways.
This was taken from Jeremy Hunsinger's website at: http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/
Evidently, science as Jeremy understands it, is properly described by crafting words of his own making. In my judgment, it suffers from a di-flucass of the ugang and is further compackliated by a clogged zortch.
Reid
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Reid, Perhaps a different venue, one where the world's experts on flaming and trolling aren't among us, would be more appropriate for such a criticism. Drew Ross Visiting Research Fellow Oxford University, OUDES
Perhaps what Reid was saying is this: "Although exposed to terms like axiology and praxis--as any social scientist has been over the last few decades, whether wittingly or no--those in my own field(s) tend to treat these ideas superficially and uncritically. I wonder whether Jeremy or others might be willing to provide some good entry points to the idea of transdisciplinarity for someone who does not have a significant background in, say, cultural studies or STS."
actually, I think that both cultural studies and STS focus on interdisciplinary/disciplinary studies, which is why i wanted to push for transdisciplinary studies. I think the best place to look for transdisciplinary studies is to grab an encyclopedia of higher education or other encyclopedia that is fairly advanced and to see if it is in there. Once you have that, and it is in a few encyclopedias, then you will have the context for the early debates on transdisciplinarity vs interdisciplinarity, with that context in hand, then you might look at the transformation of institutions to include the idea of transdisciplinarity in the 70's, along with the Guattari and Vilar report to the U.N. on the topic, that report was 1992 and can be found: http://web.archive.org/web/20020612053100/http://www.fnet.fr/ASLB/ ARCHIVES/TEXTES/GUATTARI-transdicip.html That report, I think, reopened much of the current debate in Europe and Australia in regards to transdisciplinarity. What launched my interest and my reframing of some of my ideas into transdisciplinarity was the Gary Genosko's book 'Félix Guattari: an aberrant introduction' along with Guattari's works Chaosmosis and Three Ecologies. Other works that I'd recommend are : http://www.interdisciplines.org/interdisciplinarity/papers/5 http://www.btgjapan.org/dial_01.html http://epl.scu.edu:16080/~gbowker/elusive.pdf Other works can be found in other field, such as the fields that I mentioned in the description of the Transdisciplinary Studies book series. Hope that helps (I realize that transdisciplinary studies is actually not the topic of air-l, so I'll leave it at this) Jeremy Hunsinger School of Library and Information Science Pratt Institute () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.aoir.org The Association of Internet Researchers http://www.stswiki.org/ stswiki http://cfp.learning-inquiry.info/ LI-the journal http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/ Transdisciplinary Studies:the book series
I'll second that, uh, sentiment. Maybe "Unclog the zortch!" could be the new association motto. :) -eg
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Dr. W. Reid Cornwell Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:22 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Ellis and Jeremy
In an attempt to send the following paragraph to my editor (for translation) my spell checker had a psychotic episode.
"Transdisciplinary Studies is an internationally oriented book series created to generate new theories and practices to extricate transdisciplinary research from the confining discourses of traditional disciplinarities. Within transdisciplinary domains, this series will publish empirically grounded, theoretically sound work seeking to identify and solve global problems that conventional disciplinary perspectives cannot capture. Transdisciplinary Studies seeks to accentuate those aspects of scholarly research which cut across todays learned disciplines in an effort to define new axiologies and forms of praxis. This series intends to promote a new appreciation for transdisciplinary research to audiences that are seeking ways of understanding complex, global problems that many now realize disciplinary perspectives cannot fully address. Scholars, policy makers, educators and researchers working to address issues in technology studies, public finance, discourse studies, professional ethics, political analysis, learning, ecological systems, modern medicine, and other fields clearly are ready to begin investing in transdisciplinary models of research. It is for those many different audiences in these diverse fields that we hope to reach, not merely with topical research, but also through considering new epistemic and ontological foundations for of transdisciplinary research."
This was taken from Jeremy Hunsinger's website at: http://transdisciplinarystudies.tmttlt.com/
Evidently, science as Jeremy understands it, is properly described by crafting words of his own making. In my judgment, it suffers from a di-flucass of the ugang and is further compackliated by a clogged zortch.
Reid
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Dr. W. Reid Cornwell The Center For Internet Research P.O. Box 6369 Breckenridge, CO
720.212.0719 (phone) 970.485.5109 (mobile) <mailto:wrc@tcfir.org> wrc@tcfir.org http://tcfir.org
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yes, i realize that some people prefer things to be simple. Personally, I prefer precision and clarity, though. We don't really have an association motto... and if we did... I'd support "we're all in this together', where 'this' takes many possible meanings. On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Ellis Godard wrote:
I'll second that, uh, sentiment. Maybe "Unclog the zortch!" could be the new association motto. :)
-eg
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yes, i realize that some people prefer things to be simple. Personally, I prefer precision and clarity, though. We don't really have an association motto... and if we did... I'd support "we're all in this together', where 'this' takes many possible meanings.
Perhaps universities should start revoking the Ph.Ds of folks who won't use a dictionary when they read. Probably more than a little unpopular, but... effective. You didn't use any words that aren't in fairly common academic circulation, so I don't really see what the problem could have been. --elijah
On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:36 PM, Ellis Godard wrote:
I'll second that, uh, sentiment. Maybe "Unclog the zortch!" could be the new association motto. :)
-eg
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