Re: [Air-l] social network migration
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user. /Gail --------------------------------------- Gail D. Taylor, M.Ed. University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Human Resource Education Ph.D. Student Educational Psychology Teaching Assistant Library & Information Science Research Assistant "Technology enables man to gain control over everything except technology." -- Unknown
Hear, hear! This is spot-on, in my opinion. However I must add that aggregators /will /be developed and employed, despite the glaring drawbacks Gail's mentioned, but that this process of aggregation will be countered with a continued profusion of new social networking sites. A fundamental attribute of these SNSs is that they are a "network," and as such cannot possibly accommodate "the whole." Remember the fuss when Facebook opened up, first to high school students, then the public? This was obviously to counter the growing userbase of MySpace, but Facebook users cherished its stonewalled nature, for whatever reason (I don't see a need to get into that right now; I'm sure the listserv has addressed it sufficiently in other contexts). I know my point is primarily semantic here, but I find it very important in terms of system theory. The network, especially in this context, is a very abstract concept, but nonetheless I do not think its aspect of being limited in applicability and diffusion can be altered; even if it could, I do not think the population or userbase of these SNSs would placidly accept the "homogenization," as Gail so strongly put it. -Conor 'Gail Taylor wrote:
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user.
/Gail
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The early data (about 200 respondents from 30+ countries) I've got in a survey underway looking at friending on Last.fm suggests that there are important differences in how people view their friends in different social network sites and what information they want to share. This does not seem to be site-specific so much as person-specific (for instance, while one person may say "I know all my MySpace friends f2f but will friend anyone on Last.fm," others will say the opposite.) There are also differences in what is even perceived as a social networking site in the first place. To my surprise, a number of people have commented in the last.fm forums in response to my survey that they never thought of Last.fm as a social networking site because of its central focus on music. From a definitional perspective, however, it has all the hallmarks of a social networking site (i.e. personal profile + friends list visible to others). At the same time, I think the proliferation of these sites is increasingly problematic. I see the solution as involving at least in part the ability to import and export things from one site to another without reentry. So, for instance, I think it's a huge step forward that Facebook applications now let people import information from other social network sites (Flickr, Last.fm...) into FB. Though, as yet, the reverse is not happening.
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user.
/Gail
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That's why I'd argue for data portability, not aggregation. Allow my to choose my own context for which to share my personal information. If I tire of the culture at Facebook, I should be able to easily port my profile to another site. No? On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:23 PM, 'Gail Taylor wrote:
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user.
/Gail
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Data portability, yes. But in the ideal I'd prefer a version where I had all the info on a site *within my own purview* or at least open source and community-owned (vs. a site owned by others such as FB, NewsCorp., you name it) and could port it out to other sites in pieces at will. Wholesale taking one's profile elsewhere doesn't fix the problem of wanting to maintain differentiated presences on multiple sites. Though we tend to conduct our studies in either generic ('do you use social networking sites? yes or no') or site-specific ('what's happening on myspace?') ways, many people's experience is neither generic nor site-specific.
That's why I'd argue for data portability, not aggregation. Allow my to choose my own context for which to share my personal information. If I tire of the culture at Facebook, I should be able to easily port my profile to another site.
No?
On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:23 PM, 'Gail Taylor wrote:
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user.
/Gail
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I think that data portability would lead to aggregation and homogenization in the sense Gail was talking about. The mere fact that each site demands that a user reenter fundamental facts when signing up gives the opportunity--and perhaps even increases the likelihood--of the user designing different personae for each site. It's this diverse part of SNS that is so appealing to a lot of researchers, I think. For some reason, this aspect seems "new" and unique to technology to a lot of researchers; like this doesn't happen in face-to-face interactions, for instance. On this subject, can anyone point me to research which does draw parallels between the two paradigms? -Conor Michael Zimmer wrote:
That's why I'd argue for data portability, not aggregation. Allow my to choose my own context for which to share my personal information. If I tire of the culture at Facebook, I should be able to easily port my profile to another site.
No?
On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:23 PM, 'Gail Taylor wrote:
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user.
/Gail
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--- Conor Schaefer <conor.schaefer@gmail.com> wrote:
For some reason, this aspect seems "new" and unique to technology to a
Conor - I think this is well explored in the personal communication literature that covers role play, identity theory and so on. I certainly put on a different 'face' for each role I play - work, home, etc. This is from a former post, the following is their abstract and references on the topic of computer identity. I believe that multiple computer identities are assumed to be fairly normal in the CMC environment. Bishop-Clark, C., B. Beth Dietz-Uhler, et al. (2003). The Formation of and Adherence to a Self-Disclosure Norm in a Computer-Mediated Setting. Social Psychology Dept. at Miami University located in Oxford, OH, Miami University, Ohio. One of the hallmarks of communication on the Internet is the ease with which users self-disclose (Wallace, 1999). In Internet chats and on-line discussion boards, Internet users reveal a good deal of personal information about themselves, typically with positive consequences (McKenna & Bargh, 1998). In a recent investigation of self-disclosure in computer-mediated communication (CMC) settings, Joinson (2001) found that participants disclosed more personal information in CMC than face-to-face settings, and did so under conditions of high private self-awareness and low public self-awareness. However, it may be possible to explain those results using the Social Identity Deindivuation Model (SIDE) of norm formation (Postmes, Spears, & Lea, 2000), which argues that norms emerge in groups through referent informational influence (Turner, 1982). The present studies tests whether norms of self-disclosure emerge and whether these norms are adhered to in a CMC setting. Procedure Students (n = 8) in an online Introductory Psychology course participated in an asynchronous on-line discussion as part of the course requirements. Students were not anonymous and had never met face-to-face. The topic of discussion was the stigma of mental illness. Transcripts of the communication were coded for number of self-disclosing (e.g., I am manic-depressive) entries. Also coded were the number of entries supportive of self-disclosing (e.g., It must be tough being manic-depressive) and non-self-disclosing statements (e.g., I agree that the mentally ill are stigmatized), to assess the strength of conformity to a norm of self-disclosure. Results There were 298 entries, of which 6.4% were self-disclosures, 1.7% were supportive of prior self-disclosures, and 4.7% were supportive of non-self-disclosing statements. Correlational analyses indicated that there were more self-disclosing posts over time (r (296) = .22, p < .001), more self-disclosing supportive posts over time (r (296) = .12, p < .05), and less non-self-disclosing supportive statements over time (r (296) = -.14, p < 02). In an ANOVA examining the effects of time (divided into four periods) on the ratio of self-disclosing posts (to total number of posts), results indicated significant effects of time on self-disclosing posts (p < .05), self-disclosing supportive posts (p < .05), and non-self-disclosing supportive posts (p < .05). Discussion Results provide support for the SIDE model of norm formation. A norm of self-disclosure emerged and was reinforced by more supportive feedback for self-disclosing than non-self-disclosing statements. Once a norm of self-disclosure developed, there was pressure to conform. References Joinson, A. N. (2000). Self-disclosure in computer-mediated communication: The role of self-awareness and visual anonymity. European Journal of Social Psychology, 31, 177-192. McKenna, K. Y. A. & Bargh, J. (1998). Coming out in the age of the Internet: Identity demarginalization through virtual group participation. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 75, 681-694. Postmes, T., Spears, R., & Lea, M. (2000). The formation of group norms in computer- mediated communication. Human Communication Research, 26, 341-371. Turner, J. C. (1982). Towards a cognitive redefinition of the group. In H. Tajfel (Ed.), Social identity and intergroup relations (pp. 15-40). Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. Wallace, P. (1999). The psychology of the Internet. New York, NY: Cambridge University Press.
lot of researchers; like this doesn't happen in face-to-face interactions, for instance. On this subject, can anyone point me to research which does draw parallels between the two paradigms?
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Returning to this discussion, Google is (surprise) working on a social networking platform called Socialstream, which would "draw content from a variety of sources. Socialstream would be based on a unified social network (USN), a single network that provides social data to other sites as a service. A service model allows many social networks to be linked together, letting them share both content and the nature of the relationships of the people who use them." Not sure what will come of this... Research site: http://www.hcii.cs.cmu.edu/M-HCI/2006/ SocialstreamProject/index.php Demo video: http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=-6610704975433050156&hl=en Commentary: http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2007/07/googles-social- networking-projects.html ----- Michael Zimmer, PhD Microsoft Fellow, Information Society Project, Yale Law School e: michael.zimmer@nyu.edu w: http://michaelzimmer.org On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:10 PM, Conor Schaefer wrote:
I think that data portability would lead to aggregation and homogenization in the sense Gail was talking about. The mere fact that each site demands that a user reenter fundamental facts when signing up gives the opportunity--and perhaps even increases the likelihood-- of the user designing different personae for each site. It's this diverse part of SNS that is so appealing to a lot of researchers, I think.
For some reason, this aspect seems "new" and unique to technology to a lot of researchers; like this doesn't happen in face-to-face interactions, for instance. On this subject, can anyone point me to research which does draw parallels between the two paradigms?
-Conor
Michael Zimmer wrote:
That's why I'd argue for data portability, not aggregation. Allow my to choose my own context for which to share my personal information. If I tire of the culture at Facebook, I should be able to easily port my profile to another site.
No?
On Jul 2, 2007, at 4:23 PM, 'Gail Taylor wrote:
I am hesitant to say 'yes' to the suggestion there should be a way to aggregate social networking sites. I think it would lead to homogenization of practices for the user, who is currently having a 'multi-cultural' experience interacting with others in various online spaces. For example, the culture of Facebook is similar, but also different, than what one might expect hanging out in MySpace or other product that enables networking with others. This approach to aggregating processes is also one that decontextualizes information that is extracted from other souces, as opposed to allowing the user to interact in an environment where the information would be contextualized. There would be advantages and drawbacks to this approach. Depending on the knowledge and expertise of the people developing the aggregator, the program could be great or not so great for the end user.
/Gail
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