Re: [Air-L] copyediting question: capitalize www?
As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web.... Cheers Sue Malta P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au www.swin.edu.au/ijets
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"? Best, --J _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Hi Everyone, I'm starting to get lots of replies, which I appreciate, and I'm happy to hear more people weigh in, but I'll take the opportunity to explain my thinking on "internet." Early in their histories, most media are capitalized by journalists (eg., "Telegraph" or "Phonograph") but this usage generally falls away after some time. I am one of those people who believe that the internet is best thought of as one more of a series of communication technologies that are important in our lives (indeed one of the arguments of the book I'm copyediting effectively de-exceptionalizes the internet). Since I don't capitalize "phonograph" or "television" or "satellite", it seems strange to capitalize "internet" which is not really a new medium anymore. OTOH, if there is another Really Good Reason to capitalize "internet," I would love to hear it. Best, --Jonathan On 2011-11-01, at 5:46 AM, Sue Malta wrote: As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web.... Cheers Sue Malta P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au<mailto:ijets@swin.edu.au> Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au<mailto:smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au> www.swin.edu.au/ijets<http://www.swin.edu.au/ijets>
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." <jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca<mailto:jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca>> 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"? Best, --J _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
The 2011 AP Stylebook recommends "Internet" and "Web" ("World Wide Web" in antiquated and not included in the Stylebook). The rationale is that these are proper names of entities, rather than generic technologies; Web becomes lower case in "website," a generic technology. ----------------------------- Amara D. Angelica Editor, KurzweilAI News kurzweilai.net -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sterne, Dr. Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 2:51 AM To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] copyediting question: capitalize www? Hi Everyone, I'm starting to get lots of replies, which I appreciate, and I'm happy to hear more people weigh in, but I'll take the opportunity to explain my thinking on "internet." Early in their histories, most media are capitalized by journalists (eg., "Telegraph" or "Phonograph") but this usage generally falls away after some time. I am one of those people who believe that the internet is best thought of as one more of a series of communication technologies that are important in our lives (indeed one of the arguments of the book I'm copyediting effectively de-exceptionalizes the internet). Since I don't capitalize "phonograph" or "television" or "satellite", it seems strange to capitalize "internet" which is not really a new medium anymore. OTOH, if there is another Really Good Reason to capitalize "internet," I would love to hear it. Best, --Jonathan On 2011-11-01, at 5:46 AM, Sue Malta wrote: As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web.... Cheers Sue Malta P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au<mailto:ijets@swin.edu.au> Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au<mailto:smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au> www.swin.edu.au/ijets<http://www.swin.edu.au/ijets>
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." <jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca<mailto:jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca>> 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"? Best, --J _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
I agree with you Jonathan, and try my hardest not to capitalise, only to be regularly told off by editors! But here's an interesting question: if Internet and WWW, then why not Cyberspace? All very inconsistent. I empathise with the small t television (and telephone) Sue _________ Sue Thomas Research Professor of New Media IOCT/Faculty of Art, Design and Humanities Clephan 1.01d, De Montfort University, The Gateway, Leicester LE1 9BH, UK +44 (0)116 207 8266 w: http://www.thewildsurmise.com Nature and Cyberspace: stories, memes and metaphors e: sue.thomas@dmu.ac.uk t: @suethomas g: +suethomas -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sterne, Dr. Sent: 01 November 2011 09:51 To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] copyediting question: capitalize www? Hi Everyone, I'm starting to get lots of replies, which I appreciate, and I'm happy to hear more people weigh in, but I'll take the opportunity to explain my thinking on "internet." Early in their histories, most media are capitalized by journalists (eg., "Telegraph" or "Phonograph") but this usage generally falls away after some time. I am one of those people who believe that the internet is best thought of as one more of a series of communication technologies that are important in our lives (indeed one of the arguments of the book I'm copyediting effectively de-exceptionalizes the internet). Since I don't capitalize "phonograph" or "television" or "satellite", it seems strange to capitalize "internet" which is not really a new medium anymore. OTOH, if there is another Really Good Reason to capitalize "internet," I would love to hear it. Best, --Jonathan On 2011-11-01, at 5:46 AM, Sue Malta wrote: As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web.... Cheers Sue Malta P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au<mailto:ijets@swin.edu.au> Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au<mailto:smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au> www.swin.edu.au/ijets<http://www.swin.edu.au/ijets>
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." <jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca<mailto:jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca>> 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"? Best, --J _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Christian is right. There are more important things to discuss. But that won't stop me here. We should all know better. Language (least of all English capitalization) does not adhere to some rational system. What shows up in print is largely shaped by a combination of popular usage (which certainly favors lower case on both) tempered by the conservative force of editors and editorial guidelines. AP only changes when there is an overwhelming balk from people (e.g., "Web site"), and will change to both "internet" and "web" eventually. I think the "World Wide" is not only inaccurate, it's no longer necessary since "web" is more frequently invoked to describe the computing arrangement and not something built by a spider, for instance. The shift to "internet" has been long-coming. E-mail fell first, then internet, next web. I wonder what the rise of participatory media has done to the influence of editors and style guides on the evolution of such conventions. I wonder whether E-mail would have remained E-mail if there had not been E-mail. Best, Alex -- // // This email is // [x] assumed public and may be blogged / forwarded. // [ ] assumed to be private, please ask before redistributing. // // Alexander C. Halavais, ciberflâneur // http://alex.halavais.net //
It's English, we have no absolute authority which dictates the language (despite what some people may think about Chicago or APA). Some countries, such as Spain and France, have some sort of institution (which I forget the name of) that is like the arbiter of language. Not that everyone follows those, but I remember a Spanish-speaking friend of mine was surprised to find out we didn't have one for English. Internet (which there is at the start of a sentence, so who knows what my preference is) is a word in transition. Commonly it used to be Internet, now more people are using internet. Given that we are still in the transition, use whichever you like. As long as we can understand you, and your editors and reviewers are happy, then I'll be quite happy with my cup of coffee at the end of a good day. -Nat. On Nov 1, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Sue Thomas wrote:
I agree with you Jonathan, and try my hardest not to capitalise, only to be regularly told off by editors! But here's an interesting question: if Internet and WWW, then why not Cyberspace?
All very inconsistent. I empathise with the small t television (and telephone)
Sue
_________ Sue Thomas Research Professor of New Media IOCT/Faculty of Art, Design and Humanities Clephan 1.01d, De Montfort University, The Gateway, Leicester LE1 9BH, UK +44 (0)116 207 8266 w: http://www.thewildsurmise.com Nature and Cyberspace: stories, memes and metaphors e: sue.thomas@dmu.ac.uk t: @suethomas g: +suethomas
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sterne, Dr. Sent: 01 November 2011 09:51 To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] copyediting question: capitalize www?
Hi Everyone,
I'm starting to get lots of replies, which I appreciate, and I'm happy to hear more people weigh in, but I'll take the opportunity to explain my thinking on "internet." Early in their histories, most media are capitalized by journalists (eg., "Telegraph" or "Phonograph") but this usage generally falls away after some time. I am one of those people who believe that the internet is best thought of as one more of a series of communication technologies that are important in our lives (indeed one of the arguments of the book I'm copyediting effectively de-exceptionalizes the internet).
Since I don't capitalize "phonograph" or "television" or "satellite", it seems strange to capitalize "internet" which is not really a new medium anymore.
OTOH, if there is another Really Good Reason to capitalize "internet," I would love to hear it.
Best, --Jonathan
On 2011-11-01, at 5:46 AM, Sue Malta wrote:
As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web....
Cheers
Sue Malta
P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au<mailto:ijets@swin.edu.au> Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au<mailto:smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au> www.swin.edu.au/ijets<http://www.swin.edu.au/ijets>
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." <jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca<mailto:jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca>> 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"?
Best, --J _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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The Internet Society, the Internet Engineering Task Force and global bodies associated with the Internet use the capital "I" to distinguish the global network from smaller internets. It is an important distinction and those who do not make it are in error. Associated Press style - the official journalistic style adopted by most news organizations - is to use Internet in reference to the global network of networks. In AP Style Web and World Wide Web are used in upper-case to distinguish from other webs. While some people and organizations like to say that Internet should be spelled lower-case as with radio, television and other communications tools, they are not recognizing the distinction as they should. Janna On 11/1/11 10:59 AM, "Nathaniel Poor" <natpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
It's English, we have no absolute authority which dictates the language (despite what some people may think about Chicago or APA). Some countries, such as Spain and France, have some sort of institution (which I forget the name of) that is like the arbiter of language. Not that everyone follows those, but I remember a Spanish-speaking friend of mine was surprised to find out we didn't have one for English.
Internet (which there is at the start of a sentence, so who knows what my preference is) is a word in transition. Commonly it used to be Internet, now more people are using internet. Given that we are still in the transition, use whichever you like. As long as we can understand you, and your editors and reviewers are happy, then I'll be quite happy with my cup of coffee at the end of a good day.
-Nat.
On Nov 1, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Sue Thomas wrote:
I agree with you Jonathan, and try my hardest not to capitalise, only to be regularly told off by editors! But here's an interesting question: if Internet and WWW, then why not Cyberspace?
All very inconsistent. I empathise with the small t television (and telephone)
Sue
_________ Sue Thomas Research Professor of New Media IOCT/Faculty of Art, Design and Humanities Clephan 1.01d, De Montfort University, The Gateway, Leicester LE1 9BH, UK +44 (0)116 207 8266 w: http://www.thewildsurmise.com Nature and Cyberspace: stories, memes and metaphors e: sue.thomas@dmu.ac.uk t: @suethomas g: +suethomas
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sterne, Dr. Sent: 01 November 2011 09:51 To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] copyediting question: capitalize www?
Hi Everyone,
I'm starting to get lots of replies, which I appreciate, and I'm happy to hear more people weigh in, but I'll take the opportunity to explain my thinking on "internet." Early in their histories, most media are capitalized by journalists (eg., "Telegraph" or "Phonograph") but this usage generally falls away after some time. I am one of those people who believe that the internet is best thought of as one more of a series of communication technologies that are important in our lives (indeed one of the arguments of the book I'm copyediting effectively de-exceptionalizes the internet).
Since I don't capitalize "phonograph" or "television" or "satellite", it seems strange to capitalize "internet" which is not really a new medium anymore.
OTOH, if there is another Really Good Reason to capitalize "internet," I would love to hear it.
Best, --Jonathan
On 2011-11-01, at 5:46 AM, Sue Malta wrote:
As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web....
Cheers
Sue Malta
P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au<mailto:ijets@swin.edu.au> Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au<mailto:smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au> www.swin.edu.au/ijets<http://www.swin.edu.au/ijets>
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." <jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca<mailto:jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca>> 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"?
Best, --J _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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It looks like in many cases the definite article "the," as in "the" internet, plays the same role as the capital "I" when people need to distinguish between the global network and smaller networks. In that case the capital I in Internet would seemingly be redundant enough that I suspect it will eventually fall away. Besides...I thought the internet crowd didn't like capitalizing things... tim laquintano
For the present the APA says to capitalize Internet: http://blog.apastyle.org/apastyle/2011/03/spelling-success-in-apa-style.html -jim parker On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Tim Laquintano <tlaquintano@gmail.com>wrote:
It looks like in many cases the definite article "the," as in "the" internet, plays the same role as the capital "I" when people need to distinguish between the global network and smaller networks. In that case the capital I in Internet would seemingly be redundant enough that I suspect it will eventually fall away. Besides...I thought the internet crowd didn't like capitalizing things...
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I'm inclined to think the capital "I" will gradually fall out of use, as it should: conceptually, we are nearly always talking about not the technical apparatus pe se, but its concomitant cultural, social, and economic aspects. That is, when we think of "internet" we're thinking of how it's populated and used, not what or where it *is* as such. Also, as we've seen with many dictionary definitions of words and their uses, colloquial understandings gradually become "official" out of necessity, anyway. For this reason I'm also inclined to think World Wide Web should remain capitalized, because that is still specific to its purpose and origins, and is a term that almost nobody on the internet actually uses.
Hey, we're a global body associated with the internet :). I don't think that AP chose to capitalize Internet to distinguish itfrom other forms of internetworking. They set the standard for thesake of standards setting, and at the time they set the standard theword was more commonly capitalized. Likewise, any standards-promulgating group is going to be bound bytheir former usage, and we should expect the ietf to be slower thanother discourse communities to change. Luckily, those who buildtechnologies name them only at their own peril. Anyone made use of a"electrical speech machine" lately? - A On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Janna Anderson <andersj@elon.edu> wrote:
The Internet Society, the Internet Engineering Task Force and global bodies associated with the Internet use the capital "I" to distinguish the global network from smaller internets. It is an important distinction and those who do not make it are in error.
Associated Press style - the official journalistic style adopted by most news organizations - is to use Internet in reference to the global network of networks. In AP Style Web and World Wide Web are used in upper-case to distinguish from other webs.
While some people and organizations like to say that Internet should be spelled lower-case as with radio, television and other communications tools, they are not recognizing the distinction as they should.
Janna
On 11/1/11 10:59 AM, "Nathaniel Poor" <natpoor@gmail.com> wrote:
It's English, we have no absolute authority which dictates the language (despite what some people may think about Chicago or APA). Some countries, such as Spain and France, have some sort of institution (which I forget the name of) that is like the arbiter of language. Not that everyone follows those, but I remember a Spanish-speaking friend of mine was surprised to find out we didn't have one for English.
Internet (which there is at the start of a sentence, so who knows what my preference is) is a word in transition. Commonly it used to be Internet, now more people are using internet. Given that we are still in the transition, use whichever you like. As long as we can understand you, and your editors and reviewers are happy, then I'll be quite happy with my cup of coffee at the end of a good day.
-Nat.
On Nov 1, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Sue Thomas wrote:
I agree with you Jonathan, and try my hardest not to capitalise, only to be regularly told off by editors! But here's an interesting question: if Internet and WWW, then why not Cyberspace?
All very inconsistent. I empathise with the small t television (and telephone)
Sue
_________ Sue Thomas Research Professor of New Media IOCT/Faculty of Art, Design and Humanities Clephan 1.01d, De Montfort University, The Gateway, Leicester LE1 9BH, UK +44 (0)116 207 8266 w: http://www.thewildsurmise.com Nature and Cyberspace: stories, memes and metaphors e: sue.thomas@dmu.ac.uk t: @suethomas g: +suethomas
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan Sterne, Dr. Sent: 01 November 2011 09:51 To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] copyediting question: capitalize www?
Hi Everyone,
I'm starting to get lots of replies, which I appreciate, and I'm happy to hear more people weigh in, but I'll take the opportunity to explain my thinking on "internet." Early in their histories, most media are capitalized by journalists (eg., "Telegraph" or "Phonograph") but this usage generally falls away after some time. I am one of those people who believe that the internet is best thought of as one more of a series of communication technologies that are important in our lives (indeed one of the arguments of the book I'm copyediting effectively de-exceptionalizes the internet).
Since I don't capitalize "phonograph" or "television" or "satellite", it seems strange to capitalize "internet" which is not really a new medium anymore.
OTOH, if there is another Really Good Reason to capitalize "internet," I would love to hear it.
Best, --Jonathan
On 2011-11-01, at 5:46 AM, Sue Malta wrote:
As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web....
Cheers
Sue Malta
P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au<mailto:ijets@swin.edu.au> Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au<mailto:smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au> www.swin.edu.au/ijets<http://www.swin.edu.au/ijets>
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." <jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca<mailto:jonathan.sterne@mcgill.ca>> 01/11/11 8:32 PM >>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"?
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Internet is a name for one specific techno-social computer-based network system, World Wide Web a name for a subpart of this network. We also capitalize our first- and sur-names, so we should definitely capitalize "Internet" and "World Wide Web". Interesting question, but there are more important problems in the world to discuss than if we should "capitalize" the word Internet, such as how the Internet is being "capitalized" by capitalist companies etc ... Best, CF -- Prof. Christian Fuchs Chair in Media and Communication Studies Department of Informatics and Media Uppsala University Kyrkogårdsgatan 10 Box 513 751 20 Uppsala Sweden christian.fuchs@im.uu.se Tel +46 (0) 18 471 1019 http://fuchs.uti.at http://www.im.uu.se NetPolitics Blog: http://fuchs.uti.at/blog Editor of tripleC: http://www.triple-c.se Book "Foundations of Critical Media and Information Studies" (Routledge 2011) Book "Internet and Society" (Paperback, Routledge 2010) Co-Editor of "Internet and Surveillance" (Routledge 2011) Am 11/1/11 10:46 AM, schrieb Sue Malta:
As part of the team that publishes the "International Journal of Emerging Techologies and Society" (iJETS), I would ALWAYS opt for a capital for Internet and the World Wide Web....
Cheers
Sue Malta
P ............................................... Sue Malta Editor / Managing Editor International Journal of Emerging Technologies and Society (iJETS) Swinburne University of Technology John Street, Hawthorn, VIC 3122 Email: ijets@swin.edu.au Or: smalta@groupwise.swin.edu.au www.swin.edu.au/ijets
"Jonathan Sterne, Dr." 01/11/11 8:32 PM>>> Hi Everyone,
Please excuse any repetition if this has been answered recently. I know that people are coming around to not capitalizing the word "internet" (this is my preference too). But what about "world wide web"?
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Sue Malta -
Sue Thomas -
Tim Laquintano