Registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now open
Dear all, We are pleased to announce, finally, that the registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now is open and can be accessed at http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/! We welcome academics, industrial associates and practitioners from all fields to participate in this exctiting conference! Ylva Hård af Segerstad and Ann-Sofie Axelsson Organizing Committee Ann-Sofie Axelsson, Ph.D. Department of Technology Management and Economics Division of Technology and Society Chalmers University of Technology SE-412 96 Gothenburg Sweden Phone: +46 31-772 11 19 Fax: +46 31-772 37 83 E-mail: annaxe@chalmers.se<BLOCKED::mailto:annaxe@chalmers.se> Web(TinyURL): http://tinyurl.com/yw8n9s
For some reason the url in the email announcement includes the "!" but it should not. The url is http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/ The registration fees seem very high for this year's conference. Using current conversion rates to U.S. Dollars, and assuming a full refund of VAT (which may be an incorrect assujption): Earlybird Rates (through August 31) $265 • Student: 1980 SEK (plus 495 SEK VAT) = 2475 SEK TOTAL $244 • Student with 1-Year Membership: 1580 SEK (plus 395 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2219 SEK TOTAL $434 • Professional: 3250 SEK (plus 812.50 SEK VAT) = 4062.50 SEK TOTAL $416 • Professional with 1-Year Membership: 2750 SEK (plus 687.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 3802.50 SEK TOTAL Regular Rates (after August 31) $321 • Student: 2400 SEK (plus 600 SEK VAT) = 3000 SEK TOTAL $300 • Student with 1-Year Membership: 2000 SEK (plus 500 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2744 SEK TOTAL $488 • Professional: 3650 SEK (plus 912.50 SEK VAT) = 4562.50 SEK TOTAL $470 • Professional with 1-Year Membership: 3150 SEK (plus 787.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 4302.50 SEK TOTAL The fees do not include the banquet (at about $60 USD) and pre-conference workshops (one of which is free, the others are about $45 USD). Last year's fees are still online at http://ir10.aoir.org/?page_id=6 and were as follows for the non-earlybird registrants (I don't know what the early registration fees were off the top of my head, and they are not on that page, but I think they were around $30 or so less): • 2009-2010 Member, Professional Conference Registration - $ 325.00 • 2009-2010 Member, Student Conference Registration - $ 190.00 • Non-member Professional Conference Registration - $ 370.00 • Non-member Student Conference Registration - $ 220.00 This year's fees are significantly increased from the ones last year (and the year before that, as I recall that every effort was made to keep the fees the same), and while I am aware of currency fluctuations and the relative expense of operating a conference in some places compared with others, I am concerned particularly with the cost for students to attend the conference in Gothenburg. Furthermore, it is somewhat ironic to see this sort of increase given the conference theme, as it might cause _less_ participation and be _un_sustainable if AoIR continues to increase conference fees like this. I would also like to suggest to the executive committee that some relative stability in conference fees should be a goal so that people can budget for this conference each year and not be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, perhaps, and sometimes not) when registration fees are announced. Thanks, Steve On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Ann-Sofie Axelsson wrote:
Dear all,
We are pleased to announce, finally, that the registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now is open and can be accessed at http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/!
We welcome academics, industrial associates and practitioners from all fields to participate in this exctiting conference! Ylva Hård af Segerstad and Ann-Sofie Axelsson Organizing Committee
Ann-Sofie Axelsson, Ph.D. Department of Technology Management and Economics Division of Technology and Society Chalmers University of Technology SE-412 96 Gothenburg Sweden
Phone: +46 31-772 11 19 Fax: +46 31-772 37 83
E-mail: annaxe@chalmers.se<BLOCKED::mailto:annaxe@chalmers.se> Web(TinyURL): http://tinyurl.com/yw8n9s
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Dear all, I'm in complete sympathy with Steve's call that we keep costs in line and let folks allow for planning ahead, as well as keeping costs as reasonable as possible for graduate students (and faculty too). Here are a few of the things that we kept foremost in our minds as we planned this conference: 1. AoIR is international and we have a commitment to serving all of our members. Part of that includes moving our conference around, to offer different groups the opportunity to attend more easily in certain years. 2. As part of that commitment, we knew that Sweden would be expensive, but we felt we needed to go back to Europe after holding the conference in the US in 2009. Due in part to our great success in Milwaukee (with a huge thank you to Steve for that), we are able to help finance this conference. Even with the higher registration fees, we will most likely be incurring a loss as an organization to support this conference. 3. A smaller matter, but lunches for the three days of the conference are included in this year's registration cost (they weren't included in Milwaukee). We included them so that attendees didn't have to run out during a brief lunch break to find food, and could more easily continue the conversations that had started during the day. Thus, some of the cost of purchasing meals on your own is offset by that. 4. We are still looking for sites for 2012 and 2013! If maintaining certain cost levels is important, please consider helping us host a conference and work towards that goal. We can only go where we are invited. All the best, Mia On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Steve Jones <sjones@uic.edu> wrote:
For some reason the url in the email announcement includes the "!" but it should not. The url is http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/
The registration fees seem very high for this year's conference. Using current conversion rates to U.S. Dollars, and assuming a full refund of VAT (which may be an incorrect assujption):
Earlybird Rates (through August 31)
$265 • Student: 1980 SEK (plus 495 SEK VAT) = 2475 SEK TOTAL $244 • Student with 1-Year Membership: 1580 SEK (plus 395 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2219 SEK TOTAL $434 • Professional: 3250 SEK (plus 812.50 SEK VAT) = 4062.50 SEK TOTAL $416 • Professional with 1-Year Membership: 2750 SEK (plus 687.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 3802.50 SEK TOTAL
Regular Rates (after August 31)
$321 • Student: 2400 SEK (plus 600 SEK VAT) = 3000 SEK TOTAL $300 • Student with 1-Year Membership: 2000 SEK (plus 500 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2744 SEK TOTAL $488 • Professional: 3650 SEK (plus 912.50 SEK VAT) = 4562.50 SEK TOTAL $470 • Professional with 1-Year Membership: 3150 SEK (plus 787.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 4302.50 SEK TOTAL
The fees do not include the banquet (at about $60 USD) and pre-conference workshops (one of which is free, the others are about $45 USD).
Last year's fees are still online at http://ir10.aoir.org/?page_id=6 and were as follows for the non-earlybird registrants (I don't know what the early registration fees were off the top of my head, and they are not on that page, but I think they were around $30 or so less):
• 2009-2010 Member, Professional Conference Registration - $ 325.00 • 2009-2010 Member, Student Conference Registration - $ 190.00 • Non-member Professional Conference Registration - $ 370.00 • Non-member Student Conference Registration - $ 220.00
This year's fees are significantly increased from the ones last year (and the year before that, as I recall that every effort was made to keep the fees the same), and while I am aware of currency fluctuations and the relative expense of operating a conference in some places compared with others, I am concerned particularly with the cost for students to attend the conference in Gothenburg. Furthermore, it is somewhat ironic to see this sort of increase given the conference theme, as it might cause _less_ participation and be _un_sustainable if AoIR continues to increase conference fees like this. I would also like to suggest to the executive committee that some relative stability in conference fees should be a goal so that people can budget for this conference each year and not be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, perhaps, and sometimes not) when registration fees are announced.
Thanks,
Steve
On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Ann-Sofie Axelsson wrote:
Dear all,
We are pleased to announce, finally, that the registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now is open and can be accessed at http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/!
We welcome academics, industrial associates and practitioners from all fields to participate in this exctiting conference! Ylva Hård af Segerstad and Ann-Sofie Axelsson Organizing Committee
Ann-Sofie Axelsson, Ph.D. Department of Technology Management and Economics Division of Technology and Society Chalmers University of Technology SE-412 96 Gothenburg Sweden
Phone: +46 31-772 11 19 Fax: +46 31-772 37 83
E-mail: annaxe@chalmers.se<BLOCKED::mailto:annaxe@chalmers.se> Web(TinyURL): http://tinyurl.com/yw8n9s
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Hi everyone! I'm glad Steve brought this up. Although I understand all points Mia is arguing, the reality is that the cost of things in Sweden, plus fees, plus hotel, plus long distance air ticket is becoming prohibitive for us from South America (and I believe, also for our colleagues who come from other very far countries such as Australia and New Zealand - I won't even mention students.) AOIR is growing and many of my colleagues and students in Brazil and other South American countries would love to be able to participate. However, with the growing costs, it is getting harder for everyone. Also, the problem gets worse because IR doesn't have proceedings (as a formal publication), making it even harder to get any support from our Universities/Research Agencies. So, I'd like to suggest to the Exec. Comitee of AOIR 1) to think about other policies that would help lowering the costs of future conferences for participants who come from other continents (the fee waver is one step, but still small) and 2) to think about creating formal Proceedings, which would help many of us to attend the conferences. Please, don't take this as a criticism to the Sweden conference organization. Having organizing conferences, I know it is extremely hard to get sponsors, a place and everything that is needed for something as big as IR on a small budget (sometimes you just have to elevate the fee). However, I believe it is important to point out that AOIR is supposed to be International and that perhaps, for future conferences, if not possible to lower the costs, we should think about more policies to help participants of other continents to attend. Regards, Raquel Recuero Dept. of Applied Linguistics and Communication Universidade Católica de Pelotas (UCPel) Alm Barroso, 1202 Pelotas/RS - Brazil +55 53 21288111 Steve Jones wrote:
For some reason the url in the email announcement includes the "!" but it should not. The url is http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/
The registration fees seem very high for this year's conference. Using current conversion rates to U.S. Dollars, and assuming a full refund of VAT (which may be an incorrect assujption):
Earlybird Rates (through August 31)
$265 • Student: 1980 SEK (plus 495 SEK VAT) = 2475 SEK TOTAL $244 • Student with 1-Year Membership: 1580 SEK (plus 395 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2219 SEK TOTAL $434 • Professional: 3250 SEK (plus 812.50 SEK VAT) = 4062.50 SEK TOTAL $416 • Professional with 1-Year Membership: 2750 SEK (plus 687.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 3802.50 SEK TOTAL
Regular Rates (after August 31)
$321 • Student: 2400 SEK (plus 600 SEK VAT) = 3000 SEK TOTAL $300 • Student with 1-Year Membership: 2000 SEK (plus 500 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2744 SEK TOTAL $488 • Professional: 3650 SEK (plus 912.50 SEK VAT) = 4562.50 SEK TOTAL $470 • Professional with 1-Year Membership: 3150 SEK (plus 787.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 4302.50 SEK TOTAL
The fees do not include the banquet (at about $60 USD) and pre-conference workshops (one of which is free, the others are about $45 USD).
Last year's fees are still online at http://ir10.aoir.org/?page_id=6 and were as follows for the non-earlybird registrants (I don't know what the early registration fees were off the top of my head, and they are not on that page, but I think they were around $30 or so less):
• 2009-2010 Member, Professional Conference Registration - $ 325.00 • 2009-2010 Member, Student Conference Registration - $ 190.00 • Non-member Professional Conference Registration - $ 370.00 • Non-member Student Conference Registration - $ 220.00
This year's fees are significantly increased from the ones last year (and the year before that, as I recall that every effort was made to keep the fees the same), and while I am aware of currency fluctuations and the relative expense of operating a conference in some places compared with others, I am concerned particularly with the cost for students to attend the conference in Gothenburg. Furthermore, it is somewhat ironic to see this sort of increase given the conference theme, as it might cause _less_ participation and be _un_sustainable if AoIR continues to increase conference fees like this. I would also like to suggest to the executive committee that some relative stability in conference fees should be a goal so that people can budget for this conference each year and not be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, perhaps, and sometimes not) when registration fees are announced.
Thanks,
Steve
On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Ann-Sofie Axelsson wrote:
Dear all,
We are pleased to announce, finally, that the registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now is open and can be accessed at http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/!
We welcome academics, industrial associates and practitioners from all fields to participate in this exctiting conference! Ylva Hård af Segerstad and Ann-Sofie Axelsson Organizing Committee
Ann-Sofie Axelsson, Ph.D. Department of Technology Management and Economics Division of Technology and Society Chalmers University of Technology SE-412 96 Gothenburg Sweden
Phone: +46 31-772 11 19 Fax: +46 31-772 37 83
E-mail: annaxe@chalmers.se<BLOCKED::mailto:annaxe@chalmers.se> Web(TinyURL): http://tinyurl.com/yw8n9s
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Hi everyone, in continuance to previous speakers, I have to say, I'm having doubts regarding my attendance. For me as a graduate student it is very important to attend international forums. On the other hand, my income is very low (living scholarship), my university can't afford a real financial aid (it doesn't cover even one side airfare) and of course I don't believe my contribution to the conference is that important as to be able to receive a waver (there are only 3 places). That leaves me with a huge question mark. Hotel fares are very expensive as well (I consider sharing a room to lower expenses) and I'm giving up in advance on the opportunity to attend a workshop, as I think the banquet is much more important if I want to meet people... I think my situation isn't rare and may well describe the situation of many graduates who are probably having second thoughts regarding their attendance. BTW, I have waited this European venue conference since the airfare to the US is much higher, so I didn't even send an abstract last year. Alas, as I don't presume to have any solutions, I'm merely pointing out the current state of many of us students. Anyway, I'll probably weigh the possibilities till the last days of the early registration date, as I'm sure it'll be a great opportunity for me to hear and learn. Best regards, Sharon Best Wishes, Sharon Haleva Amir, HCLT Fellow (PhD Candidate) Faculty of Law, University of Haifa, ISRAEL. -------------------------------------------------- http://weblaw.haifa.ac.il/en/research/resstudents/pages/sharonha.aspx -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Raquel Recuero Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 2:36 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now open Hi everyone! I'm glad Steve brought this up. Although I understand all points Mia is arguing, the reality is that the cost of things in Sweden, plus fees, plus hotel, plus long distance air ticket is becoming prohibitive for us from South America (and I believe, also for our colleagues who come from other very far countries such as Australia and New Zealand - I won't even mention students.) AOIR is growing and many of my colleagues and students in Brazil and other South American countries would love to be able to participate. However, with the growing costs, it is getting harder for everyone. Also, the problem gets worse because IR doesn't have proceedings (as a formal publication), making it even harder to get any support from our Universities/Research Agencies. So, I'd like to suggest to the Exec. Comitee of AOIR 1) to think about other policies that would help lowering the costs of future conferences for participants who come from other continents (the fee waver is one step, but still small) and 2) to think about creating formal Proceedings, which would help many of us to attend the conferences. Please, don't take this as a criticism to the Sweden conference organization. Having organizing conferences, I know it is extremely hard to get sponsors, a place and everything that is needed for something as big as IR on a small budget (sometimes you just have to elevate the fee). However, I believe it is important to point out that AOIR is supposed to be International and that perhaps, for future conferences, if not possible to lower the costs, we should think about more policies to help participants of other continents to attend. Regards, Raquel Recuero Dept. of Applied Linguistics and Communication Universidade Católica de Pelotas (UCPel) Alm Barroso, 1202 Pelotas/RS - Brazil +55 53 21288111 Steve Jones wrote:
For some reason the url in the email announcement includes the "!" but it should not. The url is http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/
The registration fees seem very high for this year's conference. Using current conversion rates to U.S. Dollars, and assuming a full refund of VAT (which may be an incorrect assujption):
Earlybird Rates (through August 31)
$265 Student: 1980 SEK (plus 495 SEK VAT) = 2475 SEK TOTAL $244 Student with 1-Year Membership: 1580 SEK (plus 395 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2219 SEK TOTAL $434 Professional: 3250 SEK (plus 812.50 SEK VAT) = 4062.50 SEK TOTAL $416 Professional with 1-Year Membership: 2750 SEK (plus 687.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 3802.50 SEK TOTAL
Regular Rates (after August 31)
$321 Student: 2400 SEK (plus 600 SEK VAT) = 3000 SEK TOTAL $300 Student with 1-Year Membership: 2000 SEK (plus 500 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2744 SEK TOTAL $488 Professional: 3650 SEK (plus 912.50 SEK VAT) = 4562.50 SEK TOTAL $470 Professional with 1-Year Membership: 3150 SEK (plus 787.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 4302.50 SEK TOTAL
The fees do not include the banquet (at about $60 USD) and pre-conference workshops (one of which is free, the others are about $45 USD).
Last year's fees are still online at http://ir10.aoir.org/?page_id=6 and were as follows for the non-earlybird registrants (I don't know what the early registration fees were off the top of my head, and they are not on that page, but I think they were around $30 or so less):
2009-2010 Member, Professional Conference Registration - $ 325.00 2009-2010 Member, Student Conference Registration - $ 190.00 Non-member Professional Conference Registration - $ 370.00 Non-member Student Conference Registration - $ 220.00
This year's fees are significantly increased from the ones last year (and the year before that, as I recall that every effort was made to keep the fees the same), and while I am aware of currency fluctuations and the relative expense of operating a conference in some places compared with others, I am concerned particularly with the cost for students to attend the conference in Gothenburg. Furthermore, it is somewhat ironic to see this sort of increase given the conference theme, as it might cause _less_ participation and be _un_sustainable if AoIR continues to increase conference fees like this. I would also like to suggest to the executive committee that some relative stability in conference fees should be a goal so that people can budget for this conference each year and not be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, perhaps, and sometimes not) when registration fees are announced.
Thanks,
Steve
On Jul 9, 2010, at 1:53 AM, Ann-Sofie Axelsson wrote:
Dear all,
We are pleased to announce, finally, that the registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now is open and can be accessed at http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/!
We welcome academics, industrial associates and practitioners from all fields to participate in this exctiting conference! Ylva Hård af Segerstad and Ann-Sofie Axelsson Organizing Committee
Ann-Sofie Axelsson, Ph.D. Department of Technology Management and Economics Division of Technology and Society Chalmers University of Technology SE-412 96 Gothenburg Sweden
Phone: +46 31-772 11 19 Fax: +46 31-772 37 83
E-mail: annaxe@chalmers.se<BLOCKED::mailto:annaxe@chalmers.se> Web(TinyURL): http://tinyurl.com/yw8n9s
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Dear all I appreciate the concern some, or even many, of us have about the fee level. I wanted to add two things to the debate: first, as someone who has spent his entire academic life flying from the furthest reaches of the southern hemisphere to Europe and the UK, I have always felt that the airfare and hotel costs are far more of an issue than the conference fee cost. For example, for me to come to Sweden would cost in the order of USD$2500 for airfare and hotel. So, what the conference costs probably doesn't matter to me since the differernce between a low or high fee is going to be no more than $200 and thus less than 10% of the overall cost. second, local situations are always different and significantly affect prices. I have no idea what they are in Sweden (though suspect the tax rate throughout the country might have an effect), but in Brisbane, for example, the way that the hotel we held the conference at funded its venue hire meant some extra costs, but at the advantage of not having to sell a set number of hotel rooms (more cost, less risk). Of course, it could also be argued that holding the conference in Sweden is going to help a lot of northern European grad students and less well funded academics attend than if, say, it was held in the USA. This certainly was the reason that the conference was held in Brisbane a few years ago. It's a tricky issue. Dr Matthew Allen Associate Professor and Head of Department, Internet Studies School of Media, Culture and Creative Arts Curtin University of Technology, CRICOS 00301J Australia m.allen@curtin.edu.au http://netcrit.net <http://netcrit.net/> @netcrit +61 8 92663511 (v) +61 8 9266 3166 (f) Australian Learning and Teaching Council Fellow
I want to share what I learned when I booked the hotel for the conference in Sweden. The conference website showed that most of the hotels were already booked on the Saturday night, the final night of the conference, which will make for some tricky moving on that day. However, I found that I was able to book one of the hotels, Hotel Gothia Towers, for the five nights (I want to attend a pre-conference and need to stay Saturday night to fly back to New York on Sunday) directly through the hotel, not the conference booking service, for much less than the conference booking service was offering. I am mentioning this since there may be better deals to be had booking directly, rather than through the package rate. Granted, I booked an economy room instead of the standard room, but it is just me and I do not expect to use the hotel much during the stay. Not sure if there were any advantages using the conference booking service or not, but it appears it is just for the hotel. Hope some people may find this useful. ----- Jeffrey Keefer j.keefer@lancaster.ac.uk Blog: http://silenceandvoice.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/JeffreyKeefer Website: http://www.jeffreykeefer.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Allen [mailto:M.Allen@exchange.curtin.edu.au] Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:25 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Registration for Internet Research 11.0: Sustainability, Participation, Action, Gothenburg, Sweden, October 21-23, 2010 now open Dear all I appreciate the concern some, or even many, of us have about the fee level. I wanted to add two things to the debate: first, as someone who has spent his entire academic life flying from the furthest reaches of the southern hemisphere to Europe and the UK, I have always felt that the airfare and hotel costs are far more of an issue than the conference fee cost. For example, for me to come to Sweden would cost in the order of USD$2500 for airfare and hotel. So, what the conference costs probably doesn't matter to me since the differernce between a low or high fee is going to be no more than $200 and thus less than 10% of the overall cost. second, local situations are always different and significantly affect prices. I have no idea what they are in Sweden (though suspect the tax rate throughout the country might have an effect), but in Brisbane, for example, the way that the hotel we held the conference at funded its venue hire meant some extra costs, but at the advantage of not having to sell a set number of hotel rooms (more cost, less risk). Of course, it could also be argued that holding the conference in Sweden is going to help a lot of northern European grad students and less well funded academics attend than if, say, it was held in the USA. This certainly was the reason that the conference was held in Brisbane a few years ago. It's a tricky issue. Dr Matthew Allen Associate Professor and Head of Department, Internet Studies School of Media, Culture and Creative Arts Curtin University of Technology, CRICOS 00301J Australia m.allen@curtin.edu.au http://netcrit.net <http://netcrit.net/> @netcrit +61 8 92663511 (v) +61 8 9266 3166 (f) Australian Learning and Teaching Council Fellow _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
My observation is entirely pragmatic, which is that I hope there is some additional information available regarding VAT refunds, or else the cost of registration really does seem to be prohibitive. The instructions on VAT linked from the site indicate that refunds are available to "entrepreneurs" whose business is sited outside the EU zone, and the refund requires a "certificate from a competent authority" showing that the applicant is such an entrepreneur. I frankly have no idea where one would go for such a certificate, and doubt that the majority (if indeed any) of us would qualify for one if we knew where to apply. Perhaps there is something more to the refund process than meets the eye, in which case I hope the organizers will share that with us. Regards, DLB Dan L. Burk Chancellor's Professor of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
Steve Jones wrote:
For some reason the url in the email announcement includes the "!" but it should not. The url is http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/
The registration fees seem very high for this year's conference. Using current conversion rates to U.S. Dollars, and assuming a full refund of VAT (which may be an incorrect assujption):
Earlybird Rates (through August 31)
$265 Student: 1980 SEK (plus 495 SEK VAT) = 2475 SEK TOTAL $244 Student with 1-Year Membership: 1580 SEK (plus 395 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2219 SEK TOTAL $434 Professional: 3250 SEK (plus 812.50 SEK VAT) = 4062.50 SEK TOTAL $416 Professional with 1-Year Membership: 2750 SEK (plus 687.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 3802.50 SEK TOTAL
Regular Rates (after August 31)
$321 Student: 2400 SEK (plus 600 SEK VAT) = 3000 SEK TOTAL $300 Student with 1-Year Membership: 2000 SEK (plus 500 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2744 SEK TOTAL $488 Professional: 3650 SEK (plus 912.50 SEK VAT) = 4562.50 SEK TOTAL $470 Professional with 1-Year Membership: 3150 SEK (plus 787.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 4302.50 SEK TOTAL
The fees do not include the banquet (at about $60 USD) and pre-conference workshops (one of which is free, the others are about $45 USD).
Last year's fees are still online at http://ir10.aoir.org/?page_id=6 and were as follows for the non-earlybird registrants (I don't know what the early registration fees were off the top of my head, and they are not on that page, but I think they were around $30 or so less):
2009-2010 Member, Professional Conference Registration - $ 325.00 2009-2010 Member, Student Conference Registration - $ 190.00 Non-member Professional Conference Registration - $ 370.00 Non-member Student Conference Registration - $ 220.00
This year's fees are significantly increased from the ones last year (and the year before that, as I recall that every effort was made to keep the fees the same), and while I am aware of currency fluctuations and the relative expense of operating a conference in some places compared with others, I am concerned particularly with the cost for students to attend the conference in Gothenburg. Furthermore, it is somewhat ironic to see this sort of increase given the conference theme, as it might cause _less_ participation and be _un_sustainable if AoIR continues to increase conference fees like this. I would also like to suggest to the executive committee that some relative stability in conference fees should be a goal so that people can budget for this conference each year and not be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, perhaps, and sometimes not) when registration fees are announced.
Thanks,
Steve
Friends,
From a person living in Sweden, and Gothenburg, I know that there are alternatives to hotels. You can find quite many hostels in and around Gothenburg. In Swedish these are called "vandrarhem". Unfortunately the AoIR webpage is down at the moment so I don't know how these have been linked. By here are a few hostels:
http://www.mastenvandrarhem.com/ http://www.sov.nu/ http://www.hostel-gothenburg.com/ http://www.linnehostel.com/ http://www.minihotel.se/ ...and here's a site where you can book hostels around Sweden http://www.bokavandrarhem.com/europa/sverige/goteborg.html ...and a map with many of the hostels marked http://kartor.eniro.se/m/peuew If you have ANY questions about Gothenburg and Sweden, don't hesitate to mail me. From one AoIR to another. Peter Zackariasson, Ph.D. Assistant Professor Gothenburg Research Institute University of Gothenburg School of Business, Economics and Law P.O. Box 603 SE 405 30 Gothenburg Sweden Phone +46 31 786 53 88 Mobile +46 70 719 71 71 Web www.zackariasson.com Latest publications: Virtual identities and market segmentation in marketing in and through Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOGs). Services Marketing Quarterly, 31(3). Paradigm Shifts in the Video Game Industry. Competitiveness Review, 20(2). Cyberkapitalism, om konsten att tjäna pengar på att döda drakar, stjäla vapen och dansa naken i virtuella världar. Stockholm: Kalla Kulor förlag. On 2010-07-12 10.21, "Dan L. Burk" <dburk@uci.edu> wrote:
My observation is entirely pragmatic, which is that I hope there is some additional information available regarding VAT refunds, or else the cost of registration really does seem to be prohibitive.
The instructions on VAT linked from the site indicate that refunds are available to "entrepreneurs" whose business is sited outside the EU zone, and the refund requires a "certificate from a competent authority" showing that the applicant is such an entrepreneur.
I frankly have no idea where one would go for such a certificate, and doubt that the majority (if indeed any) of us would qualify for one if we knew where to apply. Perhaps there is something more to the refund process than meets the eye, in which case I hope the organizers will share that with us.
Regards, DLB
Dan L. Burk Chancellor's Professor of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
Steve Jones wrote:
For some reason the url in the email announcement includes the "!" but it should not. The url is http://ir11.aoir.org/registration-3/
The registration fees seem very high for this year's conference. Using current conversion rates to U.S. Dollars, and assuming a full refund of VAT (which may be an incorrect assujption):
Earlybird Rates (through August 31)
$265 Student: 1980 SEK (plus 495 SEK VAT) = 2475 SEK TOTAL $244 Student with 1-Year Membership: 1580 SEK (plus 395 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2219 SEK TOTAL $434 Professional: 3250 SEK (plus 812.50 SEK VAT) = 4062.50 SEK TOTAL $416 Professional with 1-Year Membership: 2750 SEK (plus 687.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 3802.50 SEK TOTAL
Regular Rates (after August 31)
$321 Student: 2400 SEK (plus 600 SEK VAT) = 3000 SEK TOTAL $300 Student with 1-Year Membership: 2000 SEK (plus 500 SEK VAT), with student membership (244 SEK) = 2744 SEK TOTAL $488 Professional: 3650 SEK (plus 912.50 SEK VAT) = 4562.50 SEK TOTAL $470 Professional with 1-Year Membership: 3150 SEK (plus 787.50 SEK VAT), with professional membership (365 SEK) = 4302.50 SEK TOTAL
The fees do not include the banquet (at about $60 USD) and pre-conference workshops (one of which is free, the others are about $45 USD).
Last year's fees are still online at http://ir10.aoir.org/?page_id=6 and were as follows for the non-earlybird registrants (I don't know what the early registration fees were off the top of my head, and they are not on that page, but I think they were around $30 or so less):
2009-2010 Member, Professional Conference Registration - $ 325.00 2009-2010 Member, Student Conference Registration - $ 190.00 Non-member Professional Conference Registration - $ 370.00 Non-member Student Conference Registration - $ 220.00
This year's fees are significantly increased from the ones last year (and the year before that, as I recall that every effort was made to keep the fees the same), and while I am aware of currency fluctuations and the relative expense of operating a conference in some places compared with others, I am concerned particularly with the cost for students to attend the conference in Gothenburg. Furthermore, it is somewhat ironic to see this sort of increase given the conference theme, as it might cause _less_ participation and be _un_sustainable if AoIR continues to increase conference fees like this. I would also like to suggest to the executive committee that some relative stability in conference fees should be a goal so that people can budget for this conference each year and not be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, perhaps, and sometimes not) when registration fees are announced.
Thanks,
Steve
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Dear AoIR colleagues: Due to Swedish law, conveners of conferences in Sweden are required to charge a 25% VAT on registration fees and related charges. AoIR has hired Deloitte to set up our official VAT account, and facilitate collection, reporting, and transfer of the VAT fees to the Swedish tax authority. Over the past several weeks, we have consulted with Deloitte, and the Swedish tax authority directly, to get a better understanding of how VAT charges might be refundable to non-Swedish citizens. As Dan Burk has noted, there is ambiguity regarding the language used on the various VAT documents provided. Although there still remains some lack of clarity, it appears that it will be very difficult for *individuals* to recover the VAT. The Swedish tax authority appears to consider tax recoverable only by businesses ("entrepreneurs") who are collecting VAT (or the equivalent) in their home countries, and can demonstrate that they are authorized to do so. Unfortunately, neither myself nor AoIR can provide specific tax advice. If your institution is paying your registration and related VAT fees, I'd advise you direct your business office to the documents and links provided on the IR11 website. If you are paying out of your own pocket, your options. unfortunately, might be more limited. -Michael Zimmer Treasurer, AoIR -- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies (Interim Undergraduate Program Director) Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org On Jul 12, 2010, at 3:21 AM, Dan L. Burk wrote:
My observation is entirely pragmatic, which is that I hope there is some additional information available regarding VAT refunds, or else the cost of registration really does seem to be prohibitive.
The instructions on VAT linked from the site indicate that refunds are available to "entrepreneurs" whose business is sited outside the EU zone, and the refund requires a "certificate from a competent authority" showing that the applicant is such an entrepreneur.
I frankly have no idea where one would go for such a certificate, and doubt that the majority (if indeed any) of us would qualify for one if we knew where to apply. Perhaps there is something more to the refund process than meets the eye, in which case I hope the organizers will share that with us.
Regards, DLB
Dan L. Burk Chancellor's Professor of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
participants (10)
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Ann-Sofie Axelsson -
Dan L. Burk -
Jeffrey Keefer -
Matthew Allen -
Mia Consalvo -
Michael Zimmer -
Peter Zackariasson -
Raquel Recuero -
Sharon Haleva Amir -
Steve Jones