Re: [Air-L] TorontoStar: Facebook : The New Study Hall For TheWired Generation? Perhaps Not [:-(
These types of stories piss me off. He isn't facing charges of academic misconduct for helping run an online chemistry study group via Facebook! He is facing expulsion because he facilitated the swapping of tips on homework questions that counted for 10 per cent of the final mark! He could have (and many do) run a Facebook study group that does not involve colluding on the answers and been applauded. Marj Dr Marjorie Kibby, Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia Marj.Kibby@newcastle.edu.au +61 2 49216604
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Friends/ Disturbing, Very Disturbing ... [:-( /Gerry Student faces Facebook consequences Freshman hit with 147 academic charges for online study network at Ryerson University Ryerson student Chris Avenir is facing expulsion for taking part in a Facebook study group for one of his engineering courses.
<<These types of stories piss me off. He isn't facing charges of academic misconduct for helping run an online chemistry study group via Facebook! He is facing expulsion because he facilitated the swapping of tips on homework questions that counted for 10 per cent of the final mark!>> Perhaps Ryerson, and all of us, ought to look again at academic practices, including homework for 10 per cent of the final mark, which discourage collaboration. This kind of mathematizing learning--so many points for this, so few for that--might be candidates for the dustbin of pedagogy. <<He could have (and many do) run a Facebook study group that does not involve colluding on the answers and been applauded.>> Marj>> Steve Eskow Dr Marjorie Kibby, Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia Marj.Kibby@newcastle.edu.au +61 2 49216604
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If the professor had managed the group it would have been considered using the internet in teaching with no news article. now some other thoughts worth a little less. As a TA there is a basic ethics question here that should be obscured by the internet. Also yes students need help and they should be encouraged to learn math together. all we say in my classes is you must hand in your own work you can do math together. Peter On 7-Mar-08, at 7:36 PM, Dr. Steve Eskow wrote:
<<These types of stories piss me off.
He isn't facing charges of academic misconduct for helping run an online chemistry study group via Facebook!
He is facing expulsion because he facilitated the swapping of tips on homework questions that counted for 10 per cent of the final mark!>>
Perhaps Ryerson, and all of us, ought to look again at academic practices, including homework for 10 per cent of the final mark, which discourage collaboration. This kind of mathematizing learning--so many points for this, so few for that--might be candidates for the dustbin of pedagogy.
<<He could have (and many do) run a Facebook study group that does not involve colluding on the answers and been applauded.>>
Marj>>
Steve Eskow
Dr Marjorie Kibby, Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The University of Newcastle, Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia Marj.Kibby@newcastle.edu.au +61 2 49216604
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Student faces Facebook consequences
Freshman hit with 147 academic charges for online study network at Ryerson University
Ryerson student Chris Avenir is facing expulsion for taking part in a Facebook study group for one of his engineering courses.
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I had meant to write that the Internet should NOT obscure the issue. I again point out that there are many scholars using the internet in school classrooms and having students work together but in this case it was not proscribed collaboration. On 8-Mar-08, at 1:05 PM, Peter Timusk wrote:
now some other thoughts worth a little less.
As a TA there is a basic ethics question here that should be obscured by the internet.
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