CDs and DVDs? + potentially inappropriate query
Dear colleagues, I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year. A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices. Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these. At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia? So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance? I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience. Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it. If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions. As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles -- Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication University of Oslo <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/people/aca/charlees/index.html> Postboks 1093 Blindern 0317 Oslo, Norway c.m.ess@media.uio.no
Dear Charles, I have just a quick comment, more or less supporting your view... Am 03.05.2019 um 09:26 schrieb Charles M. Ess:
(a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or
In my environment (Germany, teenagers) at least DVDs are still a little bit relevant in three dimensions, as far as I can tell from some situations I experienced myself. First, as you told, buying CDs on concerts or even from street musicians happens. I guess this is for supporting musicians and to have a souvenir. Second, parents of younger children still have DVDs, they help with limiting the watching time and access control. Third, the streaming market is diverse and the /first /seasons of Game of Thrones apparently are not available on every service. Passing the DVDs around is easier. All in all, it is not the most common thing teenagers do, but they still know what a DVD is.
(b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I think it is still of significance but the situation settled. Eventually, MIT and Apache 2.0 licenses are getting more and more common, aren't they? From what I understand about the debates they address FOSS as well as Open Source concerns. Most web projects I deal with (and even hardware projects, e. g. the "maker movement") use these licences. Best regards, Jakob -- Jakob Jünger University of Greifswald Institute of Political Science and Communication Studies Ernst-Lohmeyer-Platz 3 17487 Greifswald Germany Room: 3.16 (3. floor) Email: jakob.juenger@uni-greifswald.de Phone : +49 3834 420 3444 or +49 173 860 8056 Web: http://www.ipk.uni-greifswald.de/
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 8:26 AM Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
(b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
It's not of significance in that it's become normalized and partially subsumed -- just part of the normal process of production, for better or worse. However, open source licensing remains an active topic and regularly generates controversies. See the recent news surrounding the Commons Clause proposals for Redis and the Amazon Elasticsearch fork. I'd also dispute that MIT/Apache has 'won', copyleft remains an ongoing concern, although perhaps restricted to a smaller group of enthusiasts. The dominance of proprietary services like Github has led to a generation of developers producing open source software without wanting to care about licensing. These licenses -- MIT and Apache, and even more noticably the 'WTFPL' -- form the 'path of least resistance' for said generation, until they get bitten by the potential for co-option involved with them. -- David Banks, Developer & Research Fellow (SHL) <d.banks@sussex.ac.uk / shl.david.banks@gmail.com>
I'd like to add to the voices defending the relevance of F/LOSS--the cutting edge of quantitative research in the social sciences depends on it, but there are more familiar examples (Wordpress, Firefox, Thunderbird, Linux, OpenOffice, VLC, etc.) You might also point out that many services we all know and love incorporate FLOSS, such as the PHP in Facebook and the Python in Dropbox to note just two of the many examples. The notion that FLOSS "is / no longer of any significance" is not true as a general claim, though it might not be as relevant to digital media ethics as it used to be. If that's the case, a clarification regarding what is meant by "significance" would be greatly appreciated. As for media consumption, I'm pretty sure my students are more or less done with physical media. But if you want to talk piracy, you might look at services like BitTorrent, Popcorn Time and its many derivatives, and the many piracy streaming sites out there. These are often accessed via VPNs to keep consumers' identities out of the hands of litigious rights-holders. Finally, the practice of sharing Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime/etc. passwords might be useful as a borderline example? Best, /DEEN On 5/3/2019 3:26 AM, Charles M. Ess wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year.
A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices.
Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these.
At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia?
So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience.
Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it.
If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions.
As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles
-- Deen Freelon, Ph.D. Associate Professor School of Media and Journalism, UNC-Chapel Hill http://dfreelon.org | @dfreelon <https://twitter.com/dfreelon> | https://github.com/dfreelon
CDs and DVDs are still an important product potential for piracy in Latin America. Regards, Xanat V. Meza Ph.D. Kansei, Behavioral and Brain SciencesUniversity of Tsukuba M.A. Media and Communication Yeungnam University B.D. Graphic Communication Design Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana El viernes, 3 de mayo de 2019 10:44:19 p. m. GMT+9, Deen Freelon <dfreelon@gmail.com> escribió: I'd like to add to the voices defending the relevance of F/LOSS--the cutting edge of quantitative research in the social sciences depends on it, but there are more familiar examples (Wordpress, Firefox, Thunderbird, Linux, OpenOffice, VLC, etc.) You might also point out that many services we all know and love incorporate FLOSS, such as the PHP in Facebook and the Python in Dropbox to note just two of the many examples. The notion that FLOSS "is / no longer of any significance" is not true as a general claim, though it might not be as relevant to digital media ethics as it used to be. If that's the case, a clarification regarding what is meant by "significance" would be greatly appreciated. As for media consumption, I'm pretty sure my students are more or less done with physical media. But if you want to talk piracy, you might look at services like BitTorrent, Popcorn Time and its many derivatives, and the many piracy streaming sites out there. These are often accessed via VPNs to keep consumers' identities out of the hands of litigious rights-holders. Finally, the practice of sharing Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime/etc. passwords might be useful as a borderline example? Best, /DEEN On 5/3/2019 3:26 AM, Charles M. Ess wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year.
A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices.
Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these.
At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia?
So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience.
Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it.
If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions.
As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles
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I understand the reviewer's point, but wouldn't get too confident about what types of media are or are not relevant to the audience. Vinyl records, for example, have made a surprising comeback and I think all of my students understand what they are when they come up in discussions. On the other hand, I was floored two or three years ago to find that none of the students had any idea what a player piano roll was. (I anticipated that none of them would know anything about punch cards, or Jaquard looms, but the blank stares at player pianos was a surprise.) But then this year, I didn't have to explain player pianos, because the students were all familiar with the opening credits of "Westworld." Next year, who knows? So these things come and go. Just add a footnote explaining CDs if you are uncertain. I also disagree pretty strongly about FLOSS. It remains an enormous headache for developers. Cheers, DLB On 2019-05-03 00:26, Charles M. Ess wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year.
A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices.
Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these.
At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia?
So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience.
Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it.
If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions.
As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles -- Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication University of Oslo <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/people/aca/charlees/index.html>
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Hey Dan, a thousand thanks on all fronts. FWIW: during a recent visit to the States (Minneapolis, to be precise) I was astonished to see the level of interest in / availability of vinyl, beginning with a warehouse-sized retail store dedicated to same. I'm still working on trying to synthesize and summarize from the many terrific responses that have come this way - but so far, I can offer one broad point. There is no question but that, as the reviewer noted, CDs and DVDs are largely no longer recognizable media for large swaths of students - but this is variable in at least two ways. One, broadly in terms of national/cultural differences, as Jakob Jünger noted re. Germany; Sam Phiri re. Zambia; and Xanat Meza re. Latin America - these remain important media. Two - ditto for, e.g., those located in the more rural areas of Australia who have comparatively limited bandwidth access, etc. (Similar comments hold, so far as I can tell, for the FLOSS discussion - though as others have also noted, while the debate in these terms is no longer so prominent - that's in part because of moderate successes in various forms that are now taken for granted.) Speaking of bandwidth - since I've taken more than my share of it here of late, I'll save more specific responses to these and others kind enough to respond for offlist. But again, a thousand thanks to one and all - most helpful and all will be gratefully acknowledged. best, - c. On 04/05/2019 11:04, Dan L. Burk wrote:
I understand the reviewer's point, but wouldn't get too confident about what types of media are or are not relevant to the audience.
Vinyl records, for example, have made a surprising comeback and I think all of my students understand what they are when they come up in discussions.
On the other hand, I was floored two or three years ago to find that none of the students had any idea what a player piano roll was. (I anticipated that none of them would know anything about punch cards, or Jaquard looms, but the blank stares at player pianos was a surprise.)
But then this year, I didn't have to explain player pianos, because the students were all familiar with the opening credits of "Westworld."
Next year, who knows?
So these things come and go. Just add a footnote explaining CDs if you are uncertain.
I also disagree pretty strongly about FLOSS. It remains an enormous headache for developers.
Cheers, DLB
On 2019-05-03 00:26, Charles M. Ess wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year.
A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices.
Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these.
At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia?
So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience.
Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it.
If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions.
As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles -- Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication University of Oslo <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/people/aca/charlees/index.html>
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-- Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication University of Oslo <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/people/aca/charlees/index.html> Postboks 1093 Blindern 0317 Oslo, Norway c.m.ess@media.uio.no
Recent crazes of data science and AI are enabled by FLOSS software universes such as R's, Numpy's, Tensor Flow's and Torch's. Of course, Linux is running on at least 80% of internet servers and 75% of smartphones (Android). The browsers that run on most of the computers on earth are mostly based on the same FLOSS engine (WebKit/Blink). I think the problem is: FLOSS is so ubiquitous to a point that we don't notice it's prominence anymore. And hence, "FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic". On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 9:26 AM Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year.
A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices.
Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these.
At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia?
So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience.
Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it.
If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions.
As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles -- Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication University of Oslo <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/people/aca/charlees/index.html>
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First of all - I'm looking forward to this very well-timed 3rd edition and being able to include it on future syllabi. Second, FWIW: Here in L.A., both my undergraduate and my graduate students all know what CDs are, but they are historical artifacts for most of them, something their parents used to use. I teach students from all over the economic and cultural spectrum, but this is one thing they all have in common - they were born around the time Napster emerged and started consuming music several years after iTunes had become dominant. DVDs/Blu-rays are different, not because of film, but because they are still big in gaming and the transitition to streaming is only just beginning in that arena. - Morten ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of C.H. <chainsawtiney@gmail.com> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2019 10:16 AM To: Charles M. Ess Cc: air-l Subject: Re: [Air-L] CDs and DVDs? + potentially inappropriate query Recent crazes of data science and AI are enabled by FLOSS software universes such as R's, Numpy's, Tensor Flow's and Torch's. Of course, Linux is running on at least 80% of internet servers and 75% of smartphones (Android). The browsers that run on most of the computers on earth are mostly based on the same FLOSS engine (WebKit/Blink). I think the problem is: FLOSS is so ubiquitous to a point that we don't notice it's prominence anymore. And hence, "FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic". On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 9:26 AM Charles M. Ess <c.m.ess@media.uio.no> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I am revising my _Digital Media Ethics_ for a 3rd edition (!!), due out early next year.
A first query: an important criticism raised by an astute and most helpful reviewer has to do with (a) using an example of stealing a CD and (b) a larger discussion of FLOSS and copyleft schemes such as Creative Commons licensing, etc. The reviewer observes that (a) his/her students simply will not recognize or relate to the example involving a CD as, briefly, streaming services have largely taken over music consumption practices and very few, if any, students still purchase CDs. Similarly (b) FLOSS is more or less no longer a relevant topic; rather discussion of copyright / copyleft is now much more focused on remix practices.
Based on what I know of the US/UK contexts, the reviewer is clearly spot on, and I'm genuinely very grateful for the insightful critiques and constructive suggestions, and will do my best to pursue these.
At the same time, however - and this, at last, leads to the query - I'm wondering how culturally/nationally variable these points may be? That is: (a) I know that in this here Scandinavia, despite the overwhelming predominance of consumption via streaming services, CDs (and DVDs) are still prominently on offer, not only in brick-and-mortar and online stores: they are also _de rigueur_ at every concert I've attended, i.e., for sale at the end thereof. There is no doubt that their sales numbers have plummeted - now outdone by vinyl in some cases - but here, I have the impression, they remain familiar artifacts? Similarly (b) I think I know that interest in FLOSS production and distribution remains strong in Latin America and at least some parts of Asia?
So: only for the sake of having a better global sense of these points - if AoIR-ists can offer culturally-/nationally-specific quick characterizations of how far (a) physical media such as CDs do / not remain relevant in especially student music consumption, and/or (b) FLOSS - including ongoing development and distribution of software (beyond the usual suspects of Mozilla products, wikipedia, etc.) is / no longer of any significance?
I hope this query might be of general interest as it would give us at least a quick and dirty snapshot of all of this. Again, the point is not to somehow counter an important critique and helpful suggestion. On the contrary, I gratefully take the points and suggestions - but want / need to know how far these may hold globally as the book is aimed towards a global audience.
Second - potentially inappropriate - query. In conjunction with this revision, the publisher (Polity Press) has asked me to develop a list of colleagues who may be interested in receiving a review copy of the book when it is published - along with a list of journals that might likewise be interested in reviewing it.
If you are so interested and/or have a suggestion for a journal / reviewer, I'd be very grateful if you would contact me offlist with your contact details and/or journal suggestions.
As usual, a thousand thanks and all best in the meantime, - charles -- Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication University of Oslo <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.hf.uio.no_imk_english_people_aca_charlees_index.html&d=DwICAg&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=qiSa-D308wu7QXS5E_AL0g&m=hohdKCW_xKpmiNnfXrlQFtSwMjzz1DSTFgJ9d3q9Dn8&s=5uqV8UwplP8OasNbsJcgYmJnJ2JbiqjCyzSofuY9Z_Q&e=>
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