At 12:01 Uhr -0400 24.5.2001, Ken Friedman wrote:
Some of the posts to the list argue against this on moral or ethical grounds. I will not take up these issues. The law is the law,
Hi all, one question: what is the point in using "the law" as a basis for discussion in an "internet"ional mailing list as long as there are no international laws on these issues? Regards, --ur
Last note on my part on this issue. But I did a bit of research, and found that several sites do encourage sending articles to multiple sources and indeed encourage sending to as many people as possible. For example, CNN offers help on sending to "friends, family, and colleagues." I wrote to the "help" address to ask if it was okay to send the article to a listserv. They said it was fine as long as they could identify those who received the article (the function is run by a marketing company as well as the help). On the one hand, it confirms that they hold copyright and can do what they want with the articles, including forwarding and republishing to as many as possible using email. And the service should go through their system. On the other hand, copyright is not being used to protect themselves or writers, but as a marketing tool to determine who is interested in what kinds of topics and establish an email repository of users. On another note, does anyone know of good resources or articles about the status of materials on institution owned computers and networks. An interesting case in Michigan recently of a state senator who was ousted from office--among the charges was keeping pornographic materials on senate owned computer (topless pictures of significant other). Dean Rehberger -----Original Message----- From: air-l-admin@aoir.org [mailto:air-l-admin@aoir.org]On Behalf Of Ulf Reips Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 5:42 AM To: air-l@aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] "the law" At 12:01 Uhr -0400 24.5.2001, Ken Friedman wrote:
Some of the posts to the list argue against this on moral or ethical grounds. I will not take up these issues. The law is the law,
Hi all, one question: what is the point in using "the law" as a basis for discussion in an "internet"ional mailing list as long as there are no international laws on these issues? Regards, --ur _______________________________________________ Air-l mailing list Air-l@aoir.org http://www.aoir.org/mailman/listinfo/air-l
--On Friday, May 25, 2001 7:50 AM -0400 Dean Rehberger <rehberger@mail.matrix.msu.edu> wrote:
Last note on my part on this issue. But I did a bit of research, and found that several sites do encourage sending articles to multiple sources and indeed encourage sending to as many people as possible. For example, CNN offers help on sending to "friends, family, and colleagues." I wrote to the "help" address to ask if it was okay to send the article to a listserv. They said it was fine as long as they could identify those who received the article (the function is run by a marketing company as well as the help).
This last sentence seems to suggest that CNN will agree to sending its articles to a listserv as long as each and every recipient on the listserv can be identified to their marketing company. If this is the case, I don't think their policy supports the sending of articles to listservs. I for one would NOT want to be identified to a marketing company, and I suspect many others on this list would have a similar reservation. I thought I'd stay out of this discussion, but now that I'm sending this message, I might mention that I support the position of Jeremy Hunsinger and Ed Lamoureux. Like Jeremy, I'm responsible for a public listserv that runs on a university server, and I've put a statement in my list's User's Guide asking people not to send articles covered by copyright to the list. The article's information can be conveyed just as effectively by giving people the URL along with the title and/or a brief excerpt or summary. That also saves space in the digest and the archives. Joan Joan Korenman, Director Center for Women & Information Technology University of Maryland, Baltimore County Baltimore, MD 21250 USA korenman@umbc.edu http://www.umbc.edu/cwit/
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