Re: [Air-l] Tutorial: How to unsubscribe from air-l
one key point of communicating with the list is that you have to send from an email that is subscribed to the list, it has to be a perfect match, or the list software will discard it.
Of course, unfortunately, this setting makes it impossible to use aliases for this list, unless you're okay with not ever posting anything. Eszter
one key point of communicating with the list is that you have to send from an email that is subscribed to the list, it has to be a perfect match, or the list software will discard it.
Of course, unfortunately, this setting makes it impossible to use aliases for this list, unless you're okay with not ever posting anything.
hotmail/gmail accounts are free and semi-anonymous. many other email accounts are also free. I don't see any way in which your inability to send mail from an unsubscribed email address is limiting you *at all*. the list benefits far more than you suffer. :) if you're really concerned about using an alias, find your nearest convenient mixmaster proxy and have your mail to the list anonymized. elijah
well.... not really. that is more likely an issue with the individuals settings. many people use aliases here, they just have their system and/or the list set to make that happen. one way we suggest you can do this is by subscribing your aliases and setting them to nomail, the other way you can do it is to configure your mail interface to only send the proper address to air-l . On Aug 17, 2004, at 8:58 AM, Eszter Hargittai wrote:
one key point of communicating with the list is that you have to send from an email that is subscribed to the list, it has to be a perfect match, or the list software will discard it.
Of course, unfortunately, this setting makes it impossible to use aliases for this list, unless you're okay with not ever posting anything.
Eszter
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I'm in CMC shock! "False" identities? Here?!!! Actually, I will confess. I *was* surprised and a bit taken aback. Why would folks choose an alias for a professional listserv? Then, I started to realize the assumptions......what if I have politically unpopular viewpoints or want to ask a "loaded" question? I've thought about the possible repercussions of things I've posted in my blog. Who will take them out of context, how could they be (mis)used? I can see that there's a way in which revealing my "real" identity opens me up to more flack (as if attracting flack isn't what I do anyway. ha!) and could, potentially, arm my enemies (figuratively, at least at the present time). So, here I am. Caught (again) in a perception that others' values, choices, priorities, etc. mirror my own. :-( steph http://www.reflexivity.us On Aug 17, 2004, at 9:42 AM, jeremy hunsinger wrote:
well.... not really. that is more likely an issue with the individuals settings. many people use aliases here, they just have their system and/or the list set to make that happen. one way we suggest you can do this is by subscribing your aliases and setting them to nomail, the other way you can do it is to configure your mail interface to only send the proper address to air-l . On Aug 17, 2004, at 8:58 AM, Eszter Hargittai wrote:
one key point of communicating with the list is that you have to send from an email that is subscribed to the list, it has to be a perfect match, or the list software will discard it.
Of course, unfortunately, this setting makes it impossible to use aliases for this list, unless you're okay with not ever posting anything.
Eszter
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Why would folks choose an alias for a professional listserv?
ha, don't assume we're all professional somewhat-"ists" here. oops, just gave myself away.
Then, I started to realize the assumptions......what if I have politically unpopular viewpoints or want to ask a "loaded" question?
hm, that's a point among many possible ones.. as i just said probably not everyone here is "professional" in the sense of "belonging" ("quote"=> because i mean in the hierarchical, institutional, even commercial sense) to the audience this list is aimed at. let me clarify though, i'm aware air.l is open to anyone and that's just fine, though anecdotal evidence (ohhh, the joy of using expressions regularly used by the natives ;) shows that most (active!!) people around here are in some way affiliated with the social/comm/psy/etc. scientific communities. that said, i for one wouldn't feel the need to go "non-aliased" because adding complete name/affiliation/degree etc. information doesn't fit in; it wouldnt add any extra value to my posts or put me into perspective at all. plus, there might not be such nfo in the first place. that of course raises the question whether "cred" info modifies the way a message is perceived by the audience. do elaborate "DR X, INSTITUTE OF APPLIED MNEMONICS, University of OVer There,.." footers add additional impetus to anything? maxd
An alias doesn't necessarily conceal an identity. egodard@csun.edu is an alias for ellis.godard@csun.edu. -eg
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of noci Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:12 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Aliases
Why would folks choose an alias for a professional listserv?
ha, don't assume we're all professional somewhat-"ists" here. oops, just gave myself away.
Then, I started to realize the assumptions......what if I have politically unpopular viewpoints or want to ask a "loaded" question?
hm, that's a point among many possible ones.. as i just said probably not everyone here is "professional" in the sense of "belonging" ("quote"=> because i mean in the hierarchical, institutional, even commercial sense) to the audience this list is aimed at. let me clarify though, i'm aware air.l is open to anyone and that's just fine, though anecdotal evidence (ohhh, the joy of using expressions regularly used by the natives ;) shows that most (active!!) people around here are in some way affiliated with the social/comm/psy/etc. scientific communities.
that said, i for one wouldn't feel the need to go "non-aliased" because adding complete name/affiliation/degree etc. information doesn't fit in; it wouldnt add any extra value to my posts or put me into perspective at all. plus, there might not be such nfo in the first place. that of course raises the question whether "cred" info modifies the way a message is perceived by the audience. do elaborate "DR X, INSTITUTE OF APPLIED MNEMONICS, University of OVer There,.." footers add additional impetus to anything?
maxd
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one key point of communicating with the list is that you have to send from an email that is subscribed to the list, it has to be a perfect match, or the list software will discard it.
Of course, unfortunately, this setting makes it impossible to use aliases for this list, unless you're okay with not ever posting anything.
Actually, it's not impossible at all. On lists that I manage, people routinely get around this by subscribing from multiple aliases and then setting all but one such subscriptions to "nomail." They can then post from different aliases without getting 2-3 copies of every list message. And given the number of spam messages that get sent to (and auto-discarded from) those lists anyway, I suspect that if Jeremy were to change this setting to a more open-ended one, the list would be awash in genuine spam, rather than just people struggling to recover their lost settings. Cheers Gil
Something weird happened when the list host changed. For some reason I had stopped getting mail from the list for quite some time. Then boom, the messages started coming again. (I sub to too many lists, so I sort and often ignore). I suspect something happened that 'dormant' subscribers got reactivated. They were surprised. Many unsubbed. So I think it may not just be a case of clueless users, but something triggered in the system to send mail to folks who probably did not think they were on the list.
Something weird happened when the list host changed. For some reason I had stopped getting mail from the list for quite some time. Then boom, the messages started coming again. (I sub to too many lists, so I sort and often ignore). I suspect something happened that 'dormant' subscribers got reactivated. They were surprised. Many unsubbed. So I think it may not just be a case of clueless users, but something triggered in the system to send mail to folks who probably did not think they were on the list.
if an account bounces a lot of mail (say for an exceeded quota) over a period of time, Mailman will set that individual to 'nomail' rather than continuing to make delivery attempts. most likely a number of people were "reactivated" by the list move.
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