I am not making this up: "A day after the Hans Reiser murder trial drifted into the netherworld, the murder case against the Linux programmer careened Thursday into the world of psychiatry. Defense witness and psychiatrist Beverly Parr, on the stand for the second day, testified that those who use a computer regularly "possibly" might have Asperger's syndrome. Those diagnosed with this disorder have impaired social skills. "His activities were restricted to the computer more than I would expect," testified Parr, a family friend of the Reisers. "What you're saying, you found his work on the computer matched one of the diagnostic features of Asperger's?" prosecutor Paul Hora asked on cross examination. "Possibly." There's more to the story at the website: Source: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/hans_reiser_trial/index.html#top 22Feb08 Barry Wellman _______________________________________________________________________ S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Room 418 Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-7162 Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php Elvis wouldn't be singing "Return to Sender" these days _______________________________________________________________________
Here are the criterion for diagnosing Asperger's: http://web.syr.edu/~rjkopp/data/as_diag_list.html Based on the abbreviated exchange below, it would seem she was going strictly with choice B* - "Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behaviour, interests, and activities." Given the current reality of specialization in work environments, this seems a rather useless criterion taken by itself and without support of the other diagnostic features. We wouldn't accuse her of being autistic merely because she is a psychiatrist and...pyschiatrizes...all day, would we? (Please note that, further down the page, Szatmari does not even include this factor as a diagnostic criterion at all.) That is not to say I haven't met people that could meet several of these criteria, in several different fields, but I would hope she made this judgement on other factors, as well? -Alexis On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Barry Wellman wrote: ::Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:09:47 -0500 ::From: Barry Wellman <wellman@chass.utoronto.ca> ::Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org ::To: aoir list <air-l@aoir.org> ::Subject: [Air-L] do we all have asperger's? :: ::I am not making this up: :: ::"A day after the Hans Reiser murder trial drifted into the netherworld, ::the murder case against the Linux programmer careened Thursday into the ::world of psychiatry. :: ::Defense witness and psychiatrist Beverly Parr, on the stand for the second ::day, testified that those who use a computer regularly "possibly" might ::have Asperger's syndrome. Those diagnosed with this disorder have impaired ::social skills. :: ::"His activities were restricted to the computer more than I would expect," ::testified Parr, a family friend of the Reisers. :: ::"What you're saying, you found his work on the computer matched one of the ::diagnostic features of Asperger's?" prosecutor Paul Hora asked on cross ::examination. :: ::"Possibly." :: ::There's more to the story at the website: :: ::Source: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/hans_reiser_trial/index.html#top ::22Feb08 :: :: Barry Wellman :: _______________________________________________________________________ :: :: S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director :: Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto :: 455 Spadina Avenue Room 418 Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 :: http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-7162 :: Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php :: Elvis wouldn't be singing "Return to Sender" these days :: _______________________________________________________________________ :: :: ::_______________________________________________ ::The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list ::is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org ::Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org :: ::Join the Association of Internet Researchers: ::http://www.aoir.org/ :: + -------- redheadedstepchild.org ------- +
yes, using a computer (or any other tool) all day is just the technology of our time. what about the 'old' days when instead of writing and communicating via a computer we were doing it via paper and pencil and telephone for most of the working day? On Feb 22, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Alexis Turner wrote:
Here are the criterion for diagnosing Asperger's: http://web.syr.edu/~rjkopp/data/as_diag_list.html
Based on the abbreviated exchange below, it would seem she was going strictly with choice B* - "Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behaviour, interests, and activities." Given the current reality of specialization in work environments, this seems a rather useless criterion taken by itself and without support of the other diagnostic features. We wouldn't accuse her of being autistic merely because she is a psychiatrist and...pyschiatrizes...all day, would we?
(Please note that, further down the page, Szatmari does not even include this factor as a diagnostic criterion at all.)
That is not to say I haven't met people that could meet several of these criteria, in several different fields, but I would hope she made this judgement on other factors, as well? -Alexis
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Barry Wellman wrote:
::Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:09:47 -0500 ::From: Barry Wellman <wellman@chass.utoronto.ca> ::Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org ::To: aoir list <air-l@aoir.org> ::Subject: [Air-L] do we all have asperger's? :: ::I am not making this up: :: ::"A day after the Hans Reiser murder trial drifted into the netherworld, ::the murder case against the Linux programmer careened Thursday into the ::world of psychiatry. :: ::Defense witness and psychiatrist Beverly Parr, on the stand for the second ::day, testified that those who use a computer regularly "possibly" might ::have Asperger's syndrome. Those diagnosed with this disorder have impaired ::social skills. :: ::"His activities were restricted to the computer more than I would expect," ::testified Parr, a family friend of the Reisers. :: ::"What you're saying, you found his work on the computer matched one of the ::diagnostic features of Asperger's?" prosecutor Paul Hora asked on cross ::examination. :: ::"Possibly." :: ::There's more to the story at the website: :: ::Source: http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/hans_reiser_trial/index.html#top ::22Feb08 :: :: Barry Wellman :: _______________________________________________________________________ :: :: S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director :: Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto :: 455 Spadina Avenue Room 418 Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 :: http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax: +1-416-978-7162 :: Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php :: Elvis wouldn't be singing "Return to Sender" these days :: _______________________________________________________________________ :: :: ::_______________________________________________ ::The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list ::is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org ::Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org :: ::Join the Association of Internet Researchers: ::http://www.aoir.org/ ::
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While using a computer all day doesnt mean you are asperters - those who are aspergers tend to gravitate to worlds they can deal with and handle - such as computers, intellectual work, online games.... Being an academic or computer geek doesnt mean you are aspergers, but I sure know a lot of them who are. For fun look at http://www.wrongplanet.net/ --- Andrea Kavanaugh <kavan@vt.edu> wrote:
yes, using a computer (or any other tool) all day is just the technology of our time. what about the 'old' days when instead of writing and communicating via a computer we were doing it via paper and pencil and telephone for most of the working day?
On Feb 22, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Alexis Turne
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Ah, the characterizations of comm. tech. phenomena that trial attorneys will stoop to. Recall a few decades ago, when the defense in Ronald Zamora's murder trial claimed temporary insanity for their client based on his "television intoxication" in general and his love of the program Kojak in particular? Not an exact parallel to the current case, but similar enough to be interesting. Christopher J. Richter Associate Professor, Communication Studies Hollins University 8015 Quadrangle Lane PO Box 9652 Roanoke, VA 24020-1652 Tel: 5403626358 Fax: 5403626286 crichter@hollins.edu www.hollins.edu -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Robert Cannon Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:56 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] do we all have asperger's? While using a computer all day doesnt mean you are asperters - those who are aspergers tend to gravitate to worlds they can deal with and handle - such as computers, intellectual work, online games.... Being an academic or computer geek doesnt mean you are aspergers, but I sure know a lot of them who are. For fun look at http://www.wrongplanet.net/ --- Andrea Kavanaugh <kavan@vt.edu> wrote:
yes, using a computer (or any other tool) all day is just the technology of our time. what about the 'old' days when instead of writing and communicating via a computer we were doing it via paper and pencil and telephone for most of the working day?
On Feb 22, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Alexis Turne
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