Warchalking does not exist: a wager.
Hi Steve and air-l colleagues, Steve: Remember the hallway conversation we had last fall about whether or not 'true' Warchalking exists? If I remember, it was your contention that it does and that you'd seen it in the Loop. As you know I'm doing a research project on Wi-Fi and I've been trying to settle this for a while. I'm writing this note to air-l because I need help. For background, Warchalking is the use of symbols (marked with chalk) to indicate the presence of a Wi-Fi hotspot. In pure form, the story of warchalking is that there is a subculture of Wi-Fi users that use chalk to communicate with each other about Wi-Fi locations. Hip/cool businesses then co-opted the subcultural warchalking to advertise their own hotspots. More at: http://www.warchalking.org/ My contention is that the first (subcultural) story about warchalking above is entirely a media phenomenon -- it is a beautiful idea, but it doesn't make any sense as a directory service to find Wi-Fi. It is too easy to miss a warchalk mark, and the chalk wears away (or washes away in the rain) too quickly. Warchalking symbols were heavily promoted in the New York Times just *48 hours* after they were first made public on the Web. There was a subsequent wave of media stories about warchalking, giving everyone ideas. Every single occurrence of chalk I've found can be attributed to chalkers who want to self-promote their own mark. So I believe that people *do* rarely make warchalking marks for various reasons (to be cool, to advertise for their own network) but I *don't* believe that people use warchalking marks in a meaningful way to find Wi-Fi. After the conversation with Steve, on December 18th I posted an call to many colleagues around the world asking for verifiable instances of warchalking that work the way that warchalking describes itself. Reports to date: zero. If warchalking worked as a directory location service, shouldn't I be able to find it? I just had a close call -- a friend told me that my office at Oxford had been warchalked. Since it is a WEP (non-open) node and I didn't do it, this could be half of a "true" instance of warchalking! I ran out as soon as I heard but couldn't find the mark. It must have washed away? (Here in England, it is raining.) So I am willing to propose a wager, or a bounty. I'll bet one dollar that warchalking is not a meaningful way of locating Wi-Fi hotspots. To win the bounty, can anyone deliver someone that uses warchalking to locate Wi-Fi hotspots? Caveats: (1) Warchalking done by the provider of the hotspot does not count -- it is supposedly a co-option of the "pure" subculture. I dispute the subculture, not the self-promotion. (2) I am not disputing that wardriving, warwalking, and online hotspot mapping (warchalking with bits in GIS databases, not with chalk) exist as advertised. (Though others have.) My beef here is only about the chalk part. I've made a web page for this bet that has the relevant emails I've sent and some links: http://www.niftyc.org/bet/ As you may have guessed I'm writing a paper about this. Email me if you want a copy when I finish. Thank you for any help! Christian -- http://www.niftyc.org/
Thought you might find the following article of interest. http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,53638,00.html Angela xxx --------------------------- Sociopranos - Society Redefined: All new members welcome! www.sociopranos.com Mature online Discussion Forum. http://www.sociopranos.com/forums/category-view.asp Gamedays - For True Gamers: Join Now for Mature Discussion ... most of the time ;) www.gamedays.com [Xbox - GCN - PS2 - Everything else!] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian Sandvig" <csandvig@uiuc.edu> To: <air-l@aoir.org> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: [Air-l] Warchalking does not exist: a wager.
Hi Steve and air-l colleagues,
Steve: Remember the hallway conversation we had last fall about whether
or
not 'true' Warchalking exists? If I remember, it was your contention that it does and that you'd seen it in the Loop. As you know I'm doing a research project on Wi-Fi and I've been trying to settle this for a while. I'm writing this note to air-l because I need help.
For background, Warchalking is the use of symbols (marked with chalk) to indicate the presence of a Wi-Fi hotspot. In pure form, the story of warchalking is that there is a subculture of Wi-Fi users that use chalk to communicate with each other about Wi-Fi locations. Hip/cool businesses then co-opted the subcultural warchalking to advertise their own hotspots. More at: http://www.warchalking.org/
My contention is that the first (subcultural) story about warchalking above is entirely a media phenomenon -- it is a beautiful idea, but it doesn't make any sense as a directory service to find Wi-Fi. It is too easy to miss a warchalk mark, and the chalk wears away (or washes away in the rain) too quickly. Warchalking symbols were heavily promoted in the New York Times just *48 hours* after they were first made public on the Web. There was a subsequent wave of media stories about warchalking, giving everyone ideas. Every single occurrence of chalk I've found can be attributed to chalkers who want to self-promote their own mark. So I believe that people *do* rarely make warchalking marks for various reasons (to be cool, to advertise for their own network) but I *don't* believe that people use warchalking marks in a meaningful way to find Wi-Fi.
After the conversation with Steve, on December 18th I posted an call to many colleagues around the world asking for verifiable instances of warchalking that work the way that warchalking describes itself. Reports to date: zero. If warchalking worked as a directory location service, shouldn't I be able to find it?
I just had a close call -- a friend told me that my office at Oxford had been warchalked. Since it is a WEP (non-open) node and I didn't do it, this could be half of a "true" instance of warchalking! I ran out as soon as I heard but couldn't find the mark. It must have washed away? (Here in England, it is raining.)
So I am willing to propose a wager, or a bounty. I'll bet one dollar that warchalking is not a meaningful way of locating Wi-Fi hotspots. To win the bounty, can anyone deliver someone that uses warchalking to locate Wi-Fi hotspots?
Caveats: (1) Warchalking done by the provider of the hotspot does not count -- it is supposedly a co-option of the "pure" subculture. I dispute the subculture, not the self-promotion. (2) I am not disputing that wardriving, warwalking, and online hotspot mapping (warchalking with bits in GIS databases, not with chalk) exist as advertised. (Though others have.) My beef here is only about the chalk part.
I've made a web page for this bet that has the relevant emails I've sent and some links: http://www.niftyc.org/bet/
As you may have guessed I'm writing a paper about this. Email me if you want a copy when I finish. Thank you for any help!
Christian
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Paul Ruiz claimed he used warchalking to deliver his "Live from Eldred V. Ashcroft" blog on Lawmeme: http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/ modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=392 It was amazing to see these published notes just moments after the oral arguments were completed (too bad the ruling itself wasn't so amazing. Sigh.). I don't know if Ruiz still "uses" warchalking, so though it may not qualify for betting purposes, I think it's a pretty interesting example. Dave On Monday, June 30, 2003, at 11:32 AM, Christian Sandvig wrote:
Hi Steve and air-l colleagues,
Steve: Remember the hallway conversation we had last fall about whether or not 'true' Warchalking exists? If I remember, it was your contention that it does and that you'd seen it in the Loop. As you know I'm doing a research project on Wi-Fi and I've been trying to settle this for a while. I'm writing this note to air-l because I need help.
For background, Warchalking is the use of symbols (marked with chalk) to indicate the presence of a Wi-Fi hotspot. In pure form, the story of warchalking is that there is a subculture of Wi-Fi users that use chalk to communicate with each other about Wi-Fi locations. Hip/cool businesses then co-opted the subcultural warchalking to advertise their own hotspots. More at: http://www.warchalking.org/
My contention is that the first (subcultural) story about warchalking above is entirely a media phenomenon -- it is a beautiful idea, but it doesn't make any sense as a directory service to find Wi-Fi. It is too easy to miss a warchalk mark, and the chalk wears away (or washes away in the rain) too quickly. Warchalking symbols were heavily promoted in the New York Times just *48 hours* after they were first made public on the Web. There was a subsequent wave of media stories about warchalking, giving everyone ideas. Every single occurrence of chalk I've found can be attributed to chalkers who want to self-promote their own mark. So I believe that people *do* rarely make warchalking marks for various reasons (to be cool, to advertise for their own network) but I *don't* believe that people use warchalking marks in a meaningful way to find Wi-Fi.
After the conversation with Steve, on December 18th I posted an call to many colleagues around the world asking for verifiable instances of warchalking that work the way that warchalking describes itself. Reports to date: zero. If warchalking worked as a directory location service, shouldn't I be able to find it?
I just had a close call -- a friend told me that my office at Oxford had been warchalked. Since it is a WEP (non-open) node and I didn't do it, this could be half of a "true" instance of warchalking! I ran out as soon as I heard but couldn't find the mark. It must have washed away? (Here in England, it is raining.)
So I am willing to propose a wager, or a bounty. I'll bet one dollar that warchalking is not a meaningful way of locating Wi-Fi hotspots. To win the bounty, can anyone deliver someone that uses warchalking to locate Wi-Fi hotspots?
Caveats: (1) Warchalking done by the provider of the hotspot does not count -- it is supposedly a co-option of the "pure" subculture. I dispute the subculture, not the self-promotion. (2) I am not disputing that wardriving, warwalking, and online hotspot mapping (warchalking with bits in GIS databases, not with chalk) exist as advertised. (Though others have.) My beef here is only about the chalk part.
I've made a web page for this bet that has the relevant emails I've sent and some links: http://www.niftyc.org/bet/
As you may have guessed I'm writing a paper about this. Email me if you want a copy when I finish. Thank you for any help!
Christian
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Christian, it's an interesting bet, but it's not one I'd take up - the crux of it revolves around what is "meaningful" as a directory, and I agree with you that it's not such if we consider it in sort of "traditional" terms concerning what a directory is and does. That's not to say, though, that it doesn't potentially serve other purposes, less obviously functional ones, such as a marker during games of what we might term "hide-and-seek" (for lack of a better name) and treasure hunts among the technoscenti. It's also probably been fairly quickly eclipsed by the numerous "traditional" online directories that show wireless access points, for all the reasons you note - and then some (the advantages of searching, for instance). Most Wi-Fi devices also include a means by which one can search for a node. I've walked around downtown Chicago on several occasions and have found numerous nodes that way, most of which have not been marked. The most recent mark I saw was about two months ago, in early May, on the side of a building in the financial district...but there was no node that I could find there. Meanwhile, a block north at a Starbucks, as you might guess, there was a node. Sj At 4:32 PM +0100 6/30/03, Christian Sandvig wrote:
Hi Steve and air-l colleagues,
Steve: Remember the hallway conversation we had last fall about whether or not 'true' Warchalking exists? If I remember, it was your contention that it does and that you'd seen it in the Loop. As you know I'm doing a research project on Wi-Fi and I've been trying to settle this for a while. I'm writing this note to air-l because I need help.
For background, Warchalking is the use of symbols (marked with chalk) to indicate the presence of a Wi-Fi hotspot. In pure form, the story of warchalking is that there is a subculture of Wi-Fi users that use chalk to communicate with each other about Wi-Fi locations. Hip/cool businesses then co-opted the subcultural warchalking to advertise their own hotspots. More at: http://www.warchalking.org/
My contention is that the first (subcultural) story about warchalking above is entirely a media phenomenon -- it is a beautiful idea, but it doesn't make any sense as a directory service to find Wi-Fi. It is too easy to miss a warchalk mark, and the chalk wears away (or washes away in the rain) too quickly. Warchalking symbols were heavily promoted in the New York Times just *48 hours* after they were first made public on the Web. There was a subsequent wave of media stories about warchalking, giving everyone ideas. Every single occurrence of chalk I've found can be attributed to chalkers who want to self-promote their own mark. So I believe that people *do* rarely make warchalking marks for various reasons (to be cool, to advertise for their own network) but I *don't* believe that people use warchalking marks in a meaningful way to find Wi-Fi.
After the conversation with Steve, on December 18th I posted an call to many colleagues around the world asking for verifiable instances of warchalking that work the way that warchalking describes itself. Reports to date: zero. If warchalking worked as a directory location service, shouldn't I be able to find it?
I just had a close call -- a friend told me that my office at Oxford had been warchalked. Since it is a WEP (non-open) node and I didn't do it, this could be half of a "true" instance of warchalking! I ran out as soon as I heard but couldn't find the mark. It must have washed away? (Here in England, it is raining.)
So I am willing to propose a wager, or a bounty. I'll bet one dollar that warchalking is not a meaningful way of locating Wi-Fi hotspots. To win the bounty, can anyone deliver someone that uses warchalking to locate Wi-Fi hotspots?
Caveats: (1) Warchalking done by the provider of the hotspot does not count -- it is supposedly a co-option of the "pure" subculture. I dispute the subculture, not the self-promotion. (2) I am not disputing that wardriving, warwalking, and online hotspot mapping (warchalking with bits in GIS databases, not with chalk) exist as advertised. (Though others have.) My beef here is only about the chalk part.
I've made a web page for this bet that has the relevant emails I've sent and some links: http://www.niftyc.org/bet/
As you may have guessed I'm writing a paper about this. Email me if you want a copy when I finish. Thank you for any help!
Christian
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