Dear Loup, You may be interested in Ali Alkhatib and Michael Bernstein (2019), Street-level algorithms: A theory of the gaps between policy and decisions. Proc. CHI 2019, paper 530. ... available in the ACM Digital Library, or directly at [1]https://hci.stanford.edu/publications/2019/streetlevelalgorithms/str eetlevelalgorithms-chi2019.pdf . This paper won a well-earned Best Paper award at the CHI conference. best, --michael ----- Michael Muller, PhD, IBM Research, Cambridge MA USA ACM Distinguished Scientist ACM SIGCHI Academy IBM Master Inventor ----- Original message ----- From: Dave Levine <dave@hearsayculture.com> Sent by: "Air-L" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> To: Loup Cellard <loupcellard@gmail.com> Cc: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Air-L] algorithms as infrastructures/archives Date: Mon, May 27, 2019 1:27 PM Loup, from my perspective as a law professor, on your second point, I’d highly recommend Kroll et al., Accountable Algorithms ([2]https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/penn_law_review/vol165/iss3/3/). I’ve also written extensively on accountability, transparency, and code in the private and public sectors (see, for example, The People’s Trade Secrets ([3]https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1571436) and Confidentiality Creep and Opportunistic Privacy ([4]https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3064257). Happy to discuss off-line if you’d like. Thanks, Best, Dave

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Hi folks,

Anyone can recommend readings helping in conceptualising algorithms as "old" infrastructures or "living" archives.

I am studying more particularly large-scale decision-making systems that relies on "old" infrastructures of the state. Ex: algorithms used to calculate taxes, the work mobility of civil servants, allocation of students into schools, etc.

I am interested about two things :

- while algorithms are sometimes defined as innovative and somehow "new" they actually relies on "old" infrastructures. (the temporality of infrastructures) - the infrastructural capacity of the state and the way it maintain an opacity on these systems. (the attractiveness and dangers of algorithmic transparency)

Any recommendation from infrastructure studies ? critical algorithm studies ? sociology/anthropology of the state and civil services ?

Many thanks,

Loup

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Loup, also, forgot to mention this great white paper by the AI Now Institute: Algorithmic Impact Assessments (https://ainowinstitute.org/aiareport2018.pdf). Thanks, Best, Dave Sent from my iPhone. All typos are Apple's fault.

On May 27, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Dr. S.A. Applin <sally@sally.com> wrote:

Hi,

PolySocial Reality (PoSR) is a conceptual model that encompasses messaging and communications—including algorithms.

You might find something at posr.org

and at posr.org/wiki/publications

-Sally

Sally Applin, Ph.D. .......... Research Fellow HRAF Advanced Research Centres (EU), Canterbury Centre for Social Anthropology and Computing (CSAC) .......... Research Associate Human Relations Area Files (HRAF) Yale University .......... Associate Editor, IEEE Consumer Electronics Magazine Member, IoT Council Executive Board Member: The Edward H. and Rosamond B. Spicer Foundation .......... http://www.posr.org http://www.sally.com I am based in Silicon Valley .......... sally@sally.com | 650.339.5236

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On May 27, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Loup Cellard <loupcellard@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Anyone can recommend readings helping in conceptualising algorithms as "old" infrastructures or "living" archives.

I am studying more particularly large-scale decision-making systems that relies on "old" infrastructures of the state. Ex: algorithms used to calculate taxes, the work mobility of civil servants, allocation of students into schools, etc.

I am interested about two things :

- while algorithms are sometimes defined as innovative and somehow "new" they actually relies on "old" infrastructures. (the temporality of infrastructures) - the infrastructural capacity of the state and the way it maintain an opacity on these systems. (the attractiveness and dangers of algorithmic transparency)

Any recommendation from infrastructure studies ? critical algorithm studies ? sociology/anthropology of the state and civil services ?

Many thanks,

Loup

--

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You may also be interested in a series of defamiliarizing papers about algorithms by Nick Seaver - see his writing page [1]http://nickseaver.net/writing at his website. best, --michael ----- Michael Muller, PhD, IBM Research, Cambridge MA USA ACM Distinguished Scientist ACM SIGCHI Academy IBM Master Inventor ----- Original message ----- From: Mar Hicks <marhicks0@gmail.com> Sent by: "Air-L" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> To: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Cc: Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Air-L] algorithms as infrastructures/archives Date: Mon, May 27, 2019 2:37 PM Hi Loup, Along the lines of "old infrastructures of the state," you might be interested in my recent article on transphobic algorithmic bias in the mainframe era, as well as the other articles in this recent 2-part special issue on the history of computing in governance: "Hacking the Cis-tem" IEEE Annals of the History of Computing, Volume 41 Issue 1, Jan.-March-2019 [2]https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8634814 Abstract This article looks at the case of transgender Britons who tried to correct the gender listed on their government-issued ID cards, but ran up against the British government's increasingly computerized methods for tracking, identifying, and defining citizens. These newly-computerizing systems show some of the earliest examples of transphobic algorithmic bias: explicit attempts to program trans people out of the system can be seen in the programming of the early Ministry of Pensions computer system designed to apportion benefits to all taxpaying British citizens. Transgender citizens pushed back against these developments, attempting to hack the bureaucratic avenues and categories available to them, laying the groundwork for a coalescing political movement. This article argues that uncovering the deep prehistory of algorithmic bias, and investigating instances of resistance within this history, is essential to understanding current debates about algorithmic bias--and how computerized systems have long functioned to create and enforce norms and hierarchies. Best, Mar ______________________ Mar Hicks Associate Professor History of Technology Illinois Institute of Technology Chicago, IL USA mhicks1@iit.edu | marhicks.com | @histoftech Programmed Inequality: How Britain Discarded Women Technologists and Lost Its Edge in Computing www.programmedinequality.com On May 27, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Dr. S.A. Applin <sally@sally.com> wrote: Hi, PolySocial Reality (PoSR) is a conceptual model that encompasses messaging and communications—including algorithms. You might find something at posr.org and at posr.org/wiki/publications -Sally Sally Applin, Ph.D. .......... Research Fellow HRAF Advanced Research Centres (EU), Canterbury Centre for Social Anthropology and Computing (CSAC) .......... Research Associate Human Relations Area Files (HRAF) Yale University .......... Associate Editor, IEEE Consumer Electronics Magazine Member, IoT Council Executive Board Member: The Edward H. and Rosamond B. Spicer Foundation .......... [3]http://www.posr.org [4]http://www.sally.com I am based in Silicon Valley .......... sally@sally.com | 650.339.5236 ______________________ Mar[ie] Hicks mariehicks.net | @histoftech Programmed Inequality: How Britain Discarded Women Technologists and Lost Its Edge in Computing www.programmedinequality.com

On May 27, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Loup Cellard <loupcellard@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Anyone can recommend readings helping in conceptualising algorithms as "old" infrastructures or "living" archives.

I am studying more particularly large-scale decision-making systems that relies on "old" infrastructures of the state. Ex: algorithms used to calculate taxes, the work mobility of civil servants, allocation of students into schools, etc.

I am interested about two things :

- while algorithms are sometimes defined as innovative and somehow "new" they actually relies on "old" infrastructures. (the temporality of infrastructures) - the infrastructural capacity of the state and the way it maintain an opacity on these systems. (the attractiveness and dangers of algorithmic transparency)

Any recommendation from infrastructure studies ? critical algorithm studies ? sociology/anthropology of the state and civil services ?

Many thanks,

Loup

--

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Hello Loup, this is an article that ties artificial intelligence with an organizational perspective: https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/11/26/ai-thinks-like-a-corporatio... Regards, Xanat V. Meza Ph.D. Kansei, Behavioral and Brain SciencesUniversity of Tsukuba M.A. Media and Communication Yeungnam University B.D. Graphic Communication Design Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana El martes, 28 de mayo de 2019 5:51:13 AM GMT+9, Alex Gekker <gekker.alex@gmail.com> escribió: Hi Loup, While not exactly what you ask for, Plantin et al.'s recent paper incorporates a lot of work on traditional infrastructure and ties it to algorithms: Infrastructure studies meet platform studies in the age of Google and Facebook/ Jean-Christophe Plantin, Carl Lagoze, Paul N Edwards, Christian Sandvig https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1461444816661553 best, Alex. On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 17:21, Loup Cellard <loupcellard@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks,

Anyone can recommend readings helping in conceptualising algorithms as "old" infrastructures or "living" archives.

I am studying more particularly large-scale decision-making systems that relies on "old" infrastructures of the state. Ex: algorithms used to calculate taxes, the work mobility of civil servants, allocation of students into schools, etc.

I am interested about two things :

    - while algorithms are sometimes defined as innovative and somehow "new"     they actually relies on "old" infrastructures. (the temporality of     infrastructures)     - the infrastructural capacity of the state and the way it maintain an     opacity on these systems. (the attractiveness and dangers of algorithmic     transparency)

Any recommendation from infrastructure studies ? critical algorithm studies ? sociology/anthropology of the state and civil services ?

Many thanks,

Loup

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Hi Loup, Sorry to be late, but I think the approach of Fenwick McKelvey in his most recent book Internet Daemons really ties things nicely together, ranging from institutions, to protocols, hardware, and algorithms. https://www.internetdaemons.com/ Best, Niels On 5/28/19 1:05 PM, Wifak Gueddana wrote:

Hi Loup,

you may be interested in this paper that links infrastructure/platform and algorithms published by Prof. Paul N Edwards ' We Have Been Assimilated: Some Principles for Thinking About Algorithmic Systems' https://www.academia.edu/38274178/We_Have_Been_Assimilated_Some_Principles_f...

Best,

Wifak

On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 06:56, Xanat Meza via Air-L <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> wrote:

...

Hello Loup, this is an article that ties artificial intelligence with an organizational perspective:

https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/11/26/ai-thinks-like-a-corporatio...

Regards,

Xanat V. Meza

Ph.D. Kansei, Behavioral and Brain SciencesUniversity of Tsukuba M.A. Media and Communication Yeungnam University B.D. Graphic Communication Design Universidad Autonoma Metropolitana

El martes, 28 de mayo de 2019 5:51:13 AM GMT+9, Alex Gekker < gekker.alex@gmail.com> escribió:

Hi Loup,

While not exactly what you ask for, Plantin et al.'s recent paper incorporates a lot of work on traditional infrastructure and ties it to algorithms:

Infrastructure studies meet platform studies in the age of Google and Facebook/ Jean-Christophe Plantin, Carl Lagoze, Paul N Edwards, Christian Sandvig https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1461444816661553

best, Alex.

On Mon, 27 May 2019 at 17:21, Loup Cellard <loupcellard@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi folks,

Anyone can recommend readings helping in conceptualising algorithms as "old" infrastructures or "living" archives.

I am studying more particularly large-scale decision-making systems that relies on "old" infrastructures of the state. Ex: algorithms used to calculate taxes, the work mobility of civil servants, allocation of students into schools, etc.

I am interested about two things :

- while algorithms are sometimes defined as innovative and somehow "new" they actually relies on "old" infrastructures. (the temporality of infrastructures) - the infrastructural capacity of the state and the way it maintain an opacity on these systems. (the attractiveness and dangers of algorithmic transparency)

Any recommendation from infrastructure studies ? critical algorithm studies ? sociology/anthropology of the state and civil services ?

Many thanks,

Loup

--

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