Hi All I think Jonathan's email and Steve's reply have pretty much covered this issue - thanks J. for raising it and Steve for replying. However I want to add one more thing, just to clarify. Jonathan wrote "The problem is the requirement that a full paper be turned over to AoIR for publication on the conference site." My exact words (and I was careful about this) were that people are "expected" to provide a full copy of the paper. This was a deliberate choice of words - there is NO requirement (many other conferences do have such a requirement - I had to withdraw from one in 2002 cos I simply couldn't get a paper finished in time in written form), merely an expectation. Though *laugh* perhaps it sounded more like a legalistic version of the word 'expect'? - Anyway...just to re-assure you: no-one is required to give in their paper; but, since having an archive of papers available to members is very valuable, we do expect it. Similarly, (and guided by those on the exec who know more about IP than I do), I used the word 'archive'. This is, as far as I am concerned, not the same as publication: however someone else might be able to give a more precise ruling on the laws concerning copyright. Still, if you are in any doubt, my recommendation would be to simply tell us which publication your work will be going into and we will put those details into the archive. I hope this has cleared it up :) Cheers Matt