Chinese (or other non-Western) objections to Internet Freedom...
Hi all, It seems we're all working to get our syllabi together for next semester and the hunt for quality sources begins. I'm writing a new module on Internet Freedom and I would like to provide the students with a balanced account of objections raised by some states like China. There is plenty available from a Western perspective that critiques Chinese approaches but I want something that challenges the students to consider alternative perspectives. This might include the argument about cultural imperialism, language preservation, social cohesion etc... Could anyone point me to a good article or chapter that looks at non-Western objections to Internet Freedom in a balanced way? Thanks, Madeline Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com
Madeline, I would not assume Internet freedom is not valued by Internet users in China. Be careful not to take national policy as indicative of the values and attitudes of users. Some of our findings suggest that people in North America, for example, might be more complacent about freedom of expression online than users in the emerging nations of the new Internet world. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1916005 Our report on freedom of expression for UNESCO looked at a range or ecology of policies that are shaping freedom of expression and connection worldwide, from liability to industrial policy, etc: see: William H. Dutton, Anna Dopatka, Michael Hills, Ginette Law, and Victoria Nash (2011), Freedom of Connection – Freedom of Expression: The Changing Legal and Regulatory Ecology Shaping the Internet. Paris: UNESCO, Division for Freedom of Expression, Democracy and Peace. Reprinted in 2013; Trans. In French and Arabic. http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/resources/publica... Good luck with your course, Bill On 3 Aug 2013, at 11:49, Madeline Carr wrote:
Hi all,
It seems we're all working to get our syllabi together for next semester and the hunt for quality sources begins. I'm writing a new module on Internet Freedom and I would like to provide the students with a balanced account of objections raised by some states like China. There is plenty available from a Western perspective that critiques Chinese approaches but I want something that challenges the students to consider alternative perspectives. This might include the argument about cultural imperialism, language preservation, social cohesion etc... Could anyone point me to a good article or chapter that looks at non-Western objections to Internet Freedom in a balanced way?
Thanks,
Madeline
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In hopes this does not confuse matter, but you also noted that you want
students to critically analyse state policies and the underlying arguments that shape them.
From my perspective, insofar as "Internet freedom" (positive freedom? negative freedom? - both, I assume?) rests on specific assumptions / beliefs / hopes about the nature / characteristics of selfhood and identity (i.e., much of high modern Western notions of freedom rest on squarely individual and strongly rational notions of selfhood) - It is worth noting as well, I think, that there are strong trends towards what might be called individualization in these otherwise strongly collective societies and the relational selves they implicate. See:
Yunxiang Yan. The Chinese path to individualization. The British Journal of Sociology 61 (3: 2010): 489-512. Mette Halskov Hansen and Rune Svarverud (eds.), The Rise of the Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, 2010. As well, though I only have a conference presentation to document it - others here may well have better resources - what I find especially staggering is the introduction of _individual_ privacy rights in the constitution of the P.R.C. in the past few years: Suli Sui. The law and regulation on privacy in China. Paper presented at the Rising Pan European and International Awareness of Biometrics and Security Ethics (RISE) conference, October 20-21, 2011. Beijing, China. Cf. Graham Greenleaf, Asia-Pacific data privacy: 2011, year of revolution? UNSW Law Research Paper No. 2011-29, 2011. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1914212 There is even discussion among legal scholars in the P.R.C., I am told, of introducing due process rights - i.e., the rights that have been largely lost in the U.S. (and elsewhere) following 9/11, as the recent NSA revelations underline. Interesting world we live in. In all events, best of luck with your course! - charles ess Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/> University of Oslo P.O. Box 1093 Blindern NO-0317 Oslo Norway email: c.m.ess@media.uio.no On 03.08.13 12:49, "Madeline Carr" <madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems we're all working to get our syllabi together for next semester and the hunt for quality sources begins. I'm writing a new module on Internet Freedom and I would like to provide the students with a balanced account of objections raised by some states like China. There is plenty available from a Western perspective that critiques Chinese approaches but I want something that challenges the students to consider alternative perspectives. This might include the argument about cultural imperialism, language preservation, social cohesion etc... Could anyone point me to a good article or chapter that looks at non-Western objections to Internet Freedom in a balanced way?
Thanks,
Madeline
Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Gianluigi, thank you so much for those sources. I should have contacted you directly in the first place. Much appreciated! And Charles, you have gone to the essence of what I am interested in conveying to the students. I have only a few lectures to deal with this in the module but I want to at least *introduce *them to the complexity of debates about a) human rights and universality and b) competing notions of communitarianism and cosmopolitanism in global politics. I think that is essential for any kind of critical engagement with concepts of Internet Freedom. Fascinating work on individualism and data privacy in China, thank you Charles. I was not aware of those legal developments, though I guess you are, Gianluigi? Interesting times, indeed. Madeline Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com On 5 August 2013 06:32, Charles Ess <charles.ess@gmail.com> wrote:
In hopes this does not confuse matter, but you also noted that you want
students to critically analyse state policies and the underlying arguments that shape them.
From my perspective, insofar as "Internet freedom" (positive freedom? negative freedom? - both, I assume?) rests on specific assumptions / beliefs / hopes about the nature / characteristics of selfhood and identity (i.e., much of high modern Western notions of freedom rest on squarely individual and strongly rational notions of selfhood) - It is worth noting as well, I think, that there are strong trends towards what might be called individualization in these otherwise strongly collective societies and the relational selves they implicate. See:
Yunxiang Yan. The Chinese path to individualization. The British Journal of Sociology 61 (3: 2010): 489-512. Mette Halskov Hansen and Rune Svarverud (eds.), The Rise of the Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, 2010.
As well, though I only have a conference presentation to document it - others here may well have better resources - what I find especially staggering is the introduction of _individual_ privacy rights in the constitution of the P.R.C. in the past few years:
Suli Sui. The law and regulation on privacy in China. Paper presented at the Rising Pan European and International Awareness of Biometrics and Security Ethics (RISE) conference, October 20-21, 2011. Beijing, China.
Cf. Graham Greenleaf, Asia-Pacific data privacy: 2011, year of revolution? UNSW Law Research Paper No. 2011-29, 2011. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1914212
There is even discussion among legal scholars in the P.R.C., I am told, of introducing due process rights - i.e., the rights that have been largely lost in the U.S. (and elsewhere) following 9/11, as the recent NSA revelations underline.
Interesting world we live in. In all events, best of luck with your course!
- charles ess
Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication
Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/>
University of Oslo P.O. Box 1093 Blindern NO-0317 Oslo Norway email: c.m.ess@media.uio.no
On 03.08.13 12:49, "Madeline Carr" <madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems we're all working to get our syllabi together for next semester and the hunt for quality sources begins. I'm writing a new module on Internet Freedom and I would like to provide the students with a balanced account of objections raised by some states like China. There is plenty available from a Western perspective that critiques Chinese approaches but I want something that challenges the students to consider alternative perspectives. This might include the argument about cultural imperialism, language preservation, social cohesion etc... Could anyone point me to a good article or chapter that looks at non-Western objections to Internet Freedom in a balanced way?
Thanks,
Madeline
Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Dear Medealine I am sure that you already familiar with the Asian Values, unfortunately my readings about this topic are quite out of date. * Theodore De Bary Asian Values and Human Rights: A Confucian Communitarian Perspective Willia, Harvard University Press (1998) * Bauer, J. -Bell, D.A. The East Asian Challenge for Human Rights, Cambridge 1999. * Cauquelin, J.- Lim, P.- Mayer-König, B. , Asian Values. Encounters with Diversity, Richmond, Surrey 2000 * Langguth Gerd, Asian values revisited, Asia Europe Journal, Feb. 2003 Vol. 1 Issue 1 pp 25-42 Thanks to Charles for the references, I do not know if 2011 can be considered the year of revolution. From a legal perspective individual privacy rights are limited by the 'state security', on the other hand the failure of projects like the real name implementation show how the Chinese legal system is gradually shifting form the 'rule by law' to to 'rule of law'. Hope to share with you a paper that should be published by the end of September. Best Gigi Gianluigi Negro - PhD Candidate University of Lugano - Faculty of Communication Sciences Institute of Media and Journalism (IMeG 210.1) Via Buffi, 13 6904 Lugano - CH Tel. Office: +41(0)586664510 Mobile +393803147098 www.cineresie.info<http://www.cineresie.info> Twitter giginegro<http://twitter.com/giginegro> Linkedin gianluiginegro<http://it.linkedin.com/in/gianluiginegro> Skype Gianluigi Negro ________________________________ Da: madelinemcarr@gmail.com [madelinemcarr@gmail.com] per conto di Madeline Carr [madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk] Inviato: lunedì 5 agosto 2013 11.46 A: Charles Ess Cc: Air list; Negro Gianluigi Oggetto: Re: [Air-L] Chinese (or other non-Western) objections to Internet Freedom... Gianluigi, thank you so much for those sources. I should have contacted you directly in the first place. Much appreciated! And Charles, you have gone to the essence of what I am interested in conveying to the students. I have only a few lectures to deal with this in the module but I want to at least introduce them to the complexity of debates about a) human rights and universality and b) competing notions of communitarianism and cosmopolitanism in global politics. I think that is essential for any kind of critical engagement with concepts of Internet Freedom. Fascinating work on individualism and data privacy in China, thank you Charles. I was not aware of those legal developments, though I guess you are, Gianluigi? Interesting times, indeed. Madeline Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com<mailto:madelinemcarr@gmail.com> On 5 August 2013 06:32, Charles Ess <charles.ess@gmail.com<mailto:charles.ess@gmail.com>> wrote: In hopes this does not confuse matter, but you also noted that you want
students to critically analyse state policies and the underlying arguments that shape them.
From my perspective, insofar as "Internet freedom" (positive freedom? negative freedom? - both, I assume?) rests on specific assumptions / beliefs / hopes about the nature / characteristics of selfhood and identity (i.e., much of high modern Western notions of freedom rest on squarely individual and strongly rational notions of selfhood) - It is worth noting as well, I think, that there are strong trends towards what might be called individualization in these otherwise strongly collective societies and the relational selves they implicate. See:
Yunxiang Yan. The Chinese path to individualization. The British Journal of Sociology 61 (3: 2010): 489-512. Mette Halskov Hansen and Rune Svarverud (eds.), The Rise of the Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, 2010. As well, though I only have a conference presentation to document it - others here may well have better resources - what I find especially staggering is the introduction of _individual_ privacy rights in the constitution of the P.R.C. in the past few years: Suli Sui. The law and regulation on privacy in China. Paper presented at the Rising Pan European and International Awareness of Biometrics and Security Ethics (RISE) conference, October 20-21, 2011. Beijing, China. Cf. Graham Greenleaf, Asia-Pacific data privacy: 2011, year of revolution? UNSW Law Research Paper No. 2011-29, 2011. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1914212 There is even discussion among legal scholars in the P.R.C., I am told, of introducing due process rights - i.e., the rights that have been largely lost in the U.S. (and elsewhere) following 9/11, as the recent NSA revelations underline. Interesting world we live in. In all events, best of luck with your course! - charles ess Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/> University of Oslo P.O. Box 1093 Blindern NO-0317 Oslo Norway email: c.m.ess@media.uio.no<mailto:c.m.ess@media.uio.no> On 03.08.13 12:49, "Madeline Carr" <madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk<mailto:madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems we're all working to get our syllabi together for next semester and the hunt for quality sources begins. I'm writing a new module on Internet Freedom and I would like to provide the students with a balanced account of objections raised by some states like China. There is plenty available from a Western perspective that critiques Chinese approaches but I want something that challenges the students to consider alternative perspectives. This might include the argument about cultural imperialism, language preservation, social cohesion etc... Could anyone point me to a good article or chapter that looks at non-Western objections to Internet Freedom in a balanced way?
Thanks,
Madeline
Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com<mailto:madelinemcarr@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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OK, you have enough, but also: Jack Linchuan Qui (2013), 'Network Societies and Internet Studies: Rethinking Time, Space, and Class', pp. 109-28 in Dutton. W. H. (ed.), The Oxford Handbook of Internet Studies. Oxford: Oxford University Press. On 6 Aug 2013, at 08:41, Gianluigi Negro wrote:
Dear Medealine
I am sure that you already familiar with the Asian Values, unfortunately my readings about this topic are quite out of date.
* Theodore De Bary Asian Values and Human Rights: A Confucian Communitarian Perspective Willia, Harvard University Press (1998) * Bauer, J. -Bell, D.A. The East Asian Challenge for Human Rights, Cambridge 1999. * Cauquelin, J.- Lim, P.- Mayer-König, B. , Asian Values. Encounters with Diversity, Richmond, Surrey 2000 * Langguth Gerd, Asian values revisited, Asia Europe Journal, Feb. 2003 Vol. 1 Issue 1 pp 25-42
Thanks to Charles for the references, I do not know if 2011 can be considered the year of revolution. From a legal perspective individual privacy rights are limited by the 'state security', on the other hand the failure of projects like the real name implementation show how the Chinese legal system is gradually shifting form the 'rule by law' to to 'rule of law'. Hope to share with you a paper that should be published by the end of September.
Best Gigi
Gianluigi Negro - PhD Candidate University of Lugano - Faculty of Communication Sciences Institute of Media and Journalism (IMeG 210.1) Via Buffi, 13 6904 Lugano - CH
Tel. Office: +41(0)586664510 Mobile +393803147098
www.cineresie.info<http://www.cineresie.info> Twitter giginegro<http://twitter.com/giginegro> Linkedin gianluiginegro<http://it.linkedin.com/in/gianluiginegro>
Skype Gianluigi Negro ________________________________ Da: madelinemcarr@gmail.com [madelinemcarr@gmail.com] per conto di Madeline Carr [madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk] Inviato: lunedì 5 agosto 2013 11.46 A: Charles Ess Cc: Air list; Negro Gianluigi Oggetto: Re: [Air-L] Chinese (or other non-Western) objections to Internet Freedom...
Gianluigi, thank you so much for those sources. I should have contacted you directly in the first place. Much appreciated!
And Charles, you have gone to the essence of what I am interested in conveying to the students. I have only a few lectures to deal with this in the module but I want to at least introduce them to the complexity of debates about a) human rights and universality and b) competing notions of communitarianism and cosmopolitanism in global politics. I think that is essential for any kind of critical engagement with concepts of Internet Freedom.
Fascinating work on individualism and data privacy in China, thank you Charles. I was not aware of those legal developments, though I guess you are, Gianluigi?
Interesting times, indeed.
Madeline
Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com<mailto:madelinemcarr@gmail.com>
On 5 August 2013 06:32, Charles Ess <charles.ess@gmail.com<mailto:charles.ess@gmail.com>> wrote: In hopes this does not confuse matter, but you also noted that you want
students to critically analyse state policies and the underlying arguments that shape them.
From my perspective, insofar as "Internet freedom" (positive freedom? negative freedom? - both, I assume?) rests on specific assumptions / beliefs / hopes about the nature / characteristics of selfhood and identity (i.e., much of high modern Western notions of freedom rest on squarely individual and strongly rational notions of selfhood) - It is worth noting as well, I think, that there are strong trends towards what might be called individualization in these otherwise strongly collective societies and the relational selves they implicate. See:
Yunxiang Yan. The Chinese path to individualization. The British Journal of Sociology 61 (3: 2010): 489-512. Mette Halskov Hansen and Rune Svarverud (eds.), The Rise of the Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of Asian Studies, 2010.
As well, though I only have a conference presentation to document it - others here may well have better resources - what I find especially staggering is the introduction of _individual_ privacy rights in the constitution of the P.R.C. in the past few years:
Suli Sui. The law and regulation on privacy in China. Paper presented at the Rising Pan European and International Awareness of Biometrics and Security Ethics (RISE) conference, October 20-21, 2011. Beijing, China.
Cf. Graham Greenleaf, Asia-Pacific data privacy: 2011, year of revolution? UNSW Law Research Paper No. 2011-29, 2011. http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1914212
There is even discussion among legal scholars in the P.R.C., I am told, of introducing due process rights - i.e., the rights that have been largely lost in the U.S. (and elsewhere) following 9/11, as the recent NSA revelations underline.
Interesting world we live in. In all events, best of luck with your course!
- charles ess
Professor in Media Studies Department of Media and Communication
Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/>
University of Oslo P.O. Box 1093 Blindern NO-0317 Oslo Norway email: c.m.ess@media.uio.no<mailto:c.m.ess@media.uio.no>
On 03.08.13 12:49, "Madeline Carr" <madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk<mailto:madeline.carr@aber.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi all,
It seems we're all working to get our syllabi together for next semester and the hunt for quality sources begins. I'm writing a new module on Internet Freedom and I would like to provide the students with a balanced account of objections raised by some states like China. There is plenty available from a Western perspective that critiques Chinese approaches but I want something that challenges the students to consider alternative perspectives. This might include the argument about cultural imperialism, language preservation, social cohesion etc... Could anyone point me to a good article or chapter that looks at non-Western objections to Internet Freedom in a balanced way?
Thanks,
Madeline
Dr. Madeline Carr Lecturer in International Politics and the Cyber Dimension Department of International Politics Aberystwyth University Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3FE Wales +44 01970 621955 mob: 0752 867 2088 madelinemcarr@gmail.com<mailto:madelinemcarr@gmail.com> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org<mailto:Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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