Hi everyone, I guess I am one of the lurkers on the listserv, but here goes my first contribution: Buzz. If you have used the new google social network service, how do you feel about the seeming violation of privacy? A few days ago, I decline my Gmail's insistence on adding trying the new feature/service. Now, the New York Times has a great article (Critics Say Google Invades Privacy with New Service: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html) on how users' rights to privacy appear to have been violated. The article raises the interesting question of how totalitarian regimes may use the service to suppress political dissent. Google's rhetoric and carefully constructed image following its row with China is put to test. Anyway, I am curious as to how AIR members have found the feature with regard to both privacy and security. Cheers, Aziz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aziz Douai, Ph.D. Assistant Professor, Communication Program Faculty of Criminology, Justice and Policy Studies University of Ontario Institute of Technology 2000 Simcoe Street North Oshawa, ON L1H 7K4 E-mail: aziz.douai@uoit.ca/ azizdouai@gmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A popular government without popular information, or the means of acquiring it, is but a prologue to a farce or a tragedy, or perhaps both." James Madison, 1822 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I have not used Buzz (I don't use Gmail for that matter) but on principle, as an information security person, I am concerned with what I'm hearing regarding how Google rolled Buzz out to the world. Does it raise privacy concerns both in totalitarian regimes and elsewhere, to include 'regular' Net users who may already manage their privacy and suddenly "got burned" by Buzz? You bet. I would have liked to know they rolled it out and required folks to opt-in, rather than automatically enable it for everyone. -rick On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Aziz Douai wrote:
Hi everyone,
I guess I am one of the lurkers on the listserv, but here goes my first contribution: Buzz. If you have used the new google social network service, how do you feel about the seeming violation of privacy? A few days ago, I decline my Gmail's insistence on adding trying the new feature/service. Now, the New York Times has a great article (Critics Say Google Invades Privacy with New Service: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html) on how users' rights to privacy appear to have been violated. The article raises the interesting question of how totalitarian regimes may use the service to suppress political dissent. Google's rhetoric and carefully constructed image following its row with China is put to test.
Anyway, I am curious as to how AIR members have found the feature with regard to both privacy and security.
Cheers,
Aziz
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I think Buzz is an interesting new phenomenon. I find interesting about the NY Times article and the reactions of some users to Buzz that they primarily stress the danger that China, Iran, etc could use Buzz for engaging in the (political) surveillance of political oppositionists and that they label such endeavaours totalitarian, while at the same time they do not provide a critique of the economic surveillance machine constituted by Google's expanding services, its collection, storage, analysis, and commodification of personal data, and its market dominance. Surveillance and Big brother are not only somewhere out there in China or Iran, they are also present in the heart of capitalism itself - in the form of economic surveillance, and Google is one of its primary executors. Buzz privacy policy for example says: "When you use Google Buzz, we may record information about your use of the product, such as the posts that you like or comment on and the other users who you communicate with. This is to provide you with a better experience on Buzz and other Google services and to improve the quality of Google services" "If you use Google Buzz on a mobile device and choose to view "nearby" posts, your location will be collected by Google." The task is to collect as many data about users and to then to sell this data as commodity to advertising clients. Google fears the competition by Facebook and Twitter in the social networking market, and so has set up its own service (although I doubt that I will be so successful because until now it only supports rather trivial functions). To only focus on the political surveillance capabilities that Buzz provides for some non-Western societies and to ignore the immanence of economic surveillance, is a form od Digital Orientalism that is ideologically blind for the forms of stratification that are at the heart of Western economies. Cheers, Christian
On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Aziz Douai wrote:
Hi everyone,
I guess I am one of the lurkers on the listserv, but here goes my first contribution: Buzz. If you have used the new google social network service, how do you feel about the seeming violation of privacy? A few days ago, I decline my Gmail's insistence on adding trying the new feature/service. Now, the New York Times has a great article (Critics Say Google Invades Privacy with New Service: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html) on how users' rights to privacy appear to have been violated. The article raises the interesting question of how totalitarian regimes may use the service to suppress political dissent. Google's rhetoric and carefully constructed image following its row with China is put to test.
Anyway, I am curious as to how AIR members have found the feature with regard to both privacy and security.
Cheers,
Aziz
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I agree .... again, while I don't use Gmail or Facebook, etc......I am more concerned with the personal privacy "violation" to/for friends than I am anything having to to with a state government. Why? Because i presume that anything I do/say in cyberspace, or has the possibility to transit through or exist on a server/service that I don't have positive control over, potentially can be intercepted or compromised for any number of legitimate or nefarious purposes. That reality is not something one should fear only in totalitarian societiies, by the way. That said, to me, the more sinister "motive" is what Christian talks about: economic exploitation -- but I certainly acknowledge and appreciate those with political concerns here as well. It's also one of the reasons I've been slow to embrace things like Facebook (I don't) and only recently began dabbling with Twitter and LinkedIn. Put bluntly, I just don't like the idea of a for-profit entity knowing my social network, which can be used for marketing or other purposes that I may not appreciate or agree with. Am I paranoid? Perhaps. But I am under no obligation to use these services, so if I chose 'not to play' it's no big deal for me .... even though many of my friends would love it if I joined them on Facebook. ;) -rf On Feb 13, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Christian Fuchs wrote:
I think Buzz is an interesting new phenomenon.
I find interesting about the NY Times article and the reactions of some users to Buzz that they primarily stress the danger that China, Iran, etc could use Buzz for engaging in the (political) surveillance of political oppositionists and that they label such endeavaours totalitarian, while at the same time they do not provide a critique of the economic surveillance machine constituted by Google's expanding services, its collection, storage, analysis, and commodification of personal data, and its market dominance.
Surveillance and Big brother are not only somewhere out there in China or Iran, they are also present in the heart of capitalism itself - in the form of economic surveillance, and Google is one of its primary executors.
Buzz privacy policy for example says: "When you use Google Buzz, we may record information about your use of the product, such as the posts that you like or comment on and the other users who you communicate with. This is to provide you with a better experience on Buzz and other Google services and to improve the quality of Google services" "If you use Google Buzz on a mobile device and choose to view "nearby" posts, your location will be collected by Google."
The task is to collect as many data about users and to then to sell this data as commodity to advertising clients. Google fears the competition by Facebook and Twitter in the social networking market, and so has set up its own service (although I doubt that I will be so successful because until now it only supports rather trivial functions).
To only focus on the political surveillance capabilities that Buzz provides for some non-Western societies and to ignore the immanence of economic surveillance, is a form od Digital Orientalism that is ideologically blind for the forms of stratification that are at the heart of Western economies.
Cheers, Christian
On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Aziz Douai wrote:
Hi everyone,
I guess I am one of the lurkers on the listserv, but here goes my first contribution: Buzz. If you have used the new google social network service, how do you feel about the seeming violation of privacy? A few days ago, I decline my Gmail's insistence on adding trying the new feature/service. Now, the New York Times has a great article (Critics Say Google Invades Privacy with New Service: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html) on how users' rights to privacy appear to have been violated. The article raises the interesting question of how totalitarian regimes may use the service to suppress political dissent. Google's rhetoric and carefully constructed image following its row with China is put to test.
Anyway, I am curious as to how AIR members have found the feature with regard to both privacy and security.
Cheers,
Aziz
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Or, to put it in the terms I draw from Niel Postman's contrast between Orwellian and Huxleyan visions of dystopia - we are in love with the technologies of our enslavement (in part, because they threaten to undo our capacity to think - in the ways critical for liberal democracy). Bit of a problem (pun intended). - charles On 2/14/10 2:38 AM, "Richard Forno" <rforno@infowarrior.org> wrote:
I agree .... again, while I don't use Gmail or Facebook, etc......I am more concerned with the personal privacy "violation" to/for friends than I am anything having to to with a state government. Why? Because i presume that anything I do/say in cyberspace, or has the possibility to transit through or exist on a server/service that I don't have positive control over, potentially can be intercepted or compromised for any number of legitimate or nefarious purposes. That reality is not something one should fear only in totalitarian societiies, by the way.
That said, to me, the more sinister "motive" is what Christian talks about: economic exploitation -- but I certainly acknowledge and appreciate those with political concerns here as well. It's also one of the reasons I've been slow to embrace things like Facebook (I don't) and only recently began dabbling with Twitter and LinkedIn. Put bluntly, I just don't like the idea of a for-profit entity knowing my social network, which can be used for marketing or other purposes that I may not appreciate or agree with. Am I paranoid? Perhaps. But I am under no obligation to use these services, so if I chose 'not to play' it's no big deal for me .... even though many of my friends would love it if I joined them on Facebook. ;)
-rf
On Feb 13, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Christian Fuchs wrote:
I think Buzz is an interesting new phenomenon.
I find interesting about the NY Times article and the reactions of some users to Buzz that they primarily stress the danger that China, Iran, etc could use Buzz for engaging in the (political) surveillance of political oppositionists and that they label such endeavaours totalitarian, while at the same time they do not provide a critique of the economic surveillance machine constituted by Google's expanding services, its collection, storage, analysis, and commodification of personal data, and its market dominance.
Surveillance and Big brother are not only somewhere out there in China or Iran, they are also present in the heart of capitalism itself - in the form of economic surveillance, and Google is one of its primary executors.
Buzz privacy policy for example says: "When you use Google Buzz, we may record information about your use of the product, such as the posts that you like or comment on and the other users who you communicate with. This is to provide you with a better experience on Buzz and other Google services and to improve the quality of Google services" "If you use Google Buzz on a mobile device and choose to view "nearby" posts, your location will be collected by Google."
The task is to collect as many data about users and to then to sell this data as commodity to advertising clients. Google fears the competition by Facebook and Twitter in the social networking market, and so has set up its own service (although I doubt that I will be so successful because until now it only supports rather trivial functions).
To only focus on the political surveillance capabilities that Buzz provides for some non-Western societies and to ignore the immanence of economic surveillance, is a form od Digital Orientalism that is ideologically blind for the forms of stratification that are at the heart of Western economies.
Cheers, Christian
On Feb 13, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Aziz Douai wrote:
Hi everyone,
I guess I am one of the lurkers on the listserv, but here goes my first contribution: Buzz. If you have used the new google social network service, how do you feel about the seeming violation of privacy? A few days ago, I decline my Gmail's insistence on adding trying the new feature/service. Now, the New York Times has a great article (Critics Say Google Invades Privacy with New Service: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html) on how users' rights to privacy appear to have been violated. The article raises the interesting question of how totalitarian regimes may use the service to suppress political dissent. Google's rhetoric and carefully constructed image following its row with China is put to test.
Anyway, I am curious as to how AIR members have found the feature with regard to both privacy and security.
Cheers,
Aziz
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Hello all, I am looking for some simple exercises that can illustrate social network analysis. I am thinking more of the "real life" versions of social networks that probabaly also bleed over into the virtual ones. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Rich Ling
Hello, I ask the students to indicate who of their classmates they spend time with (outside class) and who of them is their friend on facebook. So you have two different networks, sometimes overlapping. It's plain, but they usually like to confront their online and offline lifes. mc On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:46 PM, <richard.ling@telenor.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking for some simple exercises that can illustrate social network analysis. I am thinking more of the "real life" versions of social networks that probabaly also bleed over into the virtual ones.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Rich Ling
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Rich, I'm editing a book with Ben Shneiderman and Marc Smith on using NodeXL to study social media networks. While the emphasis is on social media networks (we have chapters on Facebook, Twitter, Wikis, Email networks, etc.), the tutorial section includes a few datasets that are not social media such as the US 2007 Senate co-voting network and the network of co-appearances of characters in Victor Hugo's book Les Miserables. Let me know if any of those are useful and I can send them your way. Derek Hansen Maryland's iSchool On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Matteo Cantamesse <matteo.cantamesse@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I ask the students to indicate who of their classmates they spend time with (outside class) and who of them is their friend on facebook.
So you have two different networks, sometimes overlapping.
It's plain, but they usually like to confront their online and offline lifes.
mc
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:46 PM, <richard.ling@telenor.com> wrote:
Hello all,
I am looking for some simple exercises that can illustrate social network analysis. I am thinking more of the "real life" versions of social networks that probabaly also bleed over into the virtual ones.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Rich Ling
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Richard - I use a simple six degrees exercise in my lecture, "What the )*(&)(*&)(*& is internet research?" by simply noting how many hops it takes for me to get to various personages around the world (it turns out that I *could* connect to the former Sadam Hussein in five hops! - not that I would want to) to point out my connectivity of the world and the proof of Milgram's "small world" exercise. Milgram, S. (1967). "The small world problem." Psychology Today 2: 60-67. There is also script for a play, but I don't suppose students would take to reading out a script in class? It might be fun, though . . . John Guare "Six Degrees of Separation: a Play" 1st Vintage Books Ed edition (November 14, 1990) which illustrates social connectivity. Not sure if this is what you are looking for? Cheers, Denise Denise N. Rall, PhD. Special Projects, Faculty of Arts & Science, Southern Cross University, Lismore NSW 2480 AUSTRALIA Mobile +(61) (0)438 233 344 http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/esm/staff/pages/drall/ "Darker Shades of Royal" Exhibition Opening SAT 27 Feb. 2 PM Northern Rivers Community Arts Gallery, 44 Cherry Street, Ballina NSW 2478 --- On Mon, 15/2/10, richard.ling@telenor.com <richard.ling@telenor.com> wrote:
From: richard.ling@telenor.com <richard.ling@telenor.com> Subject: [Air-L] In-class exercises to illustrate social networks (Not just virtual ones). . . To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Received: Monday, 15 February, 2010, 4:46 AM Hello all,
I am looking for some simple exercises that can illustrate social network analysis. I am thinking more of the "real life" versions of social networks that probabaly also bleed over into the virtual ones.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Rich Ling
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I teach a class on social media and a student group gave everyone in the classroom a fake mini-profile printed on paper, with an identity, and a need/task to complete. Then students had to ask those they know better or those sitting next to them whether they can provide the thing they need according to the mini profile. Then they could ask further, beyond their immediate circle. The first match wins and the class discussed how many hops it took to find a match (hint: the profiles and needs/tasks were generally humorous). We've tried many such offline experiments in class, w.r.t. social tagging, online self-presentation, etc., with some being more successful than others. They were not specifically intended to illustrate SNA methods, but rather to illustrate principles and uses of social networks. Hope this is helpful Giorgos Giorgos Cheliotis Assistant Professor Communications and New Media Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences National University of Singapore
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Hello all,
I am looking for some simple exercises that can illustrate social network analysis. I am thinking more of the "real life" versions of social networks that probabaly also bleed over into the virtual ones.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Rich Ling
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