Using Online Citations to Defunct Web Sites
Dear Ed and Jeremy, The sometimes ephemeral nature of Web sites is indicated by the fact that all known citation systems require a statement of accessed date. To my way of thinking, that fact is clear. As I see it, the facts of Web citation are plain on their face. They do not require a preamble. In a sense, a Web site is much like the transcript of an interview or a journal of field notes. One must trust to the scholarly and scientific probity of the researcher. If he or she fails to develop the evidence properly, the fault lies with the scholar. The Web site itself is as relevant or irrelevant as a series of notes taken at a New England town meeting, a transcript of overheard street corner conversations, or a diary of research notes taken in an archive that vanishes when the building holding it burns. The real question is the form in which a researcher ought properly to document a Web site used in research. I assume that some sites will vanish. If I use a citation that is of merely passing interest to a larger topic, I don't do more than cite. When the Web site itself is the object of inquiry, I print out images of the relevant pages. If there is some reason to question the credibility, care or veracity of a scholar, then I'd question the entire submission. If all else seems in order, I'd accept the missing Web material in the same way that I'd allow a reference to a public ex tempore speech unrecorded except in the notes of the scholar. Best regards, Ken -- Ken Friedman, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Leadership and Strategic Design Department of Leadership and Organization Norwegian School of Management Visiting Professor Advanced Research Institute School of Art and Design Staffordshire University
Ken Friedman wrote:
Dear Ed and Jeremy,
The sometimes ephemeral nature of Web sites is indicated by the fact that all known citation systems require a statement of accessed date.
To my way of thinking, that fact is clear. As I see it, the facts of Web citation are plain on their face. They do not require a preamble.
the reason for the preamble in my mind is to tell them that if you cannot find them where I cite them, you might be able to find them by using the archive instead.
When the Web site itself is the object of inquiry, I print out images of the relevant pages.
while this is a tactic that one can use, I think it really is a waste of resources to a great extent. I do not support the effort of making personal copies of everything on the web that people use or cite. Memory is cheap, that is true, effort is not, parsing data and knowledge is not, etc. I'd much prefer to rely on large archives, and if something disappears, as things do, books disappear and so do articles, they get lost, they will either reappear eventually somewhere or they will be traces of what was. In either case, that they are gone is not a real problem to me. I trust in people and the broader corpus, not the individual document.
If there is some reason to question the credibility, care or veracity of a scholar, then I'd question the entire submission. If all else seems in order, I'd accept the missing Web material in the same way that I'd allow a reference to a public ex tempore speech unrecorded except in the notes of the scholar.
I agree with this standpoint.
Best regards,
Ken
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thanks to all who offered very helpful insights into this issue/problem. I'll be working with our editorial board to fine tune our procedures and your advice will be very helpful. Edward Lee Lamoureux, Ph. D. Associate Professor, Speech Communication and Multimedia Editor, Journal of Communication and Religion Bradley University Peoria IL 61625 ell@bradley.edu http://hilltop.bradley.edu/~ell Fax: 309-677-3446
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