we need a new word?
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA). And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS). What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness. So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word. Barry _____________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 To network is to live; to live is to network _____________________________________________________________________
I'm inclined to call these communications technologies, just that ICT's, sometimes when I am a bit adventurous, I might venture social media, sociable media or network technologies. but.. they certainly aren't new media anymore, though the genre of new media still exists. e-media would just be electronic media, which is more or less all media in some respects. On Mar 19, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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I am definitely looking forward to this discussion. I've rather liked "CMC" but you're right Barry, no one wants to have to explain that acronym - it's such a workout. But I think you have to specify the breadth of applications you want the term to cover - I like "CTs"/"ICTs", but to me that also includes phones/cell phones, which if you're strictly talking about internet/online media you'll have to qualify yet again: "internet/online CTs." Explaining the CTs/ICTs acronym is also a bit cumbersome. [Though this seems the be the case with all of the basic descriptive terms - "electronic," "technology," "communication," etc. Start putting any of them together and you get a mouth/screenful. Not that this has been a problem for scholarship before...e.g., whoever coined "PoMo" was a genius...] I also realize the lines between such technologies are blurry-blurring, which makes this task really difficult. But if you're talking about the internet(s), I'm inclined to work "online" into it somehow, at the risk of invoking a dubious "online-offline" distinction. LS On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:45:48 -0500 jeremy hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
I'm inclined to call these communications technologies, just that ICT's, sometimes when I am a bit adventurous, I might venture social media, sociable media or network technologies. but.. they certainly aren't new media anymore, though the genre of new media still exists. e-media would just be electronic media, which is more or less all media in some respects. On Mar 19, 2005, at 10:44 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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On 20/3/05 1:45 AM, "jeremy hunsinger" <jhuns@vt.edu> wrote:
I'm inclined to call these communications technologies, just that ICT's, sometimes when I am a bit adventurous, I might venture social media, sociable media or network technologies. but.. they certainly aren't new media anymore, though the genre of new media still exists.
"Not new" for whom? And I don't mean just outside 'developed' countries - I've consistently been amazed by the complete newness and downright illegibility of say, the cultures of mailing lists, or blogging, for high-achieving undergraduate students in all kinds of related fields (media studies, cultural studies, even business and communications). Another 2 cents: as someone sugggested, all these terms (Internet, new media, ICTs) overlap but are not interchangeable - they all have their uses, but 'internet' doesn't actually encompass everything that 'new media' does (which might be concerned with, say, the convergence of TV, internet and mobile phones, etc), and vice versa; same with ICTs. I was using 'digital culture' instead of 'new media' for a while - but reverted to new media because I had to keep explaining what I meant all the time. Jean -- Jean Burgess PhD Candidate Creative Industries Research and Applications Centre (CIRAC) Z1-515, Creative Industries Precinct Queensland University of Technology Victoria Park Road, Kelvin Grove, QLD 4059 Phone: +617 3864 3818 Mobile: 0401 733 755 QUT CRICOS 00213J Reviews editor, International Journal of Cultural Studies Postgraduate representative, Cultural Studies Association of Australasia
Barry Wellman wrote:
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
When in the U.S., Barry, you can always follow the lead of our illustrious leader and use the term, "internets." -- Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. Asst. Professor of Communication/Linguistics, Luther College, Decorah, Iowa http://faculty.luther.edu/~johnsmar/ ----------------------------------------------- "Get the facts first. You can distort them later." ---Mark Twain
Hi Barry, all, imho we shouldn't attempt to find *one* new word for a conglomerate of different services, concepts, and psycho-socio-technological spheres. The (Inter)net/media/cmc/it world grew out of its formerly somewhat clearly definable pot and became a landscape of interwoven plants and other organisms. Only we're still used to being able to talk about it in terms of "the pot". It is the increasing frequency of moments of experiences like Barry's that suddenly yet steadily make us aware of a changing paradigm... Let's differentiate, identify, and regroup our terminological entities! Greetings from Zurich, --u At 10:44 Uhr -0500 19.3.2005, Barry Wellman wrote:
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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Agreed. We don't need "a" new word, or a "new" word, or a singular word. We should each pick different words, probably from among the many already existing ones, depending on our interests and tasks. Words don't have essential meanings, and meanings aren't constant. Language is fluid, and contextual. Any of the suggestions thus far might suffice for particular purposes, but not others. -eg
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Ulf-Dietrich Reips Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:33 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org; aoir list Subject: Re: [Air-l] we need a new word?
Hi Barry, all, imho we shouldn't attempt to find *one* new word for a conglomerate of different services, concepts, and psycho-socio-technological spheres. The (Inter)net/media/cmc/it world grew out of its formerly somewhat clearly definable pot and became a landscape of interwoven plants and other organisms. Only we're still used to being able to talk about it in terms of "the pot". It is the increasing frequency of moments of experiences like Barry's that suddenly yet steadily make us aware of a changing paradigm...
Let's differentiate, identify, and regroup our terminological entities!
Greetings from Zurich, --u
At 10:44 Uhr -0500 19.3.2005, Barry Wellman wrote:
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry
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I think there is a misunderstanding of the term "Internet". What would a new word be except something else? Here is a rather old graphic about what the Internet means - an inter-connection of computer based networks (with or without end-user appliances) using any kind of communication protocol: http://www.december.com/web/text/images/cyberland.gif To read more: http://www.isoc.org/internet/history/ Best, Laurent --- Mag. Laurent Straskraba Information Society Researcher post: Ontlstrasse 3, A - 4040 Linz, Austria / Europe mobile: +43.650.7711861 (GMT +1) e-mail: laurent@straskraba.net web: http://www.straskraba.net ---
Ellis, On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:38:26 -0800, "Ellis Godard" <egodard@csun.edu> said:
We should each pick different words, probably from among the many already existing ones, depending on our interests and tasks. Words don't have essential meanings, and meanings aren't constant. Language is fluid, and contextual. Any of the suggestions thus far might suffice for particular purposes, but not others.
this may be a stupid question, but if we all use whatever different word we individually prefer to denote one and the same referent, how can we talk to each other about that referent without constantly talking past each other? Reuven Shlozberg Political Science University of Toronto
The problem is your premise of "one and the same referent". The idea that we're all talking about the same thing is the problem, not the solution. The search to pick one (new?) word enhances, rather than resolves, this confusion. Some are interested in digital media, others in communications technology; some in communications, and others in unidirectional services as well; some in Internet-based services, and others in Internet technologies themselves; some in computer-mediated technologies or activities, and others in non- or supra-computer technologies or activities; some in "new" media, and others in any media. Even for those talking about the same technology(ies), or service(s), or activity(ies), interests vary widely. Me? I'm not interested in technologies or services per se, but in what people do with them. The umbrellas of AoIR and CITASA are intentionally, and justifiably, broad. That doesn't mean we're talking past each other. But pretending we have a same referent ensures that we will. -eg
this may be a stupid question, but if we all use whatever different word we individually prefer to denote one and the same referent, how can we talk to each other about that referent without constantly talking past each other?
Reuven Shlozberg Political Science University of Toronto
To complicate this matter a little more, what about mobility? How can i describe SMSing as CMC? Yet, why on earth would i put it under a different category than IMing? And is SMSing Internet? Not by any mainstream understanding. All too often our definitions are driven by the technologies, the infrastructure and not the practices. And then when technology changes we go uh oh. I really liked Genevieve Bell's discussion of how what some countries call a mobile phone, others call a cell phone and still others call a hand phone. Finally, some countries are starting to talk about phones (i.e. the mobile) and landlines. Think about those different approaches. And why should it not surprise anyone that the only country that talks about cell towers is the US (and the US annex ::wink:: Barry)? That said what interests me most about definitional questions is how it sends everyone into a tizzy. I live between three worlds who are determined to out-termify each other: social computing, social software, CMC/groupware. It's honestly hysterical. I've decided to stop throwing hissy fits that the terms they are using are problematic and actually really consider how the developments that each claim as their own are actually different. Not surprisingly, the answer is not technology but practice (both in design and usage). If we want to talk terms, perhaps we should actually think about the practices instead of the technology or infrastructure because they're going to change more in 10 years than the dominant practices. danah On Sat, 19 Mar 2005, Ulf-Dietrich Reips wrote:
Hi Barry, all, imho we shouldn't attempt to find *one* new word for a conglomerate of different services, concepts, and psycho-socio-technological spheres. The (Inter)net/media/cmc/it world grew out of its formerly somewhat clearly definable pot and became a landscape of interwoven plants and other organisms. Only we're still used to being able to talk about it in terms of "the pot". It is the increasing frequency of moments of experiences like Barry's that suddenly yet steadily make us aware of a changing paradigm...
Let's differentiate, identify, and regroup our terminological entities!
Greetings from Zurich, --u
At 10:44 Uhr -0500 19.3.2005, Barry Wellman wrote:
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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-----Original Message----- I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS). What to call it? <snip, snip, snip>
Actually Barry, you did the right thing calling it the 'internet'. The word is a collective noun which describes all vehicles and applications that utilise internet protocol communications. Thus the word 'internet' isn't synonymous with the World Wide Web as most (incorrectly) assume, and is in fact, an umbrella term which includes everything from email, newsgroups, gopher and the WWW, to IRC, IM, P2P and podcasting. It has annoyed me for some time that people consistently refer to 'the internet' when in fact they mean 'the World Wide Web'. It's time the real meaning of the word was recaptured. Regards, J Jacobs ******************************************** Joanne Jacobs Consultant: E-Commerce, E-Marketing & Communications Policy Phone: (07) 3868 3134 Mobile: 0419 131 077 Email: joanne@joannejacobs.net Internet: http://joannejacobs.net/ ********************************************
It all comes down to connectivity. End-to-end connectivity. So: Connectivity Technology How about that? By the way, folks may find our brief in the Grokster "P2P Filesharing" case of interest: We ask the Court: Did the Court of Appeals rightly conclude that the doctrine of contributory copyright infringement cannot be used to prohibit the Internet?
http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/MGM_v_Grokster/20050301_fsf_nyfu.pdf
We put the same question to the Federal Trade Commission at their recent "P2P Filesharing" workshop:
Last year, we pulled many voices concerned about the Internet together at the Internet Commons Congress:
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I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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How about "interaction technology" or "technology for interaction"? /Ylva H ---------------------------------------------- Ylva Hard af Segerstad, Ph.D. Dept. of Linguistics Goteborg University Box 200 SE-405 30 Goteborg Sweden Email: ylva@ling.gu.se Phone: +46 31 773 4532 URL: http://www.ling.gu.se/~ylva/ ---------------------------------------------- 2005-03-19 kl. 16.44 skrev Barry Wellman:
I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA).
And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS).
What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness.
So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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Sorry, I don't understand why. The Internet is the Internet - an inter-connecting network. What services/applications you're running on it is something different. Are we talking about technologies or services/applications or something totally different? ;) Best, Laurent At 11:52 21.03.2005, you wrote:
How about "interaction technology" or "technology for interaction"?
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Hi I'm still happy to describe my research in terms of the range of evolving services provided via the internet. Am I missing something? And could there be cultural differences anyway? Many families I interviewed don't have the money to stay online and use IM and so on, they limit it's affordances to those they relate to learning such as web sites for homework etc. Best wishes Sue -----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org]On Behalf Of Barry Wellman Sent: 19 March 2005 15:45 To: aoir list Subject: [Air-l] we need a new word? I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a contradiction, as these were community development folks from across the USofA). And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but then verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the traditional email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your favorite including Usenet and BBS). What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful, jargony and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo: moreover, is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of the media and not on the newness. So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was "e-media", but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list, because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that it would be best if we had a standard word. Barry _____________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 To network is to live; to live is to network _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ The Air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
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