Hi List, I'm revising some previous work for an upcoming book chapter and some of the websites cited in my original research no longer exist. I'd like to keep the content - mainly blog posts - as it provides context to some of my points? If I include it how should I cite it i.e. should I write 'website no longer available' or something else, and should I even include the url? Thanks in anticipation Brainstrust! Cheers Debbie McCormick
Hi Debbie, do you have the date you visited each site? I ask it because as far as I know it´s a common practice to cite this way: "www.blablabla.edu. Visited xx/xx/xxxx" by the way, I think the lost of sites is a very interesting issue. Best, Alejandro Tortolini Scitech journalist - Teacher Buenos Aires, Argentina
If it is important for your readers to be able to view the site, you could try the Wayback Machine at the Internet Archive. (http://www.archive.org/) Otherwise, yeah, I think you can just list the date that you retrieved the info. mark On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Alejandro Tortolini <alemtor@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Debbie, do you have the date you visited each site? I ask it because as far as I know it´s a common practice to cite this way: "www.blablabla.edu. Visited xx/xx/xxxx" by the way, I think the lost of sites is a very interesting issue. Best,
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An imperfect solution is to use GMU's Zotero to manage your bibliography, and to create a snapshot for each web page you cite. Then, at least you'll always have an archive of the page as you saw it, even if it becomes unavailable later. William Huber Researcher, Software Studies Initiative @ Calit2 Doctoral candidate, Ph.D. Program in Art & Media History Visual Arts Department, University of California, San Diego On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Alejandro Tortolini <alemtor@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Debbie, do you have the date you visited each site? I ask it because as far as I know it´s a common practice to cite this way: "www.blablabla.edu. Visited xx/xx/xxxx" by the way, I think the lost of sites is a very interesting issue. Best,
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I am curious what you would then do with the archive. For example I have an archive of (now-removed) forum posts from a virtual environment I conducted some research in. If I wanted to cite those, and came across an editor in the same frame of mind as Debbie, would the archive help? -What would be the ethics of making something re-available (on a supporting web page or similar) that the original poster, or forum moderators, decided they did not want public? Darryl Woodford PhD Candidate | Sessional Academic, Creative Industries Faculty Queensland University of Technology On 25 Aug 2011, at 12:24, William Huber wrote:
An imperfect solution is to use GMU's Zotero to manage your bibliography, and to create a snapshot for each web page you cite. Then, at least you'll always have an archive of the page as you saw it, even if it becomes unavailable later.
William Huber Researcher, Software Studies Initiative @ Calit2 Doctoral candidate, Ph.D. Program in Art & Media History Visual Arts Department, University of California, San Diego
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Alejandro Tortolini <alemtor@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Debbie, do you have the date you visited each site? I ask it because as far as I know it´s a common practice to cite this way: "www.blablabla.edu. Visited xx/xx/xxxx" by the way, I think the lost of sites is a very interesting issue. Best,
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It's also useful to note that whilst some urls stay live for a long time, shortened links like bit.ly will disappear if the company goes out of business. So it's always more sustainable to use the long urls. __________ Sue Thomas Professor of New Media IOCT/Faculty of Humanities Clephan 1.01d De Montfort University, The Gateway, Leicester LE1 9BH, UK +44 (0)116 207 8266 e: sue.thomas@dmu.ac.uk t: @suethomas w: Nature and Cyberspace: stories, memes and metaphors http://www.thewildsurmise.com -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Darryl Woodford Sent: 25 August 2011 06:22 To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Citing inactive websites I am curious what you would then do with the archive. For example I have an archive of (now-removed) forum posts from a virtual environment I conducted some research in. If I wanted to cite those, and came across an editor in the same frame of mind as Debbie, would the archive help? -What would be the ethics of making something re-available (on a supporting web page or similar) that the original poster, or forum moderators, decided they did not want public? Darryl Woodford PhD Candidate | Sessional Academic, Creative Industries Faculty Queensland University of Technology On 25 Aug 2011, at 12:24, William Huber wrote:
An imperfect solution is to use GMU's Zotero to manage your bibliography, and to create a snapshot for each web page you cite. Then, at least you'll always have an archive of the page as you saw it, even if it becomes unavailable later.
William Huber Researcher, Software Studies Initiative @ Calit2 Doctoral candidate, Ph.D. Program in Art & Media History Visual Arts Department, University of California, San Diego
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Alejandro Tortolini <alemtor@gmail.com>wrote:
Hi Debbie, do you have the date you visited each site? I ask it because as far as I know it´s a common practice to cite this way: "www.blablabla.edu. Visited xx/xx/xxxx" by the way, I think the lost of sites is a very interesting issue. Best,
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