Lawrence Lessig on ending corruption and influence of money in politics
fascinating interview with Lawrence Lessig where he discusses his new cause, devoting the next ten years to ending government corruption. how internet as a tool of participatory democracy and the advent of the 'global commons' could be the decisive weapons in this struggle. hopefully he would establish a project for this new cause as he did with Creative Commons, so that people in countries like Bangladesh, India, Russia, Canada etc. can utilize his yet to be proposed mechanism. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ehenrikmol... miraj Miraj Khaled Vancouver, Canada ================== http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1366114 http://sfu.facebook.com/profile.php?id=653384504 http://del.icio.us/techiemik --------------------------------- Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today!
May be I am slightly anti-american and I have only read his one book Code but his solution of American constitutional values and that of some Canadian advocates of such things as creative commons seems to take American laws and beliefs and transplant them into other countries. This does not work says I who recently finished a BA in legal studies where unlike natural sciences and mathematics ( this could be questioned too) law textbooks, legal sources, and rules are unique to a country and there is limited use for other countries laws. For instance we don't have the same background of libertarianism in Canada. We like our good government, peace and order. I will listen to his interview but I like to offer the above warning. I did learn a lot reading his book but that was his technical analysis which was a bit of a help even if borrowed and inaccurate. I did not buy into his solutions. Peter Timusk, B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week. On 9-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Miraj Khaled wrote:
fascinating interview with Lawrence Lessig where he discusses his new cause, devoting the next ten years to ending government corruption. how internet as a tool of participatory democracy and the advent of the 'global commons' could be the decisive weapons in this struggle.
hopefully he would establish a project for this new cause as he did with Creative Commons, so that people in countries like Bangladesh, India, Russia, Canada etc. can utilize his yet to be proposed mechanism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% 2Ehenrikmoltke%2Edk%2F
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given the tendency for governments around the world to sign up to American copyright regimes as part of their free trade agreements, I'd argue that an American perspective fighting on the side of less restrictive IP would be necessary. however, IANALOALS. (i am not a lawyer or a legal scholar) Barry On 10/9/07, Peter Timusk <ptimusk@sympatico.ca> wrote:
May be I am slightly anti-american and I have only read his one book Code but his solution of American constitutional values and that of some Canadian advocates of such things as creative commons seems to take American laws and beliefs and transplant them into other countries. This does not work says I who recently finished a BA in legal studies where unlike natural sciences and mathematics ( this could be questioned too) law textbooks, legal sources, and rules are unique to a country and there is limited use for other countries laws. For instance we don't have the same background of libertarianism in Canada. We like our good government, peace and order.
I will listen to his interview but I like to offer the above warning. I did learn a lot reading his book but that was his technical analysis which was a bit of a help even if borrowed and inaccurate. I did not buy into his solutions.
Peter Timusk,
B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week.
On 9-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Miraj Khaled wrote:
fascinating interview with Lawrence Lessig where he discusses his new cause, devoting the next ten years to ending government corruption. how internet as a tool of participatory democracy and the advent of the 'global commons' could be the decisive weapons in this struggle.
hopefully he would establish a project for this new cause as he did with Creative Commons, so that people in countries like Bangladesh, India, Russia, Canada etc. can utilize his yet to be proposed mechanism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% 2Ehenrikmoltke%2Edk%2F
miraj
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-- Barry Saunders ---- http://investigativeblog.net http://gatewatching.org http://youdecide2007.org ---- PhD Candidate // researcher http://creativeindustries.qut.edu.au ph: 07 3138 0155 skype: barry_saunders CRICOS No. 00213J
I tend to agree with Barry's comment. I think Lessig is really trying to attack the root of the problem, so to speak, both his free culture quest and in his anti-corruption tirade of late. In both cases, this is a sentiment I can support wholeheartedly. I've only read his "Free Culture," but will check out Code. Conor barry saunders wrote:
given the tendency for governments around the world to sign up to American copyright regimes as part of their free trade agreements, I'd argue that an American perspective fighting on the side of less restrictive IP would be necessary.
however, IANALOALS. (i am not a lawyer or a legal scholar)
Barry
On 10/9/07, Peter Timusk <ptimusk@sympatico.ca> wrote:
May be I am slightly anti-american and I have only read his one book Code but his solution of American constitutional values and that of some Canadian advocates of such things as creative commons seems to take American laws and beliefs and transplant them into other countries. This does not work says I who recently finished a BA in legal studies where unlike natural sciences and mathematics ( this could be questioned too) law textbooks, legal sources, and rules are unique to a country and there is limited use for other countries laws. For instance we don't have the same background of libertarianism in Canada. We like our good government, peace and order.
I will listen to his interview but I like to offer the above warning. I did learn a lot reading his book but that was his technical analysis which was a bit of a help even if borrowed and inaccurate. I did not buy into his solutions.
Peter Timusk,
B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week.
On 9-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Miraj Khaled wrote:
fascinating interview with Lawrence Lessig where he discusses his new cause, devoting the next ten years to ending government corruption. how internet as a tool of participatory democracy and the advent of the 'global commons' could be the decisive weapons in this struggle.
hopefully he would establish a project for this new cause as he did with Creative Commons, so that people in countries like Bangladesh, India, Russia, Canada etc. can utilize his yet to be proposed mechanism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% 2Ehenrikmoltke%2Edk%2F
miraj
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There is a great deal of work in translating (both literally and figuratively) American IP systems into different countries' systems. A great example is the Canadian Creative Commons group (http://www.creativecommons.ca/). While thanks to the Berne Convention many countries share common features of IP law, Canada has a host of creators' rights not seen in America. Michael Giest (http://www.michaelgeist.ca), a law prof at U Ottawa is a leading scholar in how to convert CC, which was created in an American legal context, into different legal systems. Standard IANALOALS warnings apply. Ben Spigel Department of Geography The Ohio State University On 10/9/07, Conor Schaefer <conor.schaefer@gmail.com> wrote:
I tend to agree with Barry's comment. I think Lessig is really trying to attack the root of the problem, so to speak, both his free culture quest and in his anti-corruption tirade of late. In both cases, this is a sentiment I can support wholeheartedly.
I've only read his "Free Culture," but will check out Code.
Conor
barry saunders wrote:
given the tendency for governments around the world to sign up to American copyright regimes as part of their free trade agreements, I'd argue that an American perspective fighting on the side of less restrictive IP would be necessary.
however, IANALOALS. (i am not a lawyer or a legal scholar)
Barry
On 10/9/07, Peter Timusk <ptimusk@sympatico.ca> wrote:
May be I am slightly anti-american and I have only read his one book Code but his solution of American constitutional values and that of some Canadian advocates of such things as creative commons seems to take American laws and beliefs and transplant them into other countries. This does not work says I who recently finished a BA in legal studies where unlike natural sciences and mathematics ( this could be questioned too) law textbooks, legal sources, and rules are unique to a country and there is limited use for other countries laws. For instance we don't have the same background of libertarianism in Canada. We like our good government, peace and order.
I will listen to his interview but I like to offer the above warning. I did learn a lot reading his book but that was his technical analysis which was a bit of a help even if borrowed and inaccurate. I did not buy into his solutions.
Peter Timusk,
B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week.
On 9-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Miraj Khaled wrote:
fascinating interview with Lawrence Lessig where he discusses his new cause, devoting the next ten years to ending government corruption. how internet as a tool of participatory democracy and the advent of the 'global commons' could be the decisive weapons in this struggle.
hopefully he would establish a project for this new cause as he did with Creative Commons, so that people in countries like Bangladesh, India, Russia, Canada etc. can utilize his yet to be proposed mechanism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% 2Ehenrikmoltke%2Edk%2F
miraj
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Giest is good and he wrote the book Internet Law in Canada(which deals with much more than just IP issues) and may still be doing editions of that but he got gobbled up by IP issues IMHO. But my point we need a different law book for Canada not a "US Internet law in Canada" textbook. He is lawyer and he is at my school. He does/did a regular newspaper column on Internet law issues for Canadian newspapers too but again I stopped reading when most articles were about IP and CD copying taxes etc. I have also asked him to read undergrad papers of mine which he said he did but never sent any feedback. But why should we have to translate US law? That seems too elitist and top down if law is a product of the people( in this or that country). Peter Timusk, IMNAY and I collect royalties and of course publish for free on the supposedly free to copy web B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week. On 9-Oct-07, at 11:00 AM, Ben Spigel wrote:
There is a great deal of work in translating (both literally and figuratively) American IP systems into different countries' systems. A great example is the Canadian Creative Commons group (http://www.creativecommons.ca/). While thanks to the Berne Convention many countries share common features of IP law, Canada has a host of creators' rights not seen in America. Michael Giest (http://www.michaelgeist.ca), a law prof at U Ottawa is a leading scholar in how to convert CC, which was created in an American legal context, into different legal systems.
Standard IANALOALS warnings apply.
Ben Spigel Department of Geography The Ohio State University
On 10/9/07, Conor Schaefer <conor.schaefer@gmail.com> wrote:
I tend to agree with Barry's comment. I think Lessig is really trying to attack the root of the problem, so to speak, both his free culture quest and in his anti-corruption tirade of late. In both cases, this is a sentiment I can support wholeheartedly.
I've only read his "Free Culture," but will check out Code.
Conor
barry saunders wrote:
given the tendency for governments around the world to sign up to American copyright regimes as part of their free trade agreements, I'd argue that an American perspective fighting on the side of less restrictive IP would be necessary.
however, IANALOALS. (i am not a lawyer or a legal scholar)
Barry
On 10/9/07, Peter Timusk <ptimusk@sympatico.ca> wrote:
May be I am slightly anti-american and I have only read his one book Code but his solution of American constitutional values and that of some Canadian advocates of such things as creative commons seems to take American laws and beliefs and transplant them into other countries. This does not work says I who recently finished a BA in legal studies where unlike natural sciences and mathematics ( this could be questioned too) law textbooks, legal sources, and rules are unique to a country and there is limited use for other countries laws. For instance we don't have the same background of libertarianism in Canada. We like our good government, peace and order.
I will listen to his interview but I like to offer the above warning. I did learn a lot reading his book but that was his technical analysis which was a bit of a help even if borrowed and inaccurate. I did not buy into his solutions.
Peter Timusk,
B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa. just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week.
On 9-Oct-07, at 3:00 AM, Miraj Khaled wrote:
fascinating interview with Lawrence Lessig where he discusses his new cause, devoting the next ten years to ending government corruption. how internet as a tool of participatory democracy and the advent of the 'global commons' could be the decisive weapons in this struggle.
hopefully he would establish a project for this new cause as he did with Creative Commons, so that people in countries like Bangladesh, India, Russia, Canada etc. can utilize his yet to be proposed mechanism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jkZFIwmc-8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww% 2Ehenrikmoltke%2Edk%2F
miraj
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But why should we have to translate US law? That seems too elitist and top down if law is a product of the people( in this or that country).
my point is that IP law is rarely, if ever, a product of the people. It's a product of the US govt. Barry (IANALOLS)
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