Re: [Air-L] Advice on dissertation publishing?
My dissertation is also CC licensed (also following danah's how-do, thanks danah), and I embargoed it from ProQuest because I wanted to put it up on my own website, where it is still freely available. Not only did this NOT hurt me getting a book deal, but I put in my book proposal that the diss. had been downloaded 3,000 times, which helped convince prospective publishers that there was a market for the book. My diss has also been cited a bit, which is great. Now that the book is coming out (November 26, makes a great Thanksgiving gift), I really don't want people reading the dissertation anymore because the book is SO much better. But it's still up there (although I think it's not linked from the front page of my website anymore, but mostly because I forgot the last time I updated the page, not for any great reason) because I don't like the idea of having a fiscal barrier to accessing my work. I did not CC the book, which is a whole other conversation. (Mark, I had my undergrads read parts of Leet Noobs, by the way- it sparked great conversations!) Best, Alice http://bit.ly/StatusUpdateBook
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My dissertation was on proquest, open, and I threw in a CC license for good measure (after reading danah boyd's how to).
It did not prevent me from getting a book deal (with Peter Lang). A couple of my chapters were published before the diss and became chapters (not verbatim tho), and Peter Lang didn't seem to have a problem with that either. It may have been because I worked with a series and therefore the series editors (who were the awesome Michele Knobel and Colin Lankshear).
For a while my dissertation was being sold at Barnes & Nobel as an ebook while my book was simultaneously out on Amazon but wasn't available as an ebook. The book is a much, much better rewrite, and B&N was charging the same, so this pissed me off a bit. I don't think that's happening anymore, but Peter Lang still hasn't released the ebook version...
mark
Alice, The point you make about using download info as part of the 'sales pitch' for a book contract is excellent. I'd not thought of it that way before - thanks! In my experience, I've never known anyone have problems with publishers/journals viz having their work out there in PhD format prior to/alongside formal publication. As has already been said here, it's generally a different animal that comes out the other end of those processes anyway. Whilst we are on the subject, another really important reason to keep our PhDs in the public domain whether that's on a library shelf or in some kind of online open access repository, is that it shows our work at a particular point in time - as a PhD. PhD researchers just starting out need to see the different shapes PhDs can take and also, hopefully, they demonstrate the kind of expectations and thinking that is expected. PhDs are important reference works even though,and actually BECAUSE, they might have a few kinks in compared to anything we might produce later. Mine certainly has them, but then again so does my current work :O) Cheers, Ben. Ben Light PhD MSc BA(Hons) Professor of Digital Media Studies Creative Industries Faculty School of Media, Entertainment and Creative Arts Queensland University of Technology Creative Industries Precinct Z1-515 Musk Avenue Kelvin Grove QLD 4059 Australia Phone: +61 7 3138 8280 Twitter: @doggyb QUT: http://www.staff.qut.edu.au/staff/lightb Open Access Publications: http://eprints.qut.edu.au/view/person/Light,_Ben.html Personal Site: http://www.benlight.org On 30/09/2013 09:55, "Alice E. Marwick" <amarwick@gmail.com> wrote:
My dissertation is also CC licensed (also following danah's how-do, thanks danah), and I embargoed it from ProQuest because I wanted to put it up on my own website, where it is still freely available.
Not only did this NOT hurt me getting a book deal, but I put in my book proposal that the diss. had been downloaded 3,000 times, which helped convince prospective publishers that there was a market for the book.
My diss has also been cited a bit, which is great.
Now that the book is coming out (November 26, makes a great Thanksgiving gift), I really don't want people reading the dissertation anymore because the book is SO much better. But it's still up there (although I think it's not linked from the front page of my website anymore, but mostly because I forgot the last time I updated the page, not for any great reason) because I don't like the idea of having a fiscal barrier to accessing my work. I did not CC the book, which is a whole other conversation.
(Mark, I had my undergrads read parts of Leet Noobs, by the way- it sparked great conversations!)
Best, Alice
http://bit.ly/StatusUpdateBook
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:32:03 -0700 From: Mark Chen <markchen@u.washington.edu> To: aoir list <air-l@aoir.org> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Advice on dissertation publishing? Message-ID:
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My dissertation was on proquest, open, and I threw in a CC license for good measure (after reading danah boyd's how to).
It did not prevent me from getting a book deal (with Peter Lang). A couple of my chapters were published before the diss and became chapters (not verbatim tho), and Peter Lang didn't seem to have a problem with that either. It may have been because I worked with a series and therefore the series editors (who were the awesome Michele Knobel and Colin Lankshear).
For a while my dissertation was being sold at Barnes & Nobel as an ebook while my book was simultaneously out on Amazon but wasn't available as an ebook. The book is a much, much better rewrite, and B&N was charging the same, so this pissed me off a bit. I don't think that's happening anymore, but Peter Lang still hasn't released the ebook version...
mark
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Hello, all - I'm planning on giving a software studies grad seminar in the spring of 2014. Although the deadline for ordering books is fast approaching, there's still a bit of time for feedback. So, if you have any suggestions/critiques of this course, please let me know. I'd love to hear comments from the AoIRers! The course's readings and basic description can be found here: http://robertwgehl.org/blog/?p=179 Regards, Rob Gehl -- Robert W. Gehl Assistant Professor, Department of Communication The University of Utah www.robertwgehl.org | @robertwgehl Sent from our OS on our Internet
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