Actually, the requirement to fingerprint adults working with children in volunteer roles is not uncommon these days. I've seen that for high school club mentors, coaches, Civil Air Patrol, and all sorts of other youth-oriented activities. 15 years ago when I was still in CAP, I had to be fingerprinted (with my own $$) and go through child leader and sexual harrassment "training" provided by the organisation before I was allowed to work with CAP cadets, even though I had just turned 23 at the time. I don't view that as Big Brother or the Surveillance State policy at all ... at the very least, it's a good idea to find a few bad folks early. But I do think that this process is based on a desire to give parents some type of impramatur that it's ok to let us work in close proximity with their children during youth activities. It's not 100% effective (no security or screening process is) but it also gives the organisation some liability coverage that they're "doing something" to try and protect kids. -rick On Nov 20, 2010, at 09:34 , Barry Wellman wrote:

Talk about the Surveillance State Going to New Extremes. Well, the Ring is Kinda Subversive.

This is Not a Hoaz: one of my Oldest and Dearest Friends received this.

Barry Wellman _______________________________________________________________________

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From: Kelly Christ To: Kelly Christ Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: New LA Opera Requirements for Volunteers

Dear Opera League Volunteers,

We are so grateful for the efforts and passion that you put forth as you spread your love and knowledge of opera, especially to children and youth. In order to continue this outreach to young people, LA Opera now requires that any volunteer who works with children or youth on behalf of LA Opera or the Opera League gets fingerprinted and TB-tested whether you work with children at schools, in the community or here at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion.

To this purpose, we are having a fingerprinting vendor come to campus on Monday, November 29th from 9:30-11:30am in Rehearsal Room 2 on the 4th floor of the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. Even if you have fingerprints on file with another agency, you must be fingerprinted again for our programs. The cost to the volunteer is $71 and you can pay at that time by cash, money orders, cashier checks or business checks payable to Federal Fingerprinting, Inc. They do not accept personal checks or credit cards. At this time, you will need to fill out the attached "Live Scan Form" (copies will be available in the rehearsal room). You will also need to bring a valid government-issued ID. To participate in the fingerprinting service, please RSVP to Kelly Christ in Human Resources by email (kchrist@laopera.com) or telephone (213.972.3140) by Wednesday, November 24th at 12 noon.

We have also made contact with US Healthworks who will be providing TB skin tests at the cost of $20 to volunteers. To get TB tested you can visit any of their Los Angeles area clinics. You just need to walk-in during that clinic's regular hours and present them with the attached "US Healthworks TB Authorization Form." They will give you the test and require that you visit them again in 3 days time for a reading.

The US Healthworks downtown clinic is located at 1313 West 8th Street Suite 100, Los Angeles, CA 90017. They are open from Monday through Friday from 7:00am - 4:00pm and on Saturday from 7:00am - 1:00pm. If necessary, you can reach them at (213) 401-1970.

Please note that there may be a clinic closer to your home. To find a clinic near you, you can visit their website at www.ushealthworks.com. Next click, "Find a Medical Center" and select "California" from the drop-down menu. You can then enter your address and click "Search." Now click on the location nearest to you and their address, office hours, contact numbers and more information will be at your fingertips.

You may also visit your own doctor for a TB test. Be sure to send written evidence that you tested negative to LA Opera's Human Resources Department (Attn: Kelly Christ, LA Opera, 135 North Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90012). If you tested negative within the past six months, you may send that written evidence to LA Opera HR instead.

Please note that if you choose not to get fingerprinted or TB tested you can still volunteer for many LA Opera and Opera League activities. However, as of December 1st, 2010, LA Opera and the Opera League will only assign volunteers to make school visits or participate in other activities involving children to those volunteers who have completed these new requirements. You will be eligible for assignments involving children as soon as:

a.. You have been fingerprinted by our vendor (and cleared with California's Dept. of Justice and the FBI) b.. AND you have provided LA Opera's HR department with proof of a negative TB test

If you are not able to complete these tasks before December 1st, you will be eligible to volunteer in activities involving children just as soon as these tasks are finalized.

If you have any questions, please contact Kelly Christ in LA Opera Human Resources by email (kchrist@laopera.com) or telephone (213.972.3140).

Thanks again for giving so much of your time, energy and spirit to young people on behalf of LA Opera!

Best,

Kelly

Kelly Christ

Human Resources and Operations Administrator

135 North Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90012

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The issue of "pay to volunteer" is of course multiplied at least 10 fold and perhaps more in the area of civil society particularly international civil society where participation in civil society activities is usually understood to be done on a user pays principle which generally involves travel to exotic and expensive locations (the kind that paid for bureaucrats, corporate flacks, and academics would find appealing) -----Original Message----- From: citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org [mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] On Behalf Of Barry Wellman Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:34 AM To: communication and information technology section asa; aoir list Cc: Steve Mann; jason nolan; Mann, Steve -- Steve Mann Subject: [CITASA] Fw: New LA Opera Requirements for Volunteers (fwd) Talk about the Surveillance State Going to New Extremes. Well, the Ring is Kinda Subversive. This is Not a Hoaz: one of my Oldest and Dearest Friends received this. Barry Wellman _______________________________________________________________________ S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388 University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:barrywellman http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963 Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php _______________________________________________________________________ From: Kelly Christ To: Kelly Christ Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:38 PM Subject: New LA Opera Requirements for Volunteers Dear Opera League Volunteers, We are so grateful for the efforts and passion that you put forth as you spread your love and knowledge of opera, especially to children and youth. In order to continue this outreach to young people, LA Opera now requires that any volunteer who works with children or youth on behalf of LA Opera or the Opera League gets fingerprinted and TB-tested whether you work with children at schools, in the community or here at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. To this purpose, we are having a fingerprinting vendor come to campus on Monday, November 29th from 9:30-11:30am in Rehearsal Room 2 on the 4th floor of the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion. Even if you have fingerprints on file with another agency, you must be fingerprinted again for our programs. The cost to the volunteer is $71 and you can pay at that time by cash, money orders, cashier checks or business checks payable to Federal Fingerprinting, Inc. They do not accept personal checks or credit cards. At this time, you will need to fill out the attached "Live Scan Form" (copies will be available in the rehearsal room). You will also need to bring a valid government-issued ID. To participate in the fingerprinting service, please RSVP to Kelly Christ in Human Resources by email (kchrist@laopera.com) or telephone (213.972.3140) by Wednesday, November 24th at 12 noon. We have also made contact with US Healthworks who will be providing TB skin tests at the cost of $20 to volunteers. To get TB tested you can visit any of their Los Angeles area clinics. You just need to walk-in during that clinic's regular hours and present them with the attached "US Healthworks TB Authorization Form." They will give you the test and require that you visit them again in 3 days time for a reading. The US Healthworks downtown clinic is located at 1313 West 8th Street Suite 100, Los Angeles, CA 90017. They are open from Monday through Friday from 7:00am - 4:00pm and on Saturday from 7:00am - 1:00pm. If necessary, you can reach them at (213) 401-1970. Please note that there may be a clinic closer to your home. To find a clinic near you, you can visit their website at www.ushealthworks.com. Next click, "Find a Medical Center" and select "California" from the drop-down menu. You can then enter your address and click "Search." Now click on the location nearest to you and their address, office hours, contact numbers and more information will be at your fingertips. You may also visit your own doctor for a TB test. Be sure to send written evidence that you tested negative to LA Opera's Human Resources Department (Attn: Kelly Christ, LA Opera, 135 North Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90012). If you tested negative within the past six months, you may send that written evidence to LA Opera HR instead. Please note that if you choose not to get fingerprinted or TB tested you can still volunteer for many LA Opera and Opera League activities. However, as of December 1st, 2010, LA Opera and the Opera League will only assign volunteers to make school visits or participate in other activities involving children to those volunteers who have completed these new requirements. You will be eligible for assignments involving children as soon as: a.. You have been fingerprinted by our vendor (and cleared with California's Dept. of Justice and the FBI) b.. AND you have provided LA Opera's HR department with proof of a negative TB test If you are not able to complete these tasks before December 1st, you will be eligible to volunteer in activities involving children just as soon as these tasks are finalized. If you have any questions, please contact Kelly Christ in LA Opera Human Resources by email (kchrist@laopera.com) or telephone (213.972.3140). Thanks again for giving so much of your time, energy and spirit to young people on behalf of LA Opera! Best, Kelly Kelly Christ Human Resources and Operations Administrator 135 North Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90012 T: 213 972 3140 | F: 213 972 3082 | W: www.laopera.com _______________________________________________ CITASA mailing list CITASA@list.citasa.org http://list.citasa.org/mailman/listinfo/citasa_list.citasa.org