Citation Managers - Alternatives to Endnote/CiteULike/... ?
Dear AoIRers, I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record). My preferred workflow would be a two-step process: 1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g. [2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002. 2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g. [2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5) [2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8) etc. Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.). Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find... -- Dr Axel Bruns a.bruns@qut.edu.au - http://snurb.info/ Media & Communication Musk Ave, Kelvin Grove, Qld. 4059, Australia Creative Industries Faculty Z2-202, CIP - (07) 3864 5548 Queensland University of Technology CRICOS No.: 00213J
I use bookends, and it is great for this. it has a notes category and i keep many of my notes in that, much the same way that you mention. But bookends is mac only. http:// www.sonnysoftware.com/ . I am happy to trade endnote xml files produced from bookends with other people's files if they have them available. The search tool of bookends is quite amazingly adept, it has both regex and sql capacities. Bookends also plugs into word and other word processors, such as the one that I use, which is Mellel at http://www.redlers.com/ . I also have just started using copywrite to write too, because it has the option of full screen mode writing http://www.bartastechnologies.com/ . Bookends works fine with copywrite. Alternatively you can use my online reference tool. http:// referencetool.tmttlt.com/ The more people that use it, the faster I will probably upgrade it's capacities. The referencetool that is online now is mainly just wikindx3, but It does precisely what you seem to want. I've been working on a parallel project for some time now that might be released in the fall that does the same thing, only differently, but it will be data compatible with wikindx3 , so no one will lose any data. The other thing that I use, but not really for references, but for quote and paper/pdf management is devonthink. Steven Johnson shows how he uses it at http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/ archives/000230.html I use it differently. I download or print every document to pdf that i deem appropriate, currently around 11000 different pdfs, I make sure that they are all full text pdfs, and then devonthink makes them searchable. Devonthink is basically what i chose to replace any Desktop Search tool, such as apple's native spotlight, which failed miserably on full text phrase search in pdfs. so.. I have another step in process, in comparison to yours, which is to put almost everything into devonthink as a whole. Then I put the citations and specific notes into bookends, and I occasionally export my bookends database to wikindx3/referencetool. bookends + referenceminer http://www.sonnysoftware.com/ referencetool/wikindx3 http://referencetool.tmttlt.com/ devonthink http://www.devon-technologies.com/products/devonthink/ overview.php copywrite http://www.bartastechnologies.com/ mellel http://www.redlers.com/ Hope that helps jeremy hunsinger jhuns@vt.edu www.cddc.vt.edu jeremy.tmttlt.com www.tmttlt.com () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.stswiki.org/ sts wiki http://cfp.learning-inquiry.info/ LI-the journal
On Mar 19, 2006, at 1:02 PM, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
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I download or print every document to pdf that i deem appropriate, currently around 11000 different pdfs, I make sure that they are all full text pdfs ...
I too strongly prefer full-text pdfs, I'd love to know how you ensure this. I've written to our e-journal subscriptions person at the library explaining their importance and requesting that the library prefer full-text pdf providers when purchasing eJournal subscriptions. Unfortunately this crucial bit of metadata doesn't appear to make its way into library catalogues (or services like openurl lookups) so I find it hard to remember which providers have full-text searchable pdfs while grabbing research papers online. This means I'm often annoyed later finding image PDFs (yes, I'm looking at you JSTOR) in my personal library. To be clear, I'm referring to online journal providers. If one is printing html or other full-text documents---ie creating one's own PDF records---then it is fairly easy to ensure: It's the default mode in 'printing PDF to disk' on OS X, and I assume that Acrobat has that same capability on windows. Any hints? Are you using OCR to convert the image PDFs? Is that pretty effective? Does it integrate with DEVONthink? Perhaps we should create a list of full-text PDF providers on a wiki somewhere? Does anyone in the e-journal purchasing world already prefer full-text PDF providers? Or maybe end-user OCR is sufficient? Thanks, James ps. apologies for the thread-jack. FWIW I use BibDesk, which is great for bibtex/latex integration and searching inside PDFs, but lacking in Word integration and Windows-ness. Quotes go into the annotation field linked to the record. http://bibdesk.sf.net
I too strongly prefer full-text pdfs, I'd love to know how you ensure this.
I've written to our e-journal subscriptions person at the library explaining their importance and requesting that the library prefer full-text pdf providers when purchasing eJournal subscriptions. Unfortunately this crucial bit of metadata doesn't appear to make its way into library catalogues (or services like openurl lookups) so I find it hard to remember which providers have full-text searchable pdfs while grabbing research papers online. This means I'm often annoyed later finding image PDFs (yes, I'm looking at you JSTOR) in my personal library.
i use acrobat pro 7 to batch convert jstor high quality pdfs to txt pdfs. i just put all of my pdfs that i need converted into one directory and batch convert them to txt pdfs. it takes about an hour per 30 jstor pdfs. none of the jstor pdfs are protected, so this works.
To be clear, I'm referring to online journal providers. If one is printing html or other full-text documents---ie creating one's own PDF records---then it is fairly easy to ensure: It's the default mode in 'printing PDF to disk' on OS X, and I assume that Acrobat has that same capability on windows.
some journal providers protect their pdfs. if they do that, you are not suppose to circumvent their protection. so don't use them. alternatively, you could, and i am not advising this, just ignore the protection in one of the ways suggested on any number of websites. alternatively, you can just refuse to cite protected manuscripts. this has the effect of lowering the citation impact score of those journals and encourages people to not publish there and also encourages editors to change their policy.
Any hints? Are you using OCR to convert the image PDFs? Is that pretty effective? Does it integrate with DEVONthink?
once they are ocr'd in acrobat pro, i then import them into devonthink. acrobat pro is excellent for ocr.
Perhaps we should create a list of full-text PDF providers on a wiki somewhere? Does anyone in the e-journal purchasing world already prefer full-text PDF providers? Or maybe end-user OCR is sufficient?
feel free to create a section on wiki.aoir.org for this.
Thanks, James
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I use Endnote and simply put quotes in the "notes" field. This has the added benefit of allowing me to search for quotes and key terms. In fact, when possible, I put the entire text of an article in the notes section. I also put a link to the filename of the article when I'm able to download an article. I've tried hard to convince other graduate students and faculty to share their Endnote libraries but have not had much success. Other than laziness and lack of use of these powerful biblio tracking applications, I can't understand why folks would not want to share the refs they find helpful. Can someone explain this lack of sharing to me? Thanks, Charlie LSU Doctorial Candidate http://charlie.balch.org -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Axel Bruns Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:11 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Citation Managers - Alternatives to Endnote/CiteULike/... ? Dear AoIRers, I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record). My preferred workflow would be a two-step process: 1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g. [2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002. 2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g. [2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5) [2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8) etc. Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.). Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find... -- Dr Axel Bruns a.bruns@qut.edu.au - http://snurb.info/ Media & Communication Musk Ave, Kelvin Grove, Qld. 4059, Australia Creative Industries Faculty Z2-202, CIP - (07) 3864 5548 Queensland University of Technology CRICOS No.: 00213J _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
On sharing endnote - not replacing it - yeah shy not share - particularly after my thesis is finished (well in revision)! I have a file of emails from AoIR, mostly book-orientated or citation oriented that I have wanted to share with AoIR members on the website for a long time. Thanks for the reminder to find out how to do this! (I label them: aoir so can pull them out of the main database). Cheers, Denise Denise N. Rall, Ph.D. submitted, School of Environ. Science, Southern Cross University, Lismore NSW 2480 AUSTRALIA Tuesdays: Room T2.12, +61 (0)2 6620 3577 or Mobile 0438 233 344 http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/rsm/staff/pages/drall/index.html Virtual member, Cybermetrics Group, University of Wolverhampton, UK http://cybermetrics.wlv.ac.uk/index.html
Hi all I haven't tried much in the way of software. But then costs in software and learning something new keep me from trying them out. I am just a student but have had trouble tracking down great ideas I have read. I use a blog. I simply write my notes as html directory lists as so... from yesterdays post in raw html <being paste example blog entry> <--- this is not html, xml or latex just something I do in emails for clarity. I am reading these two books this morning: <DL><DT>Consalvo, Mia, & Passonen Susanna. eds. <I>Women & Everyday Uses of the Internet: Agency ad Identity</I> (New York:, Peter Lang 2002).</DT><DD>I have already read one chapter of this book but am reading the introduction this morning. These women editors are AoIR members I believe.</ DD><DT>Taylor, Robert W. et al. <I>Digital Crime and Digital Terrorism</I> (Upper Saddle River, N.J.: Pearson, Prentice Hall, 2006) </DT><DD>I just borrowed this yesterday while waiting to tutor a student. I read the first chapter last night and started the second chapter this morning. It is very biased towards US security and US centric defintions of warfare.</DD></DL> <end paste> Funny I spotted an html error doing this for you. Oh well back to web mastering this sunny day just before Spring. Peter Timusk B.Math statistics, BA legal studies Carleton University, Teaching Assistant. MA applicant. On 19-Mar-06, at 12:10 PM, Axel Bruns wrote:
Dear AoIRers,
I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike.
I use JabRef (Java based open source tool, jabref.sf.net) which stores references in BibTex - suitable for my preferred authoring environment LaTeX, but allows import/export in numerous formats for when I'm writing with Word templates. JabRef allows you to create quotations as part of the bibliographic record, and has a very effective search mechanism. There are many styles for presenting a BibTeX based bibliography, including APA, MLA and others. JabRef also allows for multiple URLs for the same resource: typically I print to full text PDF and store locally with a URI, plus reference the remote source. For my local copy, I use Terrier (http://ir.dcs.gla.ac.uk/terrier/) as the search tool (unerstands binary formats like doc, pdf). YMMV. baden
Hello all-- This thread is very interesting to me. Has anyone simply used Word for these purposes? I realize that it doesn't have the capacity to edit citation styles, but it does allow searching, etc. I am currently working on my PhD and have debated whether to use EndNote or other bibliographic tools. Because I was unsure of the advantages (other than the ability to edit citation style) and had neither the time nor the money to try different software, I've been building my now very large bib in Word. Best, Pam Pamela Estes Brewer Lecturer -- Coordinator, Professional Writing Department of English and Philosophy Murray State University PhD Student in Technical Communication & Rhetoric, Texas Tech University 270-762-4719 fax 270-762-4545 pam.brewer@murraystate.edu On March 1, 2006, Murray State University will begin moving all its phone numbers in the 762 exchange to an 809 exchange. My new numbers will be 270-809-4719 (office), and 270-809-4545 (FAX). -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Axel Bruns Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:11 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Citation Managers - Alternatives to Endnote/CiteULike/... ? Dear AoIRers, I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record). My preferred workflow would be a two-step process: 1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g. [2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002. 2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g. [2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5) [2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8) etc. Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.). Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find... -- Dr Axel Bruns a.bruns@qut.edu.au - http://snurb.info/ Media & Communication Musk Ave, Kelvin Grove, Qld. 4059, Australia Creative Industries Faculty Z2-202, CIP - (07) 3864 5548 Queensland University of Technology CRICOS No.: 00213J _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
I've been pretty pleased with Bookends thus far: I began using it b/c I'd heard it was more reliable with Mac. It's got a fine notes field. Lisa Lynch On Mar 20, 2006, at 9:45 AM, Pam Brewer wrote:
Hello all--
This thread is very interesting to me. Has anyone simply used Word for these purposes? I realize that it doesn't have the capacity to edit citation styles, but it does allow searching, etc. I am currently working on my PhD and have debated whether to use EndNote or other bibliographic tools. Because I was unsure of the advantages (other than the ability to edit citation style) and had neither the time nor the money to try different software, I've been building my now very large bib in Word.
Best, Pam
Pamela Estes Brewer Lecturer -- Coordinator, Professional Writing Department of English and Philosophy Murray State University PhD Student in Technical Communication & Rhetoric, Texas Tech University 270-762-4719 fax 270-762-4545 pam.brewer@murraystate.edu
On March 1, 2006, Murray State University will begin moving all its phone numbers in the 762 exchange to an 809 exchange. My new numbers will be 270-809-4719 (office), and 270-809-4545 (FAX).
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Axel Bruns Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:11 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Citation Managers - Alternatives to Endnote/ CiteULike/... ?
Dear AoIRers,
I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record).
My preferred workflow would be a two-step process:
1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g.
[2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002.
2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g.
[2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5)
[2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8)
etc.
Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.).
Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find...
-- Dr Axel Bruns a.bruns@qut.edu.au - http://snurb.info/ Media & Communication Musk Ave, Kelvin Grove, Qld. 4059, Australia Creative Industries Faculty Z2-202, CIP - (07) 3864 5548 Queensland University of Technology CRICOS No.: 00213J
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Pam, You might be interested in a handout that I created on creating large documents such as dissertations: http://balch.org/da There are lots of attached movies but the one for Endnote is at: http://balch.org/da/AutoAPADocument.wmv (Yes, I'm aware that I used Endnotes instead of Endnote.) Charlie -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Pam Brewer Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:46 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org; a.bruns@qut.edu.au Subject: Re: [Air-l] Citation Managers - Alternatives toEndnote/CiteULike/... ? Hello all-- This thread is very interesting to me. Has anyone simply used Word for these purposes? I realize that it doesn't have the capacity to edit citation styles, but it does allow searching, etc. I am currently working on my PhD and have debated whether to use EndNote or other bibliographic tools. Because I was unsure of the advantages (other than the ability to edit citation style) and had neither the time nor the money to try different software, I've been building my now very large bib in Word. Best, Pam Pamela Estes Brewer Lecturer -- Coordinator, Professional Writing Department of English and Philosophy Murray State University PhD Student in Technical Communication & Rhetoric, Texas Tech University 270-762-4719 fax 270-762-4545 pam.brewer@murraystate.edu On March 1, 2006, Murray State University will begin moving all its phone numbers in the 762 exchange to an 809 exchange. My new numbers will be 270-809-4719 (office), and 270-809-4545 (FAX). -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Axel Bruns Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:11 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] Citation Managers - Alternatives to Endnote/CiteULike/... ? Dear AoIRers, I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record). My preferred workflow would be a two-step process: 1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g. [2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002. 2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g. [2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5) [2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8) etc. Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.). Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ? Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find... -- Dr Axel Bruns a.bruns@qut.edu.au - http://snurb.info/ Media & Communication Musk Ave, Kelvin Grove, Qld. 4059, Australia Creative Industries Faculty Z2-202, CIP - (07) 3864 5548 Queensland University of Technology CRICOS No.: 00213J _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
I use AskSam for linking bibliographic information and citations, ideas, etc. See www.asksam.com . AskSam is a flatform text database. The great advantage of AskSam is its reporting tool. It lets you output the bibliographic information if the citation fulfils certain conditions, for instance, the term internet appears in the same sentence as packet switching dating. Even with large databases it's fast. Compared to EndNote it's far superior in data base handling of ideas, notes, any texts. However, you can't insert the bibliographic information on the fly which impresses me in EndNote. AskSam can easily be linked to its own Internet web pages saver, SurfSaver. It's a commercial product, though. Regards - Frank Thomas Axel Bruns wrote:
Dear AoIRers,
I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record).
My preferred workflow would be a two-step process:
1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g.
[2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002.
2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g.
[2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5)
[2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8)
etc.
Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.).
Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find...
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If you look at the website of the AskSam product, they have another one called Citation which looks like it does everything that was being asked for. Links to original document, note pages, excerpts, etc... http://www.citationonline.net/citationinfo.asp It looks interesting, has anyone used it? katie
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org]On Behalf Of Frank Thomas Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:04 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org; a.bruns@qut.edu.au Subject: Re: [Air-l] Citation Managers - Alternatives to Endnote/CiteULike/... ?
I use AskSam for linking bibliographic information and citations, ideas, etc. See www.asksam.com . AskSam is a flatform text database. The great advantage of AskSam is its reporting tool. It lets you output the bibliographic information if the citation fulfils certain conditions, for instance, the term internet appears in the same sentence as packet switching dating. Even with large databases it's fast.
Compared to EndNote it's far superior in data base handling of ideas, notes, any texts. However, you can't insert the bibliographic information on the fly which impresses me in EndNote.
AskSam can easily be linked to its own Internet web pages saver, SurfSaver. It's a commercial product, though.
Regards - Frank Thomas
Axel Bruns wrote:
Dear AoIRers,
I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively (e.g. in Endnote, the best available workaround appears to be to create an additional field for quotes in the bibliographic record, but this is clunky and doesn't work very well with multiple quotes stored against the same record).
My preferred workflow would be a two-step process:
1. Create a primary bibliographic record for the source, e.g.
[2] Graham Meikle. _Future Active: Media Activism and the Internet_. New York: Routledge, 2002.
2. Create (multiple) quotations as secondary records stored against the primary one, e.g.
[2.1] "People who hope to draw attention to issues can use the Net in a host of ways, but few are effective without the eventual participation of the older media." (5)
[2.2] "One way to measure the success of many of the projects . is to ask how effectively they can use the Net to force their cause onto the agenda of the mainstream media." (8)
etc.
Are there any tools (preferably open source, possibly Web-based) which do something along these lines ? Obviously I'm also keen on functionality to convert references automatically into a number of referencing styles (MLA, APA, etc.).
Failing this, the best alternative I can see is to use a tool such as CiteULike for the primary references, and create an additional database which stores quotations against the CiteULike references, but this seems kludgy at best. Hopefully there's a better solution ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated, and if there's any interest I'll post a summary of what I find...
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On Sunday 19 March 2006 12:10, Axel Bruns wrote:
I'm wondering if any of you can suggest useful alternatives to research citation manager tools such as Endnote or CiteULike. My approach to research is to store key quotations from a source alongside the bibliographic reference, but none of the standard tools I have come across seem to do this particularly effectively
This is why I created my own tool: http://reagle.org/joseph/blog/technology/python/freemind-extract-0.5 [[ 2005 Jun 10 | Mindmapping Bibliographies I am releasing a new zipfile of the fe mindmapping bibliographic tools. As explained in Extracting Bibliographies from Freemind, these are python scripts that are able to convert between Freemind mindmaps (using a few simple conventions) and bibliographic formats (i.e., OO.org CSV and bibtex). This approach is preferable to other bibliographic tools with limited/constrained forms for text entry. With fe one has a complete outline/map of texts, with figures, images, tables, links to sites, etc.; one can easily organize texts by topic or in separate mindmap files; and one can generate queries where each matching line has its appropriate citation with year and page number (e.g., "Giddens"). Unlike many bibliographic tools, it does not query on-line databases, but one can use such tools (e.g., tellico or refworks) to query and generate bibtex bibliographies and then use be.py to convert them to a mindmap. * fe.py: extract bibliographic data from bibliographic MM (dependent on XML ElementTree and optionally bibtex2html) + this version is faster since it uses XML ElementTree instead of XML Tramp. + given a list of authors cited (*.rl, such as that generated by pe.py or pyblink) bibtex2html will generate a bibliography of only those authors. + bibliographic maps are searchable from the command-line or via the Web (e.g., search results for "Giddens" in my mindmap [java|flash]). + a Web of mindmaps can be searched for essential entries (the title is bold) and placed in a new mindmap for studying. fe.py -h (help) -v (output csv) -c (chase links between MMs) -w (output bibtex & html file) -a (include abstracts) -s (use bibtex style) -q (query) -e (create new MM of essential works) * be.py: extract a MM from a bibtex file (dependent on bibstuff) * de.py: extract a MM from a dictated text file * ff.py: fix the case of titles of a bibliographic MM * pe.py: extract the bibliographic keys of the form 'Snide and Smith (2003)' or '(Snide, Smith and Smittie 2004)' from natural language text * te.py: parse inconsistently formatted textual bibliographies into bibliographic MM (e.g., from syllabi, cb2Bib is cool too) ]] -- Regards, http://www.mit.edu/~reagle/ Joseph Reagle E0 D5 B2 05 B6 12 DA 65 BE 4D E3 C1 6A 66 25 4E
Hello All, I am happy to announce the formation of the Association of Internet Researchers Graduate Student Research Group (AoIR-GSRG) and a call for participants. The purpose of the GSRG is to recruit graduate student members of AoIR who wish to take a more active role in the association. GSRG members would agree to serve one year as part of a pool of volunteers from which specific Graduate Student Research Teams (GSRT) would be drawn. GSRT participation would be on a voluntary basis. Individual teams would be tasked with a research project that would benefit the association and its members. The AoIR Executive Committee would determine the projects, the scope, and the disposition of the research performed. The rationale is that the association and its members can make better decisions with accurate information on topics of interest. More details on potential projects are below. It is envisioned that any project would be distributed among team members so that the time commitment would be on par with an average research paper or less. Members wanting to serve for more than one year may be renewed at the discretion of the Graduate Student Representative to the Executive Committee who acts as overall project coordinator. Teams are largely self-managing, but will be required to submit research plans and meet specific deadlines. The Executive, through the Graduate Student Representative, would work collaboratively with each team to ensure that projects are successfully completed within the terms originally approved by the Executive. GSRG and GSRT members will be recognized by the association at the annual conference, receive tasteful certificates (suitable for framing) and most of all the gratitude of the Executive Committee and the association. Service for AoIR in this way provides a significant credit to members' vitae and valuable experience working in a multi-disciplinary, distributed research team. In many cases, data and results will be made available to GSRT members for their own use in publications or presentations if they so desire. It is the hope of the Exec that the experience will help reinforce the concept of the association as a field for action and interaction, and build strong ties across geography, disciplines, and outside of thematic interest areas. GSRG applicants must be a graduate student and a paid member of AoIR. Interested graduate students should contact Ted M. Coopman, Graduate Student Representative, at coopman@u.washington.edu. Project Details Please note that all protocols concerning ethical research methods and the protection of personal data will be strictly adhered to. In the case of AoIR member information, all identifying data will be stripped out prior to any release to a GSRT. Students who favor social scientific as well as humanistic approaches are welcome. Research approaches could include both qualitative and quantitative methods or (more likely) a combination of both. Potential projects would include analyzing data that would give the Exec more accurate information on the demographic make-up of AoIR membership and/or conference participants (disciplines, affiliation, nationalities, etc.), identification of Internet related graduate programs, and creation of annotated subject related multi-disciplinary bibliographies to name a few. The research would result in professional-practice publications that would be available via the AoIR website some of which will be exclusively for AoIR members. This initial effort is a pilot program to see if there is sufficient interest in participation, the ability to execute association directed tasks, and the quality/utility of results. Sincerely, -TED Ted M. Coopman AoIR Graduate Student Representative Department of Communication University of Washington
1) What, exactly, does the exec have in mind? 2) Wouldn't it have been a good idea to discuss the formation of such a group on the air-grad list *first*, to see if there's interest in it? (I haven't seen any such discussion, which is why I'm asking...) --elijah On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Ted M Coopman wrote:
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ted M Coopman <coopman@u.washington.edu> Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] CFP: Graduate Student Research Group
Hello All,
I am happy to announce the formation of the Association of Internet Researchers Graduate Student Research Group (AoIR-GSRG) and a call for participants.
The purpose of the GSRG is to recruit graduate student members of AoIR who wish to take a more active role in the association. GSRG members would agree to serve one year as part of a pool of volunteers from which specific Graduate Student Research Teams (GSRT) would be drawn. GSRT participation would be on a voluntary basis. Individual teams would be tasked with a research project that would benefit the association and its members. The AoIR Executive Committee would determine the projects, the scope, and the disposition of the research performed. The rationale is that the association and its members can make better decisions with accurate information on topics of interest. More details on potential projects are below.
It is envisioned that any project would be distributed among team members so that the time commitment would be on par with an average research paper or less.
Members wanting to serve for more than one year may be renewed at the discretion of the Graduate Student Representative to the Executive Committee who acts as overall project coordinator.
Teams are largely self-managing, but will be required to submit research plans and meet specific deadlines. The Executive, through the Graduate Student Representative, would work collaboratively with each team to ensure that projects are successfully completed within the terms originally approved by the Executive.
GSRG and GSRT members will be recognized by the association at the annual conference, receive tasteful certificates (suitable for framing) and most of all the gratitude of the Executive Committee and the association. Service for AoIR in this way provides a significant credit to members' vitae and valuable experience working in a multi-disciplinary, distributed research team. In many cases, data and results will be made available to GSRT members for their own use in publications or presentations if they so desire.
It is the hope of the Exec that the experience will help reinforce the concept of the association as a field for action and interaction, and build strong ties across geography, disciplines, and outside of thematic interest areas.
GSRG applicants must be a graduate student and a paid member of AoIR.
Interested graduate students should contact Ted M. Coopman, Graduate Student Representative, at coopman@u.washington.edu.
Project Details Please note that all protocols concerning ethical research methods and the protection of personal data will be strictly adhered to. In the case of AoIR member information, all identifying data will be stripped out prior to any release to a GSRT.
Students who favor social scientific as well as humanistic approaches are welcome.
Research approaches could include both qualitative and quantitative methods or (more likely) a combination of both. Potential projects would include analyzing data that would give the Exec more accurate information on the demographic make-up of AoIR membership and/or conference participants (disciplines, affiliation, nationalities, etc.), identification of Internet related graduate programs, and creation of annotated subject related multi-disciplinary bibliographies to name a few. The research would result in professional-practice publications that would be available via the AoIR website some of which will be exclusively for AoIR members.
This initial effort is a pilot program to see if there is sufficient interest in participation, the ability to execute association directed tasks, and the quality/utility of results.
Sincerely,
-TED
Ted M. Coopman AoIR Graduate Student Representative Department of Communication University of Washington
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Well, this is a pilot program just to gauge interest. I think this is a great idea - since internet studies is so inherently interdisciplinary, it's nice to have a student forum for organizing this kind of collaboration. Joshua Joshua Raclaw - PhD student Department of Linguistics University of Colorado at Boulder Quoting elw@stderr.org: * * * 1) What, exactly, does the exec have in mind? * * 2) Wouldn't it have been a good idea to discuss the formation of such a * group on the air-grad list *first*, to see if there's interest in it? * (I haven't seen any such discussion, which is why I'm asking...) * * --elijah * * * On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Ted M Coopman wrote: * * > Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) * > From: Ted M Coopman <coopman@u.washington.edu> * > Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org * > To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org * > Subject: [Air-l] CFP: Graduate Student Research Group * > * > Hello All, * > * > I am happy to announce the formation of the Association of Internet * > Researchers Graduate Student Research Group (AoIR-GSRG) and a call for * > participants. * > * > The purpose of the GSRG is to recruit graduate student members of AoIR * > who wish to take a more active role in the association. GSRG members * > would agree to serve one year as part of a pool of volunteers from which * > specific Graduate Student Research Teams (GSRT) would be drawn. GSRT * > participation would be on a voluntary basis. Individual teams would be * > tasked with a research project that would benefit the association and * > its members. The AoIR Executive Committee would determine the projects, * > the scope, and the disposition of the research performed. The rationale * > is that the association and its members can make better decisions with * > accurate information on topics of interest. More details on potential * > projects are below. * > * > It is envisioned that any project would be distributed among team * > members so that the time commitment would be on par with an average * > research paper or less. * > * > Members wanting to serve for more than one year may be renewed at the * > discretion of the Graduate Student Representative to the Executive * > Committee who acts as overall project coordinator. * > * > Teams are largely self-managing, but will be required to submit research * > plans and meet specific deadlines. The Executive, through the Graduate * > Student Representative, would work collaboratively with each team to * > ensure that projects are successfully completed within the terms * > originally approved by the Executive. * > * > GSRG and GSRT members will be recognized by the association at the * > annual conference, receive tasteful certificates (suitable for framing) * > and most of all the gratitude of the Executive Committee and the * > association. Service for AoIR in this way provides a significant credit * > to members' vitae and valuable experience working in a * > multi-disciplinary, distributed research team. In many cases, data and * > results will be made available to GSRT members for their own use in * > publications or presentations if they so desire. * > * > It is the hope of the Exec that the experience will help reinforce the * > concept of the association as a field for action and interaction, and * > build strong ties across geography, disciplines, and outside of thematic * > interest areas. * > * > GSRG applicants must be a graduate student and a paid member of AoIR. * > * > Interested graduate students should contact Ted M. Coopman, Graduate * > Student Representative, at coopman@u.washington.edu. * > * > * > Project Details Please note that all protocols concerning ethical * > research methods and the protection of personal data will be strictly * > adhered to. In the case of AoIR member information, all identifying * > data will be stripped out prior to any release to a GSRT. * > * > Students who favor social scientific as well as humanistic approaches * > are welcome. * > * > Research approaches could include both qualitative and quantitative * > methods or (more likely) a combination of both. Potential projects * > would include analyzing data that would give the Exec more accurate * > information on the demographic make-up of AoIR membership and/or * > conference participants (disciplines, affiliation, nationalities, etc.), * > identification of Internet related graduate programs, and creation of * > annotated subject related multi-disciplinary bibliographies to name a * > few. The research would result in professional-practice publications * > that would be available via the AoIR website some of which will be * > exclusively for AoIR members. * > * > This initial effort is a pilot program to see if there is sufficient * > interest in participation, the ability to execute association directed * > tasks, and the quality/utility of results. * > * > Sincerely, * > * > -TED * > * > Ted M. 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the grad student forum for AoIR is air-grad@aoir.org http:// listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-grad-aoir.org . it was created during the first executive as i recall. jeremy hunsinger jhuns@vt.edu www.cddc.vt.edu jeremy.tmttlt.com www.tmttlt.com () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.stswiki.org/ sts wiki http://cfp.learning-inquiry.info/ LI-the journal
I have a few questions: What sort of things are to be produced? What is this new organizational structure's relationship to AoIR working groups? Is AoIR going to become some sort of research consultancy, where AoIR produces research instead of the members producing research? What is the audience of this research? will it be vetted? by whom? Who decides who gets to be on which project, given the natural tendency for some projects to be more interesting than others? How does this fit with the mission and bylaws? On Mar 20, 2006, at 4:08 PM, elw@stderr.org wrote:
1) What, exactly, does the exec have in mind?
2) Wouldn't it have been a good idea to discuss the formation of such a group on the air-grad list *first*, to see if there's interest in it? (I haven't seen any such discussion, which is why I'm asking...)
--elijah
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See in-line comments. Ted M. Coopman Department of Communication University of Washington On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
I have a few questions:
What sort of things are to be produced?
Currently, we are trying to get a better picture on who attends the conferences. Please see the list of potential projects in the CFP.
What is this new organizational structure's relationship to AoIR working groups?
No specific relationship. These are more ad hoc.
Is AoIR going to become some sort of research consultancy, where AoIR produces research instead of the members producing research?
No. I don't know where this question is coming from. Please refer to the terms in the CFP.
What is the audience of this research?
This depends on the project. Mainly the exec, secondly the membership, lastly the general population interested in internet research. will it be vetted? by whom? The exec and members that the exec may tap with specific expertise.
Who decides who gets to be on which project, given the natural tendency for some projects to be more interesting than others?
Anyone who qualifies (a student and a member) wants to participate in s GSRT will be able to, so it's self-selection. Many hands make light work. In the case of topics that may not seem interesting I will likely ask people to step up. I have faith that those who volunteer for the GSRG will during the year feel obligated to be a member of a GSRT. Overall, I will manage the project as Grad rep.
How does this fit with the mission and bylaws?
Looks like it fits right in there to me, do you have some specific concerns that this project steps out-of-bounds in specific or in general? -TED
On Mar 20, 2006, at 4:08 PM, elw@stderr.org wrote:
1) What, exactly, does the exec have in mind?
2) Wouldn't it have been a good idea to discuss the formation of such a group on the air-grad list *first*, to see if there's interest in it? (I haven't seen any such discussion, which is why I'm asking...)
--elijah
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i snipped and answered in line.
What is this new organizational structure's relationship to AoIR working groups?
No specific relationship. These are more ad hoc.
Umm, you can't really be more ad hoc than a working group. the working group is only determined by its mission. these look to have more than a mission.
Is AoIR going to become some sort of research consultancy, where AoIR produces research instead of the members producing research?
No. I don't know where this question is coming from. Please refer to the terms in the CFP.
This question is whether this will be considered a published paper's series of AoIR, commissioned by AoIR and published by AoIR. If that is so, then AoIR is producing research, which is a significantly different project than any of its former projects. Promoting research is somewhat different than producing research. Producing research seems to be the direction this is going. That is fine, but you might have to update the mission and bylaws, because neither mention this type of activity in any way. They talk of promoting, disseminating, etc.
Who decides who gets to be on which project, given the natural tendency for some projects to be more interesting than others?
Anyone who qualifies (a student and a member) wants to participate in s GSRT will be able to, so it's self-selection. Many hands make light work. In the case of topics that may not seem interesting I will likely ask people to step up. I have faith that those who volunteer for the GSRG will during the year feel obligated to be a member of a GSRT. Overall, I will manage the project as Grad rep.
How does this fit with the mission and bylaws?
Looks like it fits right in there to me, do you have some specific concerns that this project steps out-of-bounds in specific or in general?
it transforms the organization from one that promotes the research of its members to one that produces research under its own auspices. it is a minor change, but unaccounted for in the mission or bylaws. I think. It depends on how narrowly or broadly you read the terms. The difference in my mind, and this is just me probably, is at what point does AoIR now become something more like Pew Internet and American Life project in publishing data and reports. Is that the sort of work that will eventually be performed. jeremy hunsinger jhuns@vt.edu www.cddc.vt.edu jeremy.tmttlt.com www.tmttlt.com () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments http://www.stswiki.org/ sts wiki http://cfp.learning-inquiry.info/ LI-the journal
I continue to be concerned about the attempts I see to ghettoize graduate students within AoIR. These proposals are usual presented as ways to increase student participation but if approved would serve to separate graduate students into group's of lower status within the organization or at minimum would create a secondary administrative structure. AoIR has an excellent history of graduate student inclusion at all levels of the organization. In my five years of membership, I have done a wide variety of things to assist the organization and have never been hindered because I am a graduate student. During that time I have, likewise, seen other graduate student members who have been involved in all levels of the organization. The only separation of graduate students from the general membership that I find is the decreased organizational dues cost, a status that is available to other classes scholars as well. I think this proposal is an excellent example of the issue that concerns me. Graduate students are being asked to step forward and volunteer to be members of a pool to conduct research projects that sound more like organizational evaluation efforts than academic research. The title of the project separates these assignments from any other work the organization might choice to have done by an ad hoc committee, one that would not be burdened with a titling limitation on membership. If the work needs to be done then create ad hoc committees/working groups to fulfill the need, that way membership could be sought throughout the organization. This would also allow for those who are truly interested in the project to volunteer their service to the organization, rather than the current proposal that requires a graduate student to volunteer their service to the Graduate Student Representative for later assignment to currently ill-defined projects. This would create organizational transparency something I feel has been a core value of AoIR. I believe that before projects to include graduate students should be undertaken those making the decision should conduct an analysis of the roadblocks that are impeding graduate students from involvement. First, are there in fact roadblocks? If so, are the roadblocks you find ones we can control organizationally? If they are outside our control can we help members find work-arounds for the specific issue? One of the ways to assess the existence of and potentially the types of roadblocks involved is to talk to those who you perceive to be affected, which could have been done on the graduate student list. In truth, the low activity on the graduate student list may answer the question in part, students are active in the main list and likely see no need for a separate list. However, since the infrastructure is in place it would have been good to use it to start the discussion even if the discussion then needed to move to the main list. In short, to protect from the perception of ghettoization first a analysis should be done to establish that a true need exists. Then a more persuasive argument must be presented that establishes the value of even pilot projects within the organization. Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Future Faculty Teaching Fellow (2005-2006) - School of Informatics, Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis (IUPUI), Indianapolis IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com Quoting Ted M Coopman <coopman@u.washington.edu>:
See in-line comments.
Ted M. Coopman Department of Communication University of Washington
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Jeremy Hunsinger wrote:
I have a few questions:
What sort of things are to be produced?
Currently, we are trying to get a better picture on who attends the conferences. Please see the list of potential projects in the CFP.
What is this new organizational structure's relationship to AoIR working groups?
No specific relationship. These are more ad hoc.
Is AoIR going to become some sort of research consultancy, where AoIR produces research instead of the members producing research?
No. I don't know where this question is coming from. Please refer to the terms in the CFP.
What is the audience of this research?
This depends on the project. Mainly the exec, secondly the membership, lastly the general population interested in internet research.
will it be vetted? by whom?
The exec and members that the exec may tap with specific expertise.
Who decides who gets to be on which project, given the natural tendency for some projects to be more interesting than others?
Anyone who qualifies (a student and a member) wants to participate in s GSRT will be able to, so it's self-selection. Many hands make light work. In the case of topics that may not seem interesting I will likely ask people to step up. I have faith that those who volunteer for the GSRG will during the year feel obligated to be a member of a GSRT. Overall, I will manage the project as Grad rep.
How does this fit with the mission and bylaws?
Looks like it fits right in there to me, do you have some specific concerns that this project steps out-of-bounds in specific or in general?
-TED
On Mar 20, 2006, at 4:08 PM, elw@stderr.org wrote:
1) What, exactly, does the exec have in mind?
2) Wouldn't it have been a good idea to discuss the formation of such a group on the air-grad list *first*, to see if there's interest in it? (I haven't seen any such discussion, which is why I'm asking...)
--elijah
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All, I thought the rationale and potential topics were pretty clearly laid out in the CFP. Could you be more specific? I was handed the admin for the air-grad list and it appeared to have very little activity on it. Actually, prior to being notified that I was running the list I didn't even know it existed and I have been a member for years. I personally have mixed feelings about a grad only list separate from the general list, but that's not my call. At any rate, it became apparent to me that the Exec could use some help and I thought that some of the Graduate Student members may want to step up. There was a need and I saw a potential to involve my constituency. As I stated below, this is a pilot project to gage interest in the idea, I'm just sending it to the general list to make sure everyone hears about it. So, in my view, I'm doing what you ask, which is putting it out there to see if there is interest. Interested? -TED Ted M. Coopman Department of Communication University of Washington On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 elw@stderr.org wrote:
1) What, exactly, does the exec have in mind?
2) Wouldn't it have been a good idea to discuss the formation of such a group on the air-grad list *first*, to see if there's interest in it? (I haven't seen any such discussion, which is why I'm asking...)
--elijah
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006, Ted M Coopman wrote:
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ted M Coopman <coopman@u.washington.edu> Reply-To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] CFP: Graduate Student Research Group
Hello All,
I am happy to announce the formation of the Association of Internet Researchers Graduate Student Research Group (AoIR-GSRG) and a call for participants.
The purpose of the GSRG is to recruit graduate student members of AoIR who wish to take a more active role in the association. GSRG members would agree to serve one year as part of a pool of volunteers from which specific Graduate Student Research Teams (GSRT) would be drawn. GSRT participation would be on a voluntary basis. Individual teams would be tasked with a research project that would benefit the association and its members. The AoIR Executive Committee would determine the projects, the scope, and the disposition of the research performed. The rationale is that the association and its members can make better decisions with accurate information on topics of interest. More details on potential projects are below.
It is envisioned that any project would be distributed among team members so that the time commitment would be on par with an average research paper or less.
Members wanting to serve for more than one year may be renewed at the discretion of the Graduate Student Representative to the Executive Committee who acts as overall project coordinator.
Teams are largely self-managing, but will be required to submit research plans and meet specific deadlines. The Executive, through the Graduate Student Representative, would work collaboratively with each team to ensure that projects are successfully completed within the terms originally approved by the Executive.
GSRG and GSRT members will be recognized by the association at the annual conference, receive tasteful certificates (suitable for framing) and most of all the gratitude of the Executive Committee and the association. Service for AoIR in this way provides a significant credit to members' vitae and valuable experience working in a multi-disciplinary, distributed research team. In many cases, data and results will be made available to GSRT members for their own use in publications or presentations if they so desire.
It is the hope of the Exec that the experience will help reinforce the concept of the association as a field for action and interaction, and build strong ties across geography, disciplines, and outside of thematic interest areas.
GSRG applicants must be a graduate student and a paid member of AoIR.
Interested graduate students should contact Ted M. Coopman, Graduate Student Representative, at coopman@u.washington.edu.
Project Details Please note that all protocols concerning ethical research methods and the protection of personal data will be strictly adhered to. In the case of AoIR member information, all identifying data will be stripped out prior to any release to a GSRT.
Students who favor social scientific as well as humanistic approaches are welcome.
Research approaches could include both qualitative and quantitative methods or (more likely) a combination of both. Potential projects would include analyzing data that would give the Exec more accurate information on the demographic make-up of AoIR membership and/or conference participants (disciplines, affiliation, nationalities, etc.), identification of Internet related graduate programs, and creation of annotated subject related multi-disciplinary bibliographies to name a few. The research would result in professional-practice publications that would be available via the AoIR website some of which will be exclusively for AoIR members.
This initial effort is a pilot program to see if there is sufficient interest in participation, the ability to execute association directed tasks, and the quality/utility of results.
Sincerely,
-TED
Ted M. Coopman AoIR Graduate Student Representative Department of Communication University of Washington
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I thought the rationale and potential topics were pretty clearly laid out in the CFP. Could you be more specific?
My definition of "clear" and yours are apparently rather different. As Jeremy asks - just what are these groups going to do? Are they seperate, supplementary, or otherwise related to various working groups? How? What's the constitutional relationship between them?
I was handed the admin for the air-grad list and it appeared to have very little activity on it. Actually, prior to being notified that I was running the list I didn't even know it existed and I have been a member for years. I personally have mixed feelings about a grad only list separate from the general list, but that's not my call.
There have been several attempts to revive the grad list. You might choose to make such an attempt rather than starting a new initiative.
At any rate, it became apparent to me that the Exec could use some help and I thought that some of the Graduate Student members may want to step up. There was a need and I saw a potential to involve my constituency.
Your constituency - of which most of the respondents to this thread so far have been a part - tends to get a little irked when its representative goes off on a wild tangent and spins up new initiatives without at least consulting with said constituency. That said - maybe you are trying to just gauge interest. Your call for participation, however does NOT (emphatically *N-O-T*) give that impression. I, at least, am perceiving this as an idea spring forth full-formed from the head of Zeus.
As I stated below, this is a pilot project to gage interest in the idea, I'm just sending it to the general list to make sure everyone hears about it. So, in my view, I'm doing what you ask, which is putting it out there to see if there is interest.
Announcing the formation of a new set of (perhaps elite, perhaps desirable to join) working groups is waaaaaaay different than gauging interest. I suggest that perhaps you might want to write us a 5-8 page summary of your vision for this group, post it to the list, and let the list kick it around for a little while. Exec folks - what is your stake in this? And could you perhaps guide Ted a bit? --elijah
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