Just a proud sidebar to the mini-thread on Murray Turoff's EIES system. Murray and Roxanne Hiltz wrote one of the first books on the possibilities of what grew up to be the internet: Hiltz, S. Roxanne and Murray Turoff. 1978. The Network Nation. Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley. I'd been playing on this with them since 1976, and I was proud then -- and now -- that they explicitly named The Network Nation after Paul Craven and my 1973 article, "The Network City" (in Sociological Inquiry). Paul and I did call the turn towards networking, but nary a word about the (proto) Internet. Barry ___________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman@chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 ___________________________________________________________________