Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis
Hi, all I guess my posting to the AOIR list is an anusual one! I am based in Melbourne, Australia. I have been a Ph.D student at RMIT University for 3 years...then had to leave due to some "lovely misunderstandings" with my supervisor. As a result I am left with a) Virtually complete ph.d Thesis in the Area of Internet Communications but no university to submit the Thesis at (have to shop for another uni now) b) difficult job of finding a uni I am not after living allowance etc. ( I got a uni teaching job, thx God) but i am looking for a university where i can submit my thesis ASAP (if its Aus, i guess i will have to wait for at least two years before i can submit). What i am looking for is opportunity to continue my studies free of charge ( e.g. fee-exemption scholarship such as RTS) as well as opportunity to complete the thesis in Internet Communications without moving out of Melbourne. In return, I will be more than happy to contribute to the univerisity's research activities, online teaching etc. Any helpers? Or may be some good advice I feel a bit shy to use AOIR for the purpose of finding good home for my thesis...but given all the energy i put into my thesis already, am feeling a bit desperate :). Thank you for your help. Michael -- "My Body is my Temple" "Be The Change You Want to See In The World." Gandhi
Dear AIR I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience. Any suggestions? Thanking you Darren Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia
Hi Darren Web monkey is good http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/authoring/html_basics/ And the w3c guide to Getting Started with HTML http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/ Cheers, Lisa Lisa Gye Lecturer in Media and Communications Swinburne University of Technology http://www.swinmc.net/lisa/ Tel: +613 92148345 The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. Dorothy Parker
darren j <darrenj@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> 5/04/2007 3:43 pm >>> Dear AIR
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Hi Darren. I used to use the Webtutor basic one ("So, you want to make a Web Page"). It's available online at http://www.pagetutor.com/html_tutor/index.html or students can download to their own PC and use at will offline ... comes with everything students need and they can keep going from there as far as they need ... Cheers, Hughie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Gye" <lgye@groupwise.swin.edu.au> To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [Air-l] HTML tutorial wanted
Hi Darren
Web monkey is good http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/authoring/html_basics/
And the w3c guide to Getting Started with HTML http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/Guide/
Cheers, Lisa
Lisa Gye Lecturer in Media and Communications Swinburne University of Technology http://www.swinmc.net/lisa/ Tel: +613 92148345 The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity. Dorothy Parker
darren j <darrenj@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> 5/04/2007 3:43 pm >>> Dear AIR
I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience.
Any suggestions?
Thanking you Darren
Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia
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when i was teaching html at rmit, we used to use : http://www.w3schools.com/html/. On 4/5/07, darren j <darrenj@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
Dear AIR
I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience.
Any suggestions?
Thanking you Darren
Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia
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htmldog.com ________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org on behalf of darren j Sent: Thu 4/5/2007 1:43 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: [Air-l] HTML tutorial wanted Dear AIR I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience. Any suggestions? Thanking you Darren Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org <http://aoir.org/> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
HTML Goodies -- http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/ :-D. On Thursday, April 5, 2007, at 01:43 AM, darren j wrote:
Dear AIR
I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience.
Any suggestions?
Thanking you Darren
Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia
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Ian Graham of the University of Toronto is one of the best authors on this topic and an academic has an on-line guide. The books he wrote and may still be writing are my main source since 1995. on-line guide here. http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/htmlindex.html Peter Timusk, B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa (2006-2007). just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week. On 5-Apr-07, at 11:34 AM, Deanya Lattimore wrote:
HTML Goodies --
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/
:-D.
On Thursday, April 5, 2007, at 01:43 AM, darren j wrote:
Dear AIR
I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience.
Any suggestions?
Thanking you Darren
Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia
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Hello Just a note to thank everybody who suggested HTML tutorials. I have many to sift through now!! Darren Quoting Peter Timusk <ptimusk@sympatico.ca>:
Ian Graham of the University of Toronto is one of the best authors on this topic and an academic has an on-line guide. The books he wrote and may still be writing are my main source since 1995.
on-line guide here.
http://www.utoronto.ca/webdocs/HTMLdocs/NewHTML/htmlindex.html
Peter Timusk, B.Math statistics (2002), B.A. legal studies (2006) Carleton University Systems Science Graduate student, University of Ottawa (2006-2007). just trying to stay linear. Read by hundreds of lurkers every week.
On 5-Apr-07, at 11:34 AM, Deanya Lattimore wrote:
HTML Goodies --
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/html/
:-D.
On Thursday, April 5, 2007, at 01:43 AM, darren j wrote:
Dear AIR
I am looking for a simple, quick, user friendly HTML tutorial for my first year students, who have no background experience.
Any suggestions?
Thanking you Darren
Darren Jorgensen Internet Studies Curtin University Western Australia
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Dear Michael, I'm sure you are not the only PhD student in this predicament. So, if you're looking for a university that might entertain your proposal (but it will cost you some money - specifically 140 000 Patakas [the Macao official currency: 7.8 Patakas = 1US dollar]), you might try the Macau University of Science and Technology. Click on: http://www.must.edu.mo Cheers! Peter The Chinese University of Hong Kong --- Michael Baron <webbaron@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, all I guess my posting to the AOIR list is an anusual one!
I am based in Melbourne, Australia. I have been a Ph.D student at RMIT University for 3 years...then had to leave due to some "lovely misunderstandings" with my supervisor. As a result I am left with a) Virtually complete ph.d Thesis in the Area of Internet Communications but no university to submit the Thesis at (have to shop for another uni now) b) difficult job of finding a uni I am not after living allowance etc. ( I got a uni teaching job, thx God) but i am looking for a university where i can submit my thesis ASAP (if its Aus, i guess i will have to wait for at least two years before i can submit).
What i am looking for is opportunity to continue my studies free of charge ( e.g. fee-exemption scholarship such as RTS) as well as opportunity to complete the thesis in Internet Communications without moving out of Melbourne.
In return, I will be more than happy to contribute to the univerisity's research activities, online teaching etc.
Any helpers? Or may be some good advice I feel a bit shy to use AOIR for the purpose of finding good home for my thesis...but given all the energy i put into my thesis already, am feeling a bit desperate :).
Thank you for your help. Michael -- "My Body is my Temple" "Be The Change You Want to See In The World." Gandhi _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Holey Moley Michael, That sounds just awful. I'm afraid I can't help you but am sending you lots of good vibes. Surely you must have some recourse with your university? I can't imagine them wanting your nearly complete PhD thesis to leave their research pool? Is this really a common occurrence? In Canada, it takes an average of 6.5years to finish a PhD in social sciences and humanities. Speaking in year 5, I can say I feel pretty good that I will be done before the average time. But I cannot imagine what I would do if I were behooved to leave my university due to a conflict with my supervisor. I know that at my university, there are other things I could do. Has this happened to anyone else on the list? A huge investment of time and money by the candidate, the committee and the university.... On 4/5/07, peter jakubowicz <peterjak_20@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Michael,
I'm sure you are not the only PhD student in this predicament. So, if you're looking for a university that might entertain your proposal (but it will cost you some money - specifically 140 000 Patakas [the Macao official currency: 7.8 Patakas = 1US dollar]), you might try the Macau University of Science and Technology. Click on: http://www.must.edu.mo
Cheers!
Peter The Chinese University of Hong Kong
--- Michael Baron <webbaron@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, all I guess my posting to the AOIR list is an anusual one!
I am based in Melbourne, Australia. I have been a Ph.D student at RMIT University for 3 years...then had to leave due to some "lovely misunderstandings" with my supervisor. As a result I am left with a) Virtually complete ph.d Thesis in the Area of Internet Communications but no university to submit the Thesis at (have to shop for another uni now) b) difficult job of finding a uni I am not after living allowance etc. ( I got a uni teaching job, thx God) but i am looking for a university where i can submit my thesis ASAP (if its Aus, i guess i will have to wait for at least two years before i can submit).
What i am looking for is opportunity to continue my studies free of charge ( e.g. fee-exemption scholarship such as RTS) as well as opportunity to complete the thesis in Internet Communications without moving out of Melbourne.
In return, I will be more than happy to contribute to the univerisity's research activities, online teaching etc.
Any helpers? Or may be some good advice I feel a bit shy to use AOIR for the purpose of finding good home for my thesis...but given all the energy i put into my thesis already, am feeling a bit desperate :).
Thank you for your help. Michael -- "My Body is my Temple" "Be The Change You Want to See In The World." Gandhi _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Michael: I'm sorry for your situation, and know how awful it is. My original Ph.D. adviser tried to run me out of the program by trying to persuade the rest of the faculty that they shouldn't serve on my committee. Fortunately, no one believed the charges he leveled against me and I finished my Ph.D. under a different adviser. If you are in a similar fix, can't you sue for libel or slander? I suspect just the threat of that will get your department to bail you out, though I'm glad I didn't have to test that theory myself. Best wishes, Christian Nelson
I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis? I also sympathize. My advisor used my dissertation to shake things up in my department and I ended up with a committee that was mostly out-of-department. It also took an extra year. I'm very proud of what I produced but am not sure that the extra time was worth it. For those that are interested, my dissertation was a case study on Internet surveys. I created a survey system that encourages best methods of survey design as defined by research (http://birat.net). You may also be interested in the review of literature at http://balch.org/lsu/dissertation. Best regards, Reverend Captain Charles Vickroy Balch M.Ed. MBA Ph.D. (I'll only use that title once) -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Christian Nelson Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis Michael: I'm sorry for your situation, and know how awful it is. My original Ph.D. adviser tried to run me out of the program by trying to persuade the rest of the faculty that they shouldn't serve on my committee. Fortunately, no one believed the charges he leveled against me and I finished my Ph.D. under a different adviser. If you are in a similar fix, can't you sue for libel or slander? I suspect just the threat of that will get your department to bail you out, though I'm glad I didn't have to test that theory myself. Best wishes, Christian Nelson _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Congratulations Charlie it looks great considering a few of our exchanges. You made it. -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Balch Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 3:08 PM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis? I also sympathize. My advisor used my dissertation to shake things up in my department and I ended up with a committee that was mostly out-of-department. It also took an extra year. I'm very proud of what I produced but am not sure that the extra time was worth it. For those that are interested, my dissertation was a case study on Internet surveys. I created a survey system that encourages best methods of survey design as defined by research (http://birat.net). You may also be interested in the review of literature at http://balch.org/lsu/dissertation. Best regards, Reverend Captain Charles Vickroy Balch M.Ed. MBA Ph.D. (I'll only use that title once) -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Christian Nelson Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis Michael: I'm sorry for your situation, and know how awful it is. My original Ph.D. adviser tried to run me out of the program by trying to persuade the rest of the faculty that they shouldn't serve on my committee. Fortunately, no one believed the charges he leveled against me and I finished my Ph.D. under a different adviser. If you are in a similar fix, can't you sue for libel or slander? I suspect just the threat of that will get your department to bail you out, though I'm glad I didn't have to test that theory myself. Best wishes, Christian Nelson _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
in the uk a masters student writes a dissertation a phd student writes a thesis On 4/5/07, Charlie Balch <charlie@balch.org> wrote:
I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis?
I also sympathize. My advisor used my dissertation to shake things up in my department and I ended up with a committee that was mostly out-of-department. It also took an extra year. I'm very proud of what I produced but am not sure that the extra time was worth it.
For those that are interested, my dissertation was a case study on Internet surveys. I created a survey system that encourages best methods of survey design as defined by research (http://birat.net). You may also be interested in the review of literature at http://balch.org/lsu/dissertation.
Best regards,
Reverend Captain Charles Vickroy Balch M.Ed. MBA Ph.D. (I'll only use that title once)
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Christian Nelson Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis
Michael: I'm sorry for your situation, and know how awful it is. My original Ph.D. adviser tried to run me out of the program by trying to persuade the rest of the faculty that they shouldn't serve on my committee. Fortunately, no one believed the charges he leveled against me and I finished my Ph.D. under a different adviser. If you are in a similar fix, can't you sue for libel or slander? I suspect just the threat of that will get your department to bail you out, though I'm glad I didn't have to test that theory myself. Best wishes, Christian Nelson _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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In Australia, Ph.D is usually referred to as Doctoral Thesis. The word "dissertation" does not appear to be used much On 4/6/07, Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
in the uk a masters student writes a dissertation a phd student writes a thesis
On 4/5/07, Charlie Balch <charlie@balch.org> wrote:
I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis?
I also sympathize. My advisor used my dissertation to shake things up in my department and I ended up with a committee that was mostly out-of-department. It also took an extra year. I'm very proud of what I produced but am not sure that the extra time was worth it.
For those that are interested, my dissertation was a case study on Internet surveys. I created a survey system that encourages best methods of survey design as defined by research (http://birat.net). You may also be interested in the review of literature at http://balch.org/lsu/dissertation.
Best regards,
Reverend Captain Charles Vickroy Balch M.Ed. MBA Ph.D. (I'll only use that title once)
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Christian Nelson Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 9:12 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-l] Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis
Michael: I'm sorry for your situation, and know how awful it is. My original Ph.D . adviser tried to run me out of the program by trying to persuade the rest of the faculty that they shouldn't serve on my committee. Fortunately, no one believed the charges he leveled against me and I finished my Ph.D. under a different adviser. If you are in a similar fix, can't you sue for libel or slander? I suspect just the threat of that will get your department to bail you out, though I'm glad I didn't have to test that theory myself. Best wishes, Christian Nelson _______________________________________________ The air-l@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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--- Martin Garthwaite <marting@gmail.com> wrote:
in the uk a masters student writes a dissertation a phd student writes a thesis
and also in the UK an undergraduate can also write a dissertation. I wrote one for my degree in Politics in 1977. D. Dominic Pinto http://www.ecademy.com/user/dominicpinto Live or work in Covent Garden or Westminster? Check this out: http://www.westmin.co.uk/index.php e-m: dominic.pinto@ieee.org M: +44 780 302-8268 Ph: +44 207 379-8341 In the U.S. M/Cell: +1 215 667-3001
In Aus and NZ the thesis is usually the only examinable thing in the PhD degree. Things are starting to change, with some coursework being introduced in some disciplines, but essentially The Thesis is The (only) Thing that matters. I have two Masters degrees from a New Zealand University, each of which I wrote a thesis for. One included coursework and one (an MPhil by research) didn't - it was examined totally on the thesis. M-H On 06/04/2007, at 5:07 AM, Charlie Balch wrote:
I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis? Nelson
In Australia we usually use the word 'thesis' for written work resulting from original research required for honours, masters by research and PhD. Collins dictionary and thesaurus show that 'thesis' and 'dissertation' are synonyms. Some other languages use words similar to 'dissertation' (derived from Lat dissertare) and 'thesis' as synonyms. DCA is a different thing, of course. Suzana At 10:11 AM 6/04/2007, you wrote:
In Aus and NZ the thesis is usually the only examinable thing in the PhD degree. Things are starting to change, with some coursework being introduced in some disciplines, but essentially The Thesis is The (only) Thing that matters.
I have two Masters degrees from a New Zealand University, each of which I wrote a thesis for. One included coursework and one (an MPhil by research) didn't - it was examined totally on the thesis.
M-H
On 06/04/2007, at 5:07 AM, Charlie Balch wrote:
I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis? Nelson
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Semantics aside, doesn't this request strike anyone as a bit odd? I'm genuinely perplexed: I can't imagine a doctoral program taking on a late-stage student on these terms. Is there something I don't understand about Australian universities?
Lisa, Michael said: "i am looking for a university where i can submit my thesis ASAP (if its Aus, i guess i will have to wait for at least two years before i can submit)" so I understand he would consider a university outside Australia. At 11:24 AM 6/04/2007, you wrote:
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Hi all. I've just returned from two days listening to bellbirds under the stars in the Conondale ranges, south-east Queensland. Very relaxing. At the risk of once again appearing anally retentive in the face of language, a thesis is an idea or thought process and a dissertation is the expression of a thesis (they are often used interchangeably). A thesis can be any idea and is not necessarily associated with research at any particular level. For example it is quite legitimate to hold a thesis that explains why the US invaded Iraq, which may or may not be remotely associated with anything that you have formally studied. Until you submit it some textual form, however, it's not assessable. In other words, in a research/institutional context, your dissertation is the textual expression encapsulating the thesis contained in your program of research. You submit the disstertation so that your peers/supervisors can assess the quality of the research (including the thesis and the testing of the thesis) and thereby award (or not) the qualification sought. Cheers, Hughie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzana Sukovic" <suzana.sukovic@uts.edu.au> To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Air-l] Ph.D. student is looking for a good home for his Thesis
In Australia we usually use the word 'thesis' for written work resulting from original research required for honours, masters by research and PhD. Collins dictionary and thesaurus show that 'thesis' and 'dissertation' are synonyms. Some other languages use words similar to 'dissertation' (derived from Lat dissertare) and 'thesis' as synonyms. DCA is a different thing, of course. Suzana
At 10:11 AM 6/04/2007, you wrote:
In Aus and NZ the thesis is usually the only examinable thing in the PhD degree. Things are starting to change, with some coursework being introduced in some disciplines, but essentially The Thesis is The (only) Thing that matters.
I have two Masters degrees from a New Zealand University, each of which I wrote a thesis for. One included coursework and one (an MPhil by research) didn't - it was examined totally on the thesis.
M-H
On 06/04/2007, at 5:07 AM, Charlie Balch wrote:
I know things are different in other nations but don't Ph.D. students write a dissertation and masters students write a thesis? Nelson
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Just by way of background... A PhD in Australia comprises a 100,000 word thesis, original contribution to knowledge, independently examined by 2 and sometimes 3 scholars not associated with the home university. Entry is normally after completion of a 4-year honours undergraduate degree in which the final year includes a 15,000 word thesis/dissertation (*grin*). There is no coursework in a PhD. PhD students routinely take at least 3 and often 4 years' fulltime to complete - but, that said, it's not a time-based degree. Some do it in 2 years fulltime. BEcause there is no coursework and it is not time based, it can be done parttime, at distance etc. Of course, that applies in fields that are not lab or equipment based. There's also major differences in the funding and recruitment models which reflect a more technocratic approach to research training (as PhD programs are now considered by the government), as well as the more centralised control over some parts of the university system in Australia, as well as yadayada...no need to bore everyone :). Matt Dr Matthew Allen Associate Professor Internet Studies Curtin University of Technology, CRICOS 00301J Australia m.allen@curtin.edu.au http://smi.curtin.edu.au/netstudies/allen.htm <https://email.curtin.edu.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://smi.curtin.edu.au/netstudies/allen.htm> +61 8 92663511 (v) +61 8 9266 3166 (f) President, Association of Internet Researchers http://www.aoir.org <https://email.curtin.edu.au/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.aoir.org/>
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