Which is the preferred usage: "login" or "logon". For my paper writing, I'd like to standardize on one. Google shows: "login": 218 Million hits "logon": 6.7 Million hits so there is a 30:1 preference for login vs. logon. But I'd love to hear some more debate. Barry _____________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 To network is to live; to live is to network () ASCII ribbon campaign -- don't use HTML email /\ _____________________________________________________________________
Let's ask the computer: [james@MinistryOfInformation]$bash --login $~ [james@MinistryOfInformation]$ $~ [james@MinistryOfInformation]$logout $~ [james@MinistryOfInformation]$bash --logon bash: --logon: invalid option <snip> I think that's a vote for login (and logout). ;) --J On Mar 2, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
Which is the preferred usage: "login" or "logon". For my paper writing, I'd like to standardize on one.
Google shows: "login": 218 Million hits "logon": 6.7 Million hits
so there is a 30:1 preference for login vs. logon. But I'd love to hear some more debate.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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Let's ask the computer:
[james@MinistryOfInformation]$bash --login $~ [james@MinistryOfInformation]$ $~ [james@MinistryOfInformation]$logout $~ [james@MinistryOfInformation]$bash --logon bash: --logon: invalid option
<snip>
I think that's a vote for login (and logout).
;)
--J
Common usage - as in what millions of users do every day - might be a helpful pointer. www.ebay.com, for example, welcomes visiters as follows: Hello! Sign in/out ===== Dominic Pinto e-m dominic.pinto@ieee.org M: +44 780 302-8268 Ph/Fax: +44 207 379-8341
Barry, I worked in the computer industry for a number of years and believe that "log in" is used the most. It's also metaphorically consistent with the dimensionality of cyberspace, if one accepts Gibson's term. But, here's a hypothetical differentiator. Accessing the Internet is a 2-stage process: first, firing up your PC, and then connecting it to the Net. The first might be a "log on", which is consistent with the old term of "booting up", a metaphor for pulling on boots by tugging on the leather loop sometimes placed at the back for that purpose. So, you log on to your computer, as you would pull on your boots. Once on your computer, you connect to the Internet (unless you're always connected) by logging in to your access system. Likewise, accessing any password-protected website is a matter of getting "in", as into a building. This difference has no basis in reality, except in my imagination, but it makes sense to me....Alex Kuskis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Wellman" <wellman@chass.utoronto.ca> To: "aoir list" <air-l@aoir.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: [Air-l] login/logon
Which is the preferred usage: "login" or "logon". For my paper writing, I'd like to standardize on one.
Google shows: "login": 218 Million hits "logon": 6.7 Million hits
so there is a 30:1 preference for login vs. logon. But I'd love to hear some more debate.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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we should also note that for many unix-based systems (which is quite a few systems, both historically and currently) the default command to login is login. likewise the command to remotely login is rlogin. A login appeared in Version 6 AT&T UNIX according to the osx man page. according the the linux manpage, theirs was derived from bsd login for hp-ux. jeremy hunsinger jhuns@vt.edu www.cddc.vt.edu jeremy.tmttlt.com www.tmttlt.com () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail /\ - against microsoft attachments
Have always heard login - I'd definitely stay with this. logon seems to reference a console or mainframe; it also has a broader vowel sound which makes it a bit awkward. - Alan On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Barry Wellman wrote:
Which is the preferred usage: "login" or "logon". For my paper writing, I'd like to standardize on one.
Google shows: "login": 218 Million hits "logon": 6.7 Million hits
so there is a 30:1 preference for login vs. logon. But I'd love to hear some more debate.
Barry _____________________________________________________________________
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Hi Barry Hale and Scanlon's Wired Style - and what better resource for an online term :-) - says: Login: The account name used etc... Logon: The procedure used to gain access to a network (opp Logoff). Andy ::andy williamson ::wairua consulting limited ::www.wairua.com ::www.edemocracy.co.nz -----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Barry Wellman Sent: Thursday, 3 March 2005 05:55 To: aoir list Subject: [Air-l] login/logon Which is the preferred usage: "login" or "logon". For my paper writing, I'd like to standardize on one. Google shows: "login": 218 Million hits "logon": 6.7 Million hits so there is a 30:1 preference for login vs. logon. But I'd love to hear some more debate. Barry _____________________________________________________________________ Barry Wellman Professor of Sociology NetLab Director wellman at chass.utoronto.ca http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman Centre for Urban & Community Studies University of Toronto 455 Spadina Avenue Toronto Canada M5S 2G8 fax:+1-416-978-7162 To network is to live; to live is to network () ASCII ribbon campaign -- don't use HTML email /\ _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ The Air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://aoir.org/airjoin.html
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Alan Sondheim -
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jeremy hunsinger