I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :) Barry Wellman _______________________________________________________________________ S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388 University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:barrywellman http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963 Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php _______________________________________________________________________
I don't know when Norway was connected, but I can tell you that the first time Canada got connected to the ARPANET was on April 3, 1985, and it was at the Communications Research Centre of Canada that it happened (which is the only reason why I know the date :) Sylvie Noel On 2011-03-08, at 11:50 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :)
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Sylvie Noel <sylvie.noel@crc.ca> 08/03/2011 1:12 pm >>> I don't know when Norway was connected, but I can tell you that the first time Canada got connected to the ARPANET was on April 3, 1985, and it was at the Communications Research Centre of Canada that it happened (which is the only reason why I know the date :)
Sylvie Noel On 2011-03-08, at 11:50 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :)
Barry Wellman
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People talk much on this list, I shall say! I receive mails at a pace higher than the one with which I delete them. /Sari On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Andrew Herman <aherman@wlu.ca> wrote:
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Sylvie Noel <sylvie.noel@crc.ca> 08/03/2011 1:12 pm >>> I don't know when Norway was connected, but I can tell you that the first time Canada got connected to the ARPANET was on April 3, 1985, and it was at the Communications Research Centre of Canada that it happened (which is the only reason why I know the date :)
Sylvie Noel
On 2011-03-08, at 11:50 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :)
Barry Wellman
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According to the English Wikipedia article on ARPANET Norway got connected in 1968, one year before the net even existed. Beat that, Canada! :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpanet#Growth_and_evolution (Seriously though, according to NORSAR we got online in 1973. http://www.norsar.no/pc-5-30-NORSAR-and-the-Internet.aspx ) Anders S. Løvlie University of Oslo folk.uio.no/anderssl On 08.03.11 19.14, Andrew Herman wrote:
It's official!
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Sylvie Noel<sylvie.noel@crc.ca> 08/03/2011 1:12 pm>>> I don't know when Norway was connected, but I can tell you that the first time Canada got connected to the ARPANET was on April 3, 1985, and it was at the Communications Research Centre of Canada that it happened (which is the only reason why I know the date :)
Sylvie Noel
On 2011-03-08, at 11:50 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :)
Barry Wellman
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Sandra Braman has an article coming out on the Internationalization of the Internet, as part of her series on the RFCs. I believe it was Norway, not Canada. It was definitely in the first decade, so well before 1985. (Unfortunately, I read the draft article last fall, and can't find a published citation.) Liza Barry-Kessler Ph.D. Student School of Information Studies University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee barryke2@uwm.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Sundnes Løvlie" <a.s.lovlie@media.uio.no> To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2011 12:34:41 PM Subject: Re: [Air-L] Oh Canada! According to the English Wikipedia article on ARPANET Norway got connected in 1968, one year before the net even existed. Beat that, Canada! :p http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpanet#Growth_and_evolution (Seriously though, according to NORSAR we got online in 1973. http://www.norsar.no/pc-5-30-NORSAR-and-the-Internet.aspx ) Anders S. Løvlie University of Oslo folk.uio.no/anderssl On 08.03.11 19.14, Andrew Herman wrote:
It's official!
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Sylvie Noel<sylvie.noel@crc.ca> 08/03/2011 1:12 pm>>> I don't know when Norway was connected, but I can tell you that the first time Canada got connected to the ARPANET was on April 3, 1985, and it was at the Communications Research Centre of Canada that it happened (which is the only reason why I know the date :)
Sylvie Noel
On 2011-03-08, at 11:50 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :)
Barry Wellman
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S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388 University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:barrywellman http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963 Updating history: http://chass.utoronto.ca/oldnew/cybertimes.php
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This one landed in my spam =) /Sari 2011/3/8 Liza Barry-Kessler <barryke2@uwm.edu>
Sandra Braman has an article coming out on the Internationalization of the Internet, as part of her series on the RFCs. I believe it was Norway, not Canada. It was definitely in the first decade, so well before 1985. (Unfortunately, I read the draft article last fall, and can't find a published citation.)
Liza Barry-Kessler Ph.D. Student School of Information Studies University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee barryke2@uwm.edu
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Sundnes Løvlie" <a.s.lovlie@media.uio.no> To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2011 12:34:41 PM Subject: Re: [Air-L] Oh Canada!
According to the English Wikipedia article on ARPANET Norway got connected in 1968, one year before the net even existed. Beat that, Canada! :p
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arpanet#Growth_and_evolution
(Seriously though, according to NORSAR we got online in 1973. http://www.norsar.no/pc-5-30-NORSAR-and-the-Internet.aspx )
Anders S. Løvlie University of Oslo folk.uio.no/anderssl
On 08.03.11 19.14, Andrew Herman wrote:
It's official!
Andrew Herman, Ph. D. Associate Professor and Chairperson Department of Communication Studies Graduate Program in Cultural Analysis and Social Theory Wilfrid Laurier University Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3C5 CANADA 519 884-1970 x3693
Sylvie Noel<sylvie.noel@crc.ca> 08/03/2011 1:12 pm>>> I don't know when Norway was connected, but I can tell you that the first time Canada got connected to the ARPANET was on April 3, 1985, and it was at the Communications Research Centre of Canada that it happened (which is the only reason why I know the date :)
Sylvie Noel
On 2011-03-08, at 11:50 AM, Barry Wellman wrote:
I believe that Canada was connected to the then-American Internet before Norway and UK. Sorry, can't document, but as always bear embraced us (and vice-versa), and Sue Thomas and John-Willy Bakke overlooked us. Feeling neglected is so Canadian. :)
Barry Wellman
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