Subject: Re: [Air-l] Rich Site Summary Technology
You criticized the content that was covered in my post but included none yourself to rectify what you perceived to be a problem. That was not only unhelpful, it was nonacademic. And every single rss program I listed in my post most certainly does require .net to work properly. You not providing any of your own sources that do not require .net wasn't very helpful. And your one link, http://syndic8.com , that you included in your reply was mentioned several times in the tutorials and rss explanations that I also provided links to. I hope you put a little more effort and consideration into any further replies regarding this topic. Unlike you, I spent about a week putting my original post together that you so callously disregarded. <From: elijah wright <elw@stderr.org> <"RSS is one of my favorite useful bits of technology - I agree with your promotion of it, but disagree with the scope of what your post covered." "o, most of them don't require .NET. Only the dirty hacks do."> Chris Williams, Ph.D. Instructor of Social Sciences Mississippi Virtual Community College http://www.msvcc.org
Chris, everyone, I hate to say this, but i use several rss enabled systems, none of them require .net or any other microsoft-based systems. While I appreciate your effort, I also must say that in my experience .net use is the minority position for implementing rss systems, this is primarily because there are rss libraries for nearly all web-based programming languages, a visit to hotscripts.com clearly shows that. as for client side implementations, such as rss aggregators, there are plenty of options discoverable for nearly any platform, again most without .net, and several can be found on versiontracker.com . likewise a quick search on google for "rss perl" gives adequate access to perl tutorials, likewise one can search for python, ruby, or nearly any other language or toolkit and find some implementation, i even found an implementation in a unix shell. as for the implementations that you posted, i'd encourage people to consider the broader implications(and even the irony) of supporting a .net or otherwise proprietary platform to perform syndication which is based on open and accessible standards. I agree though that rss is a handy tool, there is a ton of info on the web, and several good books out there: here are some handy sites: http://www.oreillynet.com/rss/ http://www.oreillynet.com/topics/rss/rss http://www.webreference.com/authoring/languages/xml/rss/intro/index.html now, that said and done, I don't think this discussion should be continued with the tone below. If you have specific questions about implementing rss, or other web services on a variety of platforms, I'm sure we can continue the discussion in a more collegial tone as this is part of what several of us research, develop and implement on a daily basis. have a nice day, jeremy On Nov 30, 2003, at 12:41 PM, Chris Williams wrote:
You criticized the content that was covered in my post but included none yourself to rectify what you perceived to be a problem. That was not only unhelpful, it was nonacademic. And every single rss program I listed in my post most certainly does require .net to work properly. You not providing any of your own sources that do not require .net wasn't very helpful. And your one link, http://syndic8.com , that you included in your reply was mentioned several times in the tutorials and rss explanations that I also provided links to. I hope you put a little more effort and consideration into any further replies regarding this topic. Unlike you, I spent about a week putting my original post together that you so callously disregarded.
<From: elijah wright <elw@stderr.org> <"RSS is one of my favorite useful bits of technology - I agree with your promotion of it, but disagree with the scope of what your post covered." "o, most of them don't require .NET. Only the dirty hacks do.">
Chris Williams, Ph.D. Instructor of Social Sciences Mississippi Virtual Community College http://www.msvcc.org
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http://www.oreillynet.com/rss/ http://www.oreillynet.com/topics/rss/rss
Just to add a few links to those interested: http://www.feedreader.com (OpenSource project - RSS-Reader) http://www.rssreader.de/ (German...:) http://www.hebig.org/blogs/archives/main/000877.php (an overview of RSS-reader) Sources (much more important): http://www.newsisfree.com (unbelievable amount of RSS-feeds worldwide...) I personally believe for quite some time now, that RSS will get rid of Newsletters, as these do not let me decide, what I find interesting or not (of course, Marketing will tell you, they personalized their newsletters...) - and lets face it - many poeple get newsletters, that do not inform them in the way, they thought these "informations" would do... But the really best thing about RSS is - you get news, informations and data from around the world (if you speak more than one language) anytime, as soon they are made public...not an hour later or so....and there are so many feeds out there, that it can come handy in certain times, where the media in one or some countries does not live up to the principles of truth or reporting facts rather than hearsay (rumors)... Take care and communicate peacefully... ;) sam liban
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