Request for Resources: The Internet and Warfare
Friends- I have a graduate student who is currently working on a paper on the Internet and the discourses and conduct of 21st centrury warfare. Believe it or not, we are having trouble finding academic writing on the topic. Does anyone have any suggestions? One of the topics he/we are interested in is what the Department of Defense calls "Network Centric Warfare". Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list. In any event, any help would be greatly appreciated. Andrew Herman -- Visiting Professor and Research Fellow in Digital Communications and Cultural Policy Joint Graduate Program in Communication and Culture York University 4700 Keele St.TEL 3007 Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 (416)736-2100 x 30157
Frank Webster's book The Intensification of Surveillance has got a good article by the editor on this area, and then there is all of the stuff by RAND. There is also Paul Hirst'sWar and Power in the Twenty-First Century andrew.herman@comcast.net wrote:
Friends-
I have a graduate student who is currently working on a paper on the Internet and the discourses and conduct of 21st centrury warfare. Believe it or not, we are having trouble finding academic writing on the topic. Does anyone have any suggestions?
One of the topics he/we are interested in is what the Department of Defense calls "Network Centric Warfare". Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list.
In any event, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew Herman
-- Visiting Professor and Research Fellow in Digital Communications and Cultural Policy Joint Graduate Program in Communication and Culture York University 4700 Keele St.TEL 3007 Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 (416)736-2100 x 30157
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here are some possible books James Der Derian "Virtuous War" and http://www.watsoninstitute.org/project_detail.cfm?id=1 Manuel De Landa "War in the Age of Intelligent Machines" Arquila, Networks and Netwars: The Future of Terror, Crime, and Militancy and Megan Boler a colleague of mine from VT, now at OISE produced this http://www.tandl.vt.edu/Foundations/mediaproject/home.htm and then there is http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/lnc/ which has a listserv that frequently deals with the discourses of war in new capitalism The Network Centric Warfare group is still around too(though it may have been renamed), but if you really want to see the discourse of war in a networked environment see the darpa project descriptions since 1998. It's a paper I've been meaning to write, but it's been tabled. as for the gentleman you refer to, i'd refer you to the list archives http://www.aoir.org/mailman/listinfo/air-l On Nov 4, 2003, at 9:10 AM, andrew.herman@comcast.net wrote:
Friends-
I have a graduate student who is currently working on a paper on the Internet and the discourses and conduct of 21st centrury warfare. Believe it or not, we are having trouble finding academic writing on the topic. Does anyone have any suggestions?
One of the topics he/we are interested in is what the Department of Defense calls "Network Centric Warfare". Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list.
In any event, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew Herman
-- Visiting Professor and Research Fellow in Digital Communications and Cultural Policy Joint Graduate Program in Communication and Culture York University 4700 Keele St.TEL 3007 Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 (416)736-2100 x 30157
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i'll second jeremy's suggestion of der derian. there's also Cyborg Citizen: Politics in the Posthuman Age by chris hables gray but it really just touches the surface of things. it would be hard to do this without checking out paul virilio. and mckenzie wark. my main suggestion would be to go directly to the web sites of the corporations that are building such warfare. they are incredibly candid and proud of what they are building and share to the public all kinds of wild stuff. they are also willing to send press kits to any soul remotely possible in the war machines they build. david On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, jeremy hunsinger wrote:
here are some possible books James Der Derian "Virtuous War" and http://www.watsoninstitute.org/project_detail.cfm?id=1 Manuel De Landa "War in the Age of Intelligent Machines" Arquila, Networks and Netwars: The Future of Terror, Crime, and Militancy and Megan Boler a colleague of mine from VT, now at OISE produced this http://www.tandl.vt.edu/Foundations/mediaproject/home.htm and then there is http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/lnc/ which has a listserv that frequently deals with the discourses of war in new capitalism
The Network Centric Warfare group is still around too(though it may have been renamed), but if you really want to see the discourse of war in a networked environment see the darpa project descriptions since 1998. It's a paper I've been meaning to write, but it's been tabled.
as for the gentleman you refer to, i'd refer you to the list archives http://www.aoir.org/mailman/listinfo/air-l
On Nov 4, 2003, at 9:10 AM, andrew.herman@comcast.net wrote:
Friends-
I have a graduate student who is currently working on a paper on the Internet and the discourses and conduct of 21st centrury warfare. Believe it or not, we are having trouble finding academic writing on the topic. Does anyone have any suggestions?
One of the topics he/we are interested in is what the Department of Defense calls "Network Centric Warfare". Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list.
In any event, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew Herman
-- Visiting Professor and Research Fellow in Digital Communications and Cultural Policy Joint Graduate Program in Communication and Culture York University 4700 Keele St.TEL 3007 Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 (416)736-2100 x 30157
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As I see it hasn't been mentioned yet, the following book is a good place to locate both military contractors and research labs and also private think tanks like Rand Corp. in the development of the Internet: Abbate, J. (1999). Inventing the Internet. Cambridge, MA, MIT Press. ===== "The distance between here and there is growing; and getting even larger as we speak" (S. S. Hall) Denise N. Rall, PhD student, School of EnvironSciMgmt, Southern Cross Uni, Lismore, NSW, 2480 Australia Phone +61-2-6624-8627 Fax +61-2-6624-8637 Office (Tuesdays) (02) 6620 3577 Mob 0438 233 344 http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/rsm/staff/pages/drall/index.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Also not mentioned but of importance in supplying an historical perspective on the relationship of networked communication to military imperatives for command and control is Paul Edwards', _The Closed World: Computers and the Politics of Discourse in Cold War America_ (MIT, 1996). Best- Phillip Phillip Thurtle http://www.carleton.ca/~pthurtle/
how could i forget? Timothy Lenoir, "All But War Is Simulation: The Military Entertainment Complex," Configurations, Vol 8 (2000), pp. 238-335. http://www.stanford.edu/dept/HPST/TimLenoir/Publications/Lenoir_AllButWarIsS...
This is an amazing emergent bibliography. I hope someone is compiling it and will post it back to the list! Always cool to see our collective knowledge in action. Nancy
Woops, seeing David's post of Lenoir's article reminded me of one more: Friederich Kittler's _Literature, Media, and Information Systems_ (G+B Arts, 1997). Kittler's analysis shares much with Virilio although much more concerned with the "materiality" of information systems. Best- Phillip http://www.carleton.ca/~pthurtle/
This isn't an online source, or really about discourse/conduct of 21st century warfare per se, but it's really important base reading material: "Just and Unjust Wars: A Moral Argument With Historical Illustrations," by Michael Walzer. "A classic treatment of the morality of war written by one of our country's leading philosophers, with a new introduction considering the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo. Just and Unjust Wars examines a variety of conflicts in order to understand exactly why, according to Walzer, 'the argument about war and justice is still a political and moral necessity.' Walzer's classic work draws on historical illustrations that range all the way from the Athenian attack on Melos to this morning's headlines, and uses the testimony of participants-decision makers and victims alike-to examine the moral issues of warfare." (from the jacket) I used this book as an adjunct resource when teaching American Indian Warfare at the University of Arizona, but it's applicable across all times. Mike Two Horses Assistant Professor, American Indian Studies Department of Interdisciplinary Studies, Virginia Tech 344 Lane Hall (0227) Blacksburg VA 24061 (540)231-8779 Fax: 231-7013 twohorse@vt.edu -----Original Message----- From: air-l-admin@aoir.org [mailto:air-l-admin@aoir.org] On Behalf Of andrew.herman@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:11 AM To: air-l Subject: [Air-l] Request for Resources: The Internet and Warfare Friends- I have a graduate student who is currently working on a paper on the Internet and the discourses and conduct of 21st centrury warfare. Believe it or not, we are having trouble finding academic writing on the topic. Does anyone have any suggestions? One of the topics he/we are interested in is what the Department of Defense calls "Network Centric Warfare". Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list. In any event, any help would be greatly appreciated. Andrew Herman -- Visiting Professor and Research Fellow in Digital Communications and Cultural Policy Joint Graduate Program in Communication and Culture York University 4700 Keele St.TEL 3007 Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 (416)736-2100 x 30157 _______________________________________________ Air-l mailing list Air-l@aoir.org http://www.aoir.org/mailman/listinfo/air-l
Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list.
Mark Tempestilli Captain, United States Navy Director of Network Centric Warfare U.S. Naval Academy email: tempesti@usna.edu I don't know if Mark is still on the list. Nancy -- Nancy Baym http://www.ku.edu/home/nbaym Communication Studies, University of Kansas Bailey Hall, 1440 Jayhawk Blvd., Room 102, Lawrence, KS 66045-7574, USA Association of Internet Researchers: http://aoir.org
I suggest that you look at Michael Ignatieff's (2000), Virtual War, NY: Viking. Here is a quote from it: "For the citizens of the NATO countries, on the other hand, the war was virtual. They were mobilized not as combatants but as spectators. The war was a spectacle: it aroused emotions in the intense but shallow way that sports do. The events in question were as remote from their essential concerns as a football game, and even though the game was in deadly earnest, the deaths were mostly hidden, and above all, they were someone else's. If war becomes unreal to the citizens of modern democracies, will they care enough to restrain and control the violence exercized in their name?" - Michael Ignatieff, Virtual War" (2000, p. 3) For network centric warfare, download http://www.journal.forces.gc.ca/engraph/Vol2/no2/pdf/23-30_e.pdf A Google search will find you lots of other material. I think the individual you might be alluding to is a Captain Mark Tempestilli of the U.S. Naval Academy. He used to be on the Media Ecology list too and the email I have for him is tempesti@usna.edu ....................Alex ================================================ Alex Kuskis PhD Candidate, OISE/University of Toronto Associate Faculty, Royal Roads University Masters Program in Distributed Learning (MADL) http://www.royalroads.ca/ akuskis@ican.net ** alex.kuskis@royalroads.ca "Learning a living" - Marshall McLuhan ----- Original Message ----- From: <andrew.herman@comcast.net> To: "air-l" <air-l@aoir.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:10 AM Subject: [Air-l] Request for Resources: The Internet and Warfare
Friends-
I have a graduate student who is currently working on a paper on the Internet and the discourses and conduct of 21st centrury warfare. Believe it or not, we are having trouble finding academic writing on the topic. Does anyone have any suggestions?
One of the topics he/we are interested in is what the Department of Defense calls "Network Centric Warfare". Last spring, I remember there being a post to the AIR listserv from an officer who was teaching the topic at, I believe, the NAval War College. Does anybody know/remember this person? Is s/he still on the list.
In any event, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Andrew Herman
-- Visiting Professor and Research Fellow in Digital Communications and Cultural Policy Joint Graduate Program in Communication and Culture York University 4700 Keele St.TEL 3007 Toronto, Ontario M3J 1P3 (416)736-2100 x 30157
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