Oriana, I have passed your request onto our main web developers at the University to see if they could recommend anything to you. IB ---- Original message ----
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:51:27 -0500 From: "Oriana Solta Gatta" <ogatta1@student.gsu.edu> Subject: [Air-l] electronic signatures To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org
Hello, I'm looking into using electronic signatures for my consent forms and was wondering if anyone could make suggestions about where to go. I've found a few different sites, but others' experience with this would be very helpful. Thanks Oriana Gatta
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Oriana The easiest way is to scan your signature, clean it up in any imaging program, like photoshop and save it as a gif file. Then you can just place it into any document as an image. If you need any additional help with that e-mail me off the list Odette ---- Original message ----
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:51:27 -0500 From: "Oriana Solta Gatta" <ogatta1@student.gsu.edu> Subject: [Air-l] electronic signatures To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org
Hello, I'm looking into using electronic signatures for my consent forms and was wondering if anyone could make suggestions about where to go. I've found a few different sites, but others' experience with this would be very helpful. Thanks Oriana Gatta
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This document suggests electronic signatures may not be acceptable for Internet work: http://www.utexas.edu/research/rsc/humanresearch/special_topics/ehtical_dile... It reads, in part: """ The federal regulations require signed informed consent from every research participant unless a waiver of signature is granted by the IRB, or the research is exempt from federal oversight. The Office of Human Research Protection (OHRP), the governmental oversight agency for human subject protection, has deemed electronic signatures obtained over the Internet to be invalid even though electronic signatures are accepted for interstate commerce. Researchers currently getting electronic signatures do not meet the federal regulatory requirement. Thus, the investigator must, in most cases, receive an original or faxed signature from the research participant. """ For what it's worth... I haven't dug into whether this is the standard employed on my own campus. Alex -- // // Alexander Halavais // Graduate Director of Informatics // University at Buffalo School of Informatics // contact info: http://alex.halavais.net //
Alex Halavais wrote:
This document suggests electronic signatures may not be acceptable for Internet work:
http://www.utexas.edu/research/rsc/humanresearch/special_topics/ehtical_dile...
It reads, in part:
""" The federal regulations require signed informed consent from every research participant unless a waiver of signature is granted by the IRB, or the research is exempt from federal oversight. The Office of Human Research Protection (OHRP), the governmental oversight agency for human subject protection, has deemed electronic signatures obtained over the Internet to be invalid even though electronic signatures are accepted for interstate commerce. Researchers currently getting electronic signatures do not meet the federal regulatory requirement. Thus, the investigator must, in most cases, receive an original or faxed signature from the research participant. """
For what it's worth... I haven't dug into whether this is the standard employed on my own campus.
Alex
Thanks for sharing this document, which raises some good issues. However, it represents a pretty narrow interpretation of the law, especially in view of the fact that the government itself uses electronic signatures quite extensively these days. You can even sign your tax return electronically! This document assumes a rather high degree of risk to the human subjects, and in reality, there is (or ought to be) a lot more room for negotiation of these matters with the IRB depending on the nature of the study. -- Mark D. Johns, Ph.D. Asst. Professor of Communication/Linguistics Luther College, Decorah, Iowa http://faculty.luther.edu/~johnsmar/ ----------------------------------------------- "Get the facts first. You can distort them later." ---Mark Twain
Thanks for sharing this document, which raises some good issues. However, it represents a pretty narrow interpretation of the law, especially in view of the fact that the government itself uses electronic signatures quite extensively these days. You can even sign your tax return electronically! This document assumes a rather high degree of risk to the human subjects, and in reality, there is (or ought to be) a lot more room for negotiation of these matters with the IRB depending on the nature of the study.
there are multiple meanings of "signature" being used here, by various folks. first, we have signature as in "the signature i use to sign the bottom of an informed consent form". handwritten, et cetera. second, we have signature as in a certification that you have read, do wish to submit, etcetera - typically implemented as you typing in a password, clicking a checkbox, or typing in a captcha-style string of characters. this is different (in a lot of ways) than the first meaning of signature. first of all, method 2 is trivially forgeable, and doesn't share many of the properties of method 1 - relatively unique handwriting styles, evidence of coercion or nervousness in people's responses, et cetera. second, we have to consider whether there are good reasons for the utexas.edu-style 'you must get a real signature either f2f or by fax' rule to be as it is. perhaps they have simply not seen anyone present a method of implementing signature-style-number-2 that can pass muster as a unique identifier that certifies a person's intentions. --elijah
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