Have lurked for quite some time--but this issue is one too close to my heart to remain silent. I have taught adjudicated youth in alternative high schools and pre-service teachers at the university. Have spent a great deal of time in self evaluation. What do I really want from my students? Why do they need to learn what I teach? What do they need to do to convince me they have indeed learned? The issue is that in this new age of technology and distributed information, we, as educators, need new ways for students to demonstrate proficiency and subject mastery. We will never solve the plagiarism problem as long as we keep the rewards for plagiarizing so high. Tama's suggestions are good ones, but we need to go further in re-thinking how a student demonstrates understanding and scholarship, not in thinking up more complex ways of detecting lack of it. Research papers are good, but even better is the ability to retrieve needed information on a given subject that would support one's thesis in a paper. Maybe a good assignment would be to find 5 papers that you would like to plagiarize and defend your choices...? Judy Cossel Rice

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Message: 11 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:06:15 +0900 From: "Tama Leaver" <tamaleaver@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Air-l] turnitin issue To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Message-ID: <580c038d0703081706j6eeb707et3bc6ae2d2e1d518d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Since we've moved onto talking about how to try and guide students away from plagiarism, I recently developed a one-page primer for course design at UWA which suggests some strategies for designing better courses and assessment, encouraging original work. It's up on the web if anyone's interested: http://www.teachingandlearning.uwa.edu.au/__data/page/72852/NotesOnPreventin... (And apologies to Barry as this thread has clearly strayed substantially from his original question!) Cheers, Tama -- Dr Tama Leaver Associate Lecturer (Higher Education Development) Centre for the Advancement of Teaching and Learning (M400) University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway Crawley WA 6009 Australia Ph: (+61 8) 6488 1502 Fax: (+61 8) 6488 1156 www: http://www.catl.uwa.edu.au www: http://www.tamaleaver.net edublog: http://tama.edublogs.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.