Re: [Air-l] Copyright issues on material transmitted to AIR-L
I tend to agree with Ed. This list constitutes more of a publication and distribution system than a research system. If it were a research system, and we distributed materials as we have done, then we would probably have to make the list password protected and moderated to some extent as lists for classes or lists for research groups usually are.
Ed:
sorry...but I also disagree pretty strongly with this. This list isn't doing research. It's chatting. It may be learning about research issues...but list members are neither signed up for credit for a class, nor are they engaged in active research as part and parcel to their participation here. I don't buy it.
Further, even if one of us is doing research, we aren't all on/in the same project...so forwarding us copyright protected stuff goes outside the intent (in my view).
Of course....I'm no lawyer . . . and this is a brave new frontier.
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jeremy hunsinger wrote:
This list constitutes more of a publication and distribution system than a research system.
Isn't publishing and distributing results and ideas part of research?
If it were a research system, and we distributed materials as we have done, then we would probably have to make the list password protected and moderated to some extent as lists for classes or lists for research groups usually are.
Why? what is it about password protection that makes something research?
Perhaps some of those on this list who do have expertise in copyright law and the internet (I know you're there!) would like to offer a professional opinion on this topic?
Regardless of the nature of the list wouldn't the caveat only apply in areas covered by US copyright law? Jase
I tend to agree with Ed. This list constitutes more of a publication and distribution system than a research system. If it were a research system, and we distributed materials as we have done, then we would probably have to make the list password protected and moderated to some extent as lists for classes or lists for research groups usually are.
This list and the server it sits on are governed by u.s. copyright law to the best of my understanding, which is why I posted the little bit about the acceptable use of this computing and network systems by which this system is governed. Thus, by someone posting something against copyright law, theoretically, I could be held liable because I am failing to comply with the standards by allowing the poster to use this system this way. Which is why I asked if people would be kind enough to do their best to ensure that all their postings to the best of their knowledge or to the publicly accessible knowledge like the statements made on various websites to govern the use of the material from there comply with the copyright put forth in some manner that is acceptable to those sites which are explicit or in some manner that would be acceptably defined as fair use under U.S. copyright law. It is my understanding that under the current policy of this university, which owns the network that this computer plugs into, that I, as systems administrator, cannot allow things that could be interpreted as violations of copyright to continue. I am happy to enquire with university counsel as to whether these actions do or do not constitute violations of copyrights, but they will probably play it on the safe side and say that it most likely is and that means I will have to make a protocol to deal with it including warnings and possible removal from the list and we don't need a protocol like that and i don't want to have to enforce one. I'd rather just have us agree that if it is questionable, then play it safe and only post some of the article or a description of the article and a link to it. I'm not trying to do this to be persecutory or anything, but I am certainly being cautious which is justified, but if it isn't let me know. At 05:03 PM 05/23/2001 +0000, you wrote:
Regardless of the nature of the list wouldn't the caveat only apply in areas covered by US copyright law?
Jase
Jeremy Hunsinger http://www.cddc.vt.edu Instructor of Political Science Center for Digital Discourse and Culture Webmaster/Manager CDDC 526 Major Williams Hall 0130 http://www.cddc.vt.edu/jeremy --my homepage Virginia Tech (yes i partially updated it) Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)-231-7614 icq 5535471
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