Facebook's class divide - implications
Dear all, I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier teens https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of them! * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook in the first place. * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy? My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent. * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening length of text used in online communication?) * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are more effective at getting their message across using social media video and images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true). Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help some of you to get grants ;-) Regards, David -- Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline>
Hi David: as a matter of fact, I’m close to finishing a FB study largely dealing with class issues. Please contact me at Valarie.Bell@unt.edu for more details. Thanks, Dr. Valarie J. Bell Computational Social Scientist, Digital Communication Analytics, Mayborn School of Journalism, University of North Texas Valarie.Bell@unt.edu Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of David Brake <davidbrake@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03:04 PM To: AoIR mailing list Subject: [EXT] [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications Dear all, I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier teens https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqz.com%2F1355827%2Fdo-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-income%2F&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=5q%2BtiBnPkECp5tsSNgiwLjWHwPPP0jD1r%2Fv412Kn5pg%3D&reserved=0, speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of them! * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook in the first place. * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy? My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent. * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening length of text used in online communication?) * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are more effective at getting their message across using social media video and images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true). Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help some of you to get grants ;-) Regards, David -- Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdavidbrake.org%2F&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=jgQKLYKCPoCj9JKngrksaZmI01j%2BlKpFPljgOCBTglM%3D&reserved=0, @drbrake Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fsharingourlivesonline&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=n1nB1%2FlHMKnSOlxbbKrp6XUT914mWBiaYAjVNYBQmKQ%3D&reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fsharingourlivesonline&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=n1nB1%2FlHMKnSOlxbbKrp6XUT914mWBiaYAjVNYBQmKQ%3D&reserved=0> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faoir.org&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=dYbl5EnAyG40RaQf5uU2b4z4T2z5ALjNGvVSHLviAos%3D&reserved=0 Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flistserv.aoir.org%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fair-l-aoir.org&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=SApYzspaE%2B06Fg2pStlkIG1%2FIgm1Q7YpN%2B6ynnvS8EA%3D&reserved=0 Join the Association of Internet Researchers: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aoir.org%2F&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=LR%2BePRtQEmRpi0IgpZcapagjW5%2FfVXd%2BVy6aKMjCuVc%3D&reserved=0
dear David, I am watching this list for very nice issues and ideas that come along, and just saw your post without having readily at hand the references to back up my view, I recall it was George Bernard Shaw that had been arguing in his essays (maybe in What socialism is (Fabian tract 13), cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_George_Bernard_Shaw#Political...), that sun tanning became fashionable as an outspring of the industrial revolution, just in the same way thatin earlier timespale skin had become a sign of nobleness and beauty in outdoors-work based economies the point I'm trying to make, in fact, is that the answer to your question may exist in what you already mention yourself, that wealthier (teen) users will at some point be looking at migrating away from a network which has now lost (in their own perception of their own society) its elite/status-symbol character ... do you think this could be so? Just a thought ... regards, Dimitris --- Dr. Dimitris Gouscos media.uoa.gr/~gouscos <http://www.media.uoa.gr/%7Egouscos> Assistant Professor, Department of Communication and Media Studies, National and Kapodistrian University of Athens | media.uoa.gr <http://www.media.uoa.gr/> Faculty member, MSc Digital Communication Media and Interaction Environments | masters.ntlab.gr <https://masters.ntlab.gr/> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Electronic Governance | inderscience.com/ijeg <http://www.inderscience.com/ijeg> postal address Sofokleous 1 & Aristidou str. GR-10559 Athens, Greece tel. ++30 210 3689421, ++30 6984 334993 (please prefer texting if possible) email gouscos@media.uoa.gr | skype dimitris.gouscos (please send me an email first) === Στις 27/9/2018 11:03 μμ, ο David Brake έγραψε:
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier teens https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook in the first place. * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening length of text used in online communication?) * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are more effective at getting their message across using social media video and images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
-- Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Dear David, I totally agree with Dimitris. It is already time for people to wake up and become smarter. It has been already demonstrated that Face and some other social networks have got a little to do with mental health and human development in terms of purpose, ethics and welfare at large. Best regards Ricardo Rohm Federal University of Rio de Janeiro Enviado do Email para Windows 10 De: Dimitris Gouscos Enviado:quinta-feira, 27 de setembro de 2018 17:41 Para: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Assunto: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications dear David, I am watching this list for very nice issues and ideas that come along, and just saw your post without having readily at hand the references to back up my view, I recall it was George Bernard Shaw that had been arguing in his essays (maybe in What socialism is (Fabian tract 13), cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_George_Bernard_Shaw#Political...), that sun tanning became fashionable as an outspring of the industrial revolution, just in the same way thatin earlier timespale skin had become a sign of nobleness and beauty in outdoors-work based economies the point I'm trying to make, in fact, is that the answer to your question may exist in what you already mention yourself, that wealthier (teen) users will at some point be looking at migrating away from a network which has now lost (in their own perception of their own society) its elite/status-symbol character ... do you think this could be so? Just a thought ... regards, Dimitris --- Dr. Dimitris Gouscos media.uoa.gr/~gouscos <http://www.media.uoa.gr/%7Egouscos> Assistant Professor, Department of Communication and Media Studies, National and Kapodistrian University of Athens | media.uoa.gr <http://www.media.uoa.gr/> Faculty member, MSc Digital Communication Media and Interaction Environments | masters.ntlab.gr <https://masters.ntlab.gr/> Editor-in-Chief, International Journal of Electronic Governance | inderscience.com/ijeg <http://www.inderscience.com/ijeg> postal address Sofokleous 1 & Aristidou str. GR-10559 Athens, Greece tel. ++30 210 3689421, ++30 6984 334993 (please prefer texting if possible) email gouscos@media.uoa.gr | skype dimitris.gouscos (please send me an email first) === Στις 27/9/2018 11:03 μμ, ο David Brake έγραψε:
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier teens https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook in the first place. * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening length of text used in online communication?) * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are more effective at getting their message across using social media video and images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
-- Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it may be interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of teens (13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the bottom half of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the top half of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live in the bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of teens live in the top half of zip codes. Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and percentage of total teens. 1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook. a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living in the bottom half of zip codes in the United States. 2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram. a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram living in the bottom half of zip codes in the United States. Barett Director, Marketing and Digital Services Bentz Whaley Flessner -----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David Brake Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications Dear all, I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier teens https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of them! * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook in the first place. * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy? My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent. * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening length of text used in online communication?) * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are more effective at getting their message across using social media video and images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true). Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help some of you to get grants ;-) Regards, David -- Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Hello David, Perhaps the move mirrors reasons found by danah boyd as she investigated teen flight from myspace to facebook. She's written about this here: boyd, danah. 2012. “White Flight in Networked Publics: How Race and Class Shaped American Teen Engagement with Myspace and Facebook.” Pp. 203-222 in Race After the Internet, edited by L. Nakamura and P.A. Chow-White. New York: Routledge. In short, she found that the language teens used to describe their migration mirrored the language of whites during what's traditionally been called "white flight" from major US cities. Chris Julien PhD Student (PSU), MA (UNCG) State College, PA, USA www.chrisjulien.com On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:49 PM Barett T. Christensen <bchristensen@bwf.com> wrote:
This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it may be interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of teens (13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the bottom half of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the top half of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live in the bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of teens live in the top half of zip codes.
Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and percentage of total teens.
1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook. a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living in the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram. a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram living in the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
Barett Director, Marketing and Digital Services Bentz Whaley Flessner
-----Original Message----- From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David Brake Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier teens https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook in the first place. * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening length of text used in online communication?) * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are more effective at getting their message across using social media video and images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
-- Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline < https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline> _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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Hello David and others, I have done qualitative research based on diaries with young people 15-18 and found the same in Denmark. Although I was mainly interested in news consumption via social media and across platforms (and the article below reflects that), it was clear that it's no longer cool for young people with high cultural capital to use Facebook (and much of the evidence in the diaries and interviews show just that). They might still have an account and lurke, but they do not share, like or post. Theoretically, I call this digital distinction, and it can also be compared to when the same young people give up their smartphones and get a Nokia 5110. The article is here: https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322 @Valerie - I would also be interested in reading your work on the class divide, if you don't mind sharing. Best Jannie Møller Hartley | Lektor, Ph.d. Journalist | Journalistik | IKH | Roskilde Universitet jath@ruc.dk Associate Professor, Ph.d. | Director of the Digital Media Lab (DeMiLab): digitalmedialab.ruc.dk <https://digitalmedialab.ruc.dk/ Department of Communication and Arts | Roskilde University 42.2.15 | Box 260 | 4000 Roskilde | Denmark Phone: (+45) 4674 37 53Email: jath@ruc.dk // Chapter in new book: The Future of Audiences (2018), Palgrave McMillan /'It’s Something Posh People Do’: Digital Distinction in Young People’s Cross-Media News Engagement <https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322>, (2018) Media and Communication, A Matter of Trust- Plagiarism, fake sources and paradigm repair in the Danish news media <https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/TCrJUP2qzEF4qc2mskIg/full> (2018) Journalism Studies. News Audiences and news habits <http://communication.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-845>, Oxford Encyclopedia of Journalism (2018) -- D. 27/09/2018 23.25 skrev "Air-L på vegne af Chris Julien" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org på vegne af juliencm22@gmail.com>: Hello David, Perhaps the move mirrors reasons found by danah boyd as she investigated teen flight from myspace to facebook. She's written about this here: boyd, danah. 2012. “White Flight in Networked Publics: How Race and Class Shaped American Teen Engagement with Myspace and Facebook.” Pp. 203-222 in Race After the Internet, edited by L. Nakamura and P.A. Chow-White. New York: Routledge. In short, she found that the language teens used to describe their migration mirrored the language of whites during what's traditionally been called "white flight" from major US cities. Chris Julien PhD Student (PSU), MA (UNCG) State College, PA, USA www.chrisjulien.com On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:49 PM Barett T. Christensen <bchristensen@bwf.com> wrote: > This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it may be > interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of teens > (13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code > values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the bottom half > of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the top half > of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live in the > bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of teens > live in the top half of zip codes. > > Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and percentage > of total teens. > > 1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook. > a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. > b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. > c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. > d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. > e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living in > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States. > > 2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram. > a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. > b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. > c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. > d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. > e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram living in > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States. > > > Barett > Director, Marketing and Digital Services > Bentz Whaley Flessner > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David Brake > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM > To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> > Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications > > Dear all, > > I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of > the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier > teens > https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., > speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some > conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for > these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be > interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of > them! > > * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It > surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook > in the first place. > * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped > facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I > speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie > information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of > people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy > leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy? > > My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ > which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent. > > * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening > length of text used in online communication?) > * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are > more effective at getting their message across using social media video and > images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and > resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware > and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ > video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of > their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status > leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true). > > Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, > I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help > some of you to get grants ;-) > > Regards, > > David > > -- > Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake > Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline < > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline> > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association > of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or > unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Hi David and All- Fantastic conversation and great resources. Just to throw a small wrench in the matter, research also shows that young people in disadvantaged circumstances struggle with Facebook because of its default context collapse and related amplification of social problems and violence. This seems antithetical to the wealthy drop-off trend and complicates the puzzle (see e.g. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444815625941) [http://journals.sagepub.com/na101/home/literatum/publisher/sage/journals/content/nmsa/2017/nmsa_19_6/nmsa_19_6/20170609/nmsa_19_6.cover.png]<http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444815625941> The digital hood: Social media use among youth in ...<http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444815625941> journals.sagepub.com The digital hood: Social media use among youth in disadvantaged neighborhoods I think we all look forward to reading your piece! Best, Jenny Jenny L. Davis Lecturer, School of Sociology The Australian National University Co-Editor: Cyborgology<https://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/> <https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis> Twitter: @Jenny_L_Davis<https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis> ________________________________ From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of Jannie Møller Hartley <jath@ruc.dk> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 3:09:35 PM To: Chris Julien; davidbrake@gmail.com Cc: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications Hello David and others, I have done qualitative research based on diaries with young people 15-18 and found the same in Denmark. Although I was mainly interested in news consumption via social media and across platforms (and the article below reflects that), it was clear that it's no longer cool for young people with high cultural capital to use Facebook (and much of the evidence in the diaries and interviews show just that). They might still have an account and lurke, but they do not share, like or post. Theoretically, I call this digital distinction, and it can also be compared to when the same young people give up their smartphones and get a Nokia 5110. The article is here: https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322 @Valerie - I would also be interested in reading your work on the class divide, if you don't mind sharing. Best Jannie Møller Hartley | Lektor, Ph.d. Journalist | Journalistik | IKH | Roskilde Universitet jath@ruc.dk Associate Professor, Ph.d. | Director of the Digital Media Lab (DeMiLab): digitalmedialab.ruc.dk <https://digitalmedialab.ruc.dk/ Department of Communication and Arts | Roskilde University 42.2.15 | Box 260 | 4000 Roskilde | Denmark Phone: (+45) 4674 37 53Email: jath@ruc.dk // Chapter in new book: The Future of Audiences (2018), Palgrave McMillan /'It’s Something Posh People Do’: Digital Distinction in Young People’s Cross-Media News Engagement <https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322>, (2018) Media and Communication, A Matter of Trust- Plagiarism, fake sources and paradigm repair in the Danish news media <https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/TCrJUP2qzEF4qc2mskIg/full> (2018) Journalism Studies. News Audiences and news habits <http://communication.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-845>, Oxford Encyclopedia of Journalism (2018) -- D. 27/09/2018 23.25 skrev "Air-L på vegne af Chris Julien" <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org på vegne af juliencm22@gmail.com>: Hello David, Perhaps the move mirrors reasons found by danah boyd as she investigated teen flight from myspace to facebook. She's written about this here: boyd, danah. 2012. “White Flight in Networked Publics: How Race and Class Shaped American Teen Engagement with Myspace and Facebook.” Pp. 203-222 in Race After the Internet, edited by L. Nakamura and P.A. Chow-White. New York: Routledge. In short, she found that the language teens used to describe their migration mirrored the language of whites during what's traditionally been called "white flight" from major US cities. Chris Julien PhD Student (PSU), MA (UNCG) State College, PA, USA www.chrisjulien.com<http://www.chrisjulien.com> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:49 PM Barett T. Christensen <bchristensen@bwf.com> wrote: > This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it may be > interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of teens > (13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code > values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the bottom half > of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the top half > of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live in the > bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of teens > live in the top half of zip codes. > > Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and percentage > of total teens. > > 1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook. > a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. > b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. > c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. > d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. > e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living in > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States. > > 2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram. > a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes. > b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes. > c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes. > d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes. > e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram living in > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States. > > > Barett > Director, Marketing and Digital Services > Bentz Whaley Flessner > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David Brake > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM > To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org> > Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications > > Dear all, > > I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of > the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier > teens > https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc..., > speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some > conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for > these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be > interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of > them! > > * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It > surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook > in the first place. > * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped > facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I > speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie > information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of > people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy > leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy? > > My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ‘culture’ > which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent. > > * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening > length of text used in online communication?) > * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are > more effective at getting their message across using social media video and > images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and > resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware > and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ‘raw’ > video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of > their visible lower ’status’. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status > leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true). > > Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points, > I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help > some of you to get grants ;-) > > Regards, > > David > > -- > Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake > Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media” > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline < > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline> > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association > of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or > unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ > _______________________________________________ > The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list > is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org > Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: > http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org > > Join the Association of Internet Researchers: > http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/ _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
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Barett T. Christensen -
Bell, Valarie -
Chris Julien -
David Brake -
Dimitris Gouscos -
Jannie Møller Hartley -
Jenny Davis -
Ricardo Rohm