Jeremy, I know we rarely agree on these perspectives; what would help me understand your theoretical foundation for this stance--could you share an example, something from your research, for instance, where this line, this clear demarcation around text is evident? Could you describe how your methods engaged text and avoided subjects? I am just curious if I, from a totally different perspective, would see HS research involved? eb Principal Investigator, Internet Research Ethics Commons internetresearchethics.org (NSF Project # 0924604) elizabeth@internetresearchethics.org