Re: [Air-L] Reputation and friending
All, Forgot to hit "reply all" (risking setting off another debate - I hate having to that). Happy new year. I have been bombarded with people I allegedly went to High School with and without whom I have led a fairly happy life since. This has led me to think about the oppressive qualities of social media. This puts the receiver of the friend request - much like an in-person direct request for friendship, which would be weird (IMO) - in an awkward position. "Ah, yeah, can I get back to you on that...?" Such a request f2f2 would be, I think, odd and slightly pathetic, but is ok online. Maybe it is just semantics. I have discussed this with my students and many report the same feeling. They have also mentioned the aggressive quality of the text and that some friends get upset if there is not an immediate reply or offended if they are somehow left out of a group text. The level of "friendly" surveillance is almost stalkerish (if freinding is a word, then stalkerish can be a word!). This is not directly my area, but is anyone doing any research on this? -TED On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Alexander Halavais <halavais@gmail.com> wrote:
This may seem at odds with a URL posted earlier, but with the greatest respect (and sympathy) for those who have already entered into this thread, I humbly suggest that discussing any person's character on AIR-L is:
1. Inappropriate. AIR-L is intended to further research and while it frequently becomes a more friendly community, none of us would want our personal character adjudicated in such a public setting. So, to second Peter's comment, I think we should quit it.
2. Ineffective. Really, the question of whether to befriend someone or "friend" someone is more effectively handled by talking to people you trust and, for people who write in public, reading what they have said. Why would you trust 2,000 relative strangers' opinions on another stranger? If we want to talk about something a person has written, an argument they have made, or even a project they have undertaken, that's another kettle of fish, and this would be a great topic.
3. Boring. I don't really care, particularly, about the reputation of a single person. I know some do--that's why TMZ rakes in the bucks. I encourage someone to start a Reid Cornwell fan page on Facebook, or an "anti-fan" page if they prefer. I just don't think it is why people come to AIR-L.
So, since the above is very much "do as I say, not as I do," I recommend the following tangents, which actually take those issues on without ever having to talk about any single person:
1. Has the nature of reputation changed? Do we now make friends in a different way? Most of the people I consider friends IRL I met either because I was introduced to them by people I trusted, or because we were forced to work together on something (school, work, sporting team, chain gang, same diff.). But now, I feel Helen's pain: If you are a friend of Henry's shouldn't you also be my friend?
2. Is whuffie a reasonable construct? Do we all, like public officials, now have "approval ratings"? Did we always, and now it is more explicit?
3. How, when anyone online can be a dog, do we determine if someone is a "mensch"? I know that many of you on this list have "alts," and nom de plumes (d'ordinateurs?). If you are like me, you are concerned that they keep their "good name," even if they happen to be fake. How do we determine if a person or an organization is "legitimate"? If it "matters"? When does the social construct of a public persona or organization become "real"? Where is the border between astroturf and grass roots--or is there any? (Obviously, this is a question Wikipedia struggles with.)
Discuss.
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Hi Ted and all -- (first time poster, long time lurker!) I'd say there are a few people doing research in this area, although perhaps not explicitly along the lines you mention. I'm currently writing an article that comes from the broader qualitative project I'm working on (my PhD) which begins to chart some of the strategies young Australians are developing to negotiate unsolicited contact on social network sites - including from long-lost school friends, commercial entities or even Universities. While for the purposes of my PhD I've limited my scope here to young Australians, I predict the emerging strategies I'm noticing here will be found wherever people are engaging with these issues: What constitutes friendship/Friendship? What happens when I delete a Friend, or someone deletes me? How can I be open-minded with Friendship, but also maintain my online privacy? I've found (contrary to discursive constructions of the limited nature of online sociality) that the young people in my study are developing really strategic and multi-faceted ways of managing their privacy on social network sites which is informed by a very personalised conceptualisation of friendship. Everything from 'I only Friend people I've been drunk with' through to 'I Friend anyone who looks interesting' and even reports such as 'I deleted most of my Friends recently in a "Friendship cull" because too many people had access to my page'. I think it's a really juicy area of investigation. Not strictly the focus of my thesis (more concerned with identity construction and belonging on social network sites) although I've found these questions impossible to avoid (nor would I want to avoid them) as my fieldwork has progressed. I've been drawing on many of the resources listed in the database maintained by danah boyd -- http://www.danah.org/researchBibs/sns.html. I have found much of danah's own writing on Friendship to be really helpful and informative. One item that isn't on the list that I've been reading in preparing the paper I'm working on is called "Friending: London-based undergraduates experience of Facebook"by Jane Lewis and Anne West (2009). I hope that helps, Ted. And thanks all for the great discussions on this list! Cheers, Brady ======== Brady Robards PhD Candidate, Griffith University Gold Coast, Australia On 05/01/2010, at 12:42 PM, Ted Coopman wrote:
All,
Forgot to hit "reply all" (risking setting off another debate - I hate having to that).
Happy new year.
I have been bombarded with people I allegedly went to High School with and without whom I have led a fairly happy life since. This has led me to think about the oppressive qualities of social media. This puts the receiver of the friend request - much like an in-person direct request for friendship, which would be weird (IMO) - in an awkward position. "Ah, yeah, can I get back to you on that...?" Such a request f2f2 would be, I think, odd and slightly pathetic, but is ok online. Maybe it is just semantics.
I have discussed this with my students and many report the same feeling. They have also mentioned the aggressive quality of the text and that some friends get upset if there is not an immediate reply or offended if they are somehow left out of a group text. The level of "friendly" surveillance is almost stalkerish (if freinding is a word, then stalkerish can be a word!).
This is not directly my area, but is anyone doing any research on this?
-TED
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