I cannot help but wonder if Eero's posting is not actually a troll, because I cannot believe that anyone that claims to be a scholar would make such statements (unless of course the horse and blinders analogy is correct). But that said, according to Eero, as a discipline, we should: * Ignore the needs and perceptions of the individual * Look only at numbers which of course represent real data * Focus on commercially significant projects * Abandon all traditions that are not positivist (not explicitly stated, but implied) * Stomp out anything that disagrees or competes with this world view. * All work in a monster division Sounds like maybe someone got their application to Microsoft mixed up with their posting to air-l. ;-) Regards, Kevin W. Tharp