The state of Internet Law
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto. Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade. Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-) Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche? Please discuss! -- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education -- Sent with Sparrow
Harvard, Stanford, Yale & Columbia are the top law schools in the country. So my guess is that the area is not being dismissed, but is viewed as cutting edge. It will take a bit of time before other schools get onboard, but they will--the internet and digital technologies, and the challenges they pose for traditional law aren't going away. Christopher J. Richter Associate Professor Communication Studies Hollins University PO Box 9652 Roanoke, VA 24020 540-362-6358 ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Jones [thomasallenjones@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:50 PM To: AoIR-L Aoir Subject: [Air-L] The state of Internet Law In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto. Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade. Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-) Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche? Please discuss! -- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education -- Sent with Sparrow _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
Well, actually, no. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and other top schools are mostly latecomers to the party. A decade or more ago, there was very little at the "top" schools in terms of law and technology programs; everything was at middle-tier schools. It took the prestigious schools a while to catch up. The earliest programs I am aware of were at Arizona State University and University of Dayton, beginning back in the mid 1980s; the first top-ranked school to enter the field was really U.C. Berkeley, which continues to have one of the best, and very likely THE best, program in the U.S. Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
Harvard, Stanford, Yale & Columbia are the top law schools in the country. So my guess is that the area is not being dismissed, but is viewed as cutting edge. It will take a bit of time before other schools get onboard, but they will--the internet and digital technologies, and the challenges they pose for traditional law aren't going away.
Christopher J. Richter Associate Professor Communication Studies Hollins University PO Box 9652 Roanoke, VA 24020 540-362-6358 ________________________________________ From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Jones [thomasallenjones@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:50 PM To: AoIR-L Aoir Subject: [Air-L] The state of Internet Law
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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From my experience, few law schools have formalized "tracks". Many have centers or institutes that focus on particular areas. Along with the schools you list, NYLS and Santa Clara come to mind as additional schools with robust information law / tech law centers. I'm also curious as to your designation of "Law, Science and Technology" as equivalent to "Internet or Cyber Law", as the former seems to be much more inclusive of legal issues beyond simply those related to the Internet. These don't seem like one-to-one homonyms to me.... Have you seen them used interchangeably? Best, Michael. -- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies Director, BS in Information Science & Technology Program Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Thomas Jones wrote:
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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I should also mention Fordham, and I'm sure I'm leaving many others out... -mz On Dec 15, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
From my experience, few law schools have formalized "tracks". Many have centers or institutes that focus on particular areas. Along with the schools you list, NYLS and Santa Clara come to mind as additional schools with robust information law / tech law centers.
I'm also curious as to your designation of "Law, Science and Technology" as equivalent to "Internet or Cyber Law", as the former seems to be much more inclusive of legal issues beyond simply those related to the Internet. These don't seem like one-to-one homonyms to me.... Have you seen them used interchangeably?
Best, Michael.
-- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies Director, BS in Information Science & Technology Program Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org
On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Thomas Jones wrote:
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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On second thought I think the dichotomy may be more correctly described as "offline" law vs "online" law??? Food for thought? -- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education -- Sent with Sparrow On Thursday, December 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
I should also mention Fordham, and I'm sure I'm leaving many others out... -mz
On Dec 15, 2010, at 11:18 PM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
From my experience, few law schools have formalized "tracks". Many have centers or institutes that focus on particular areas. Along with the schools you list, NYLS and Santa Clara come to mind as additional schools with robust information law / tech law centers.
I'm also curious as to your designation of "Law, Science and Technology" as equivalent to "Internet or Cyber Law", as the former seems to be much more inclusive of legal issues beyond simply those related to the Internet. These don't seem like one-to-one homonyms to me.... Have you seen them used interchangeably?
Best, Michael.
-- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies Director, BS in Information Science & Technology Program Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org
On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Thomas Jones wrote:
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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Internet Law seems to be categorically under the LST umbrella at the Universities most popularly known for teaching it: http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/degrees/jd/pos/lawscitech/index.html http://www.law.stanford.edu/program/centers/ Other schools teach this through an Intellectual Property track, Privacy track, and Ive even seen similar structured programs taught in Public Interest programs. Youll also see more "Institute of ..." than actual law tracks. Its a start I think, or at least an acknowledgement of its validity. My concern is the rate of adoption especially given how rapid the digital domain grows. I think that the holistic nature of the Internet encompassing parts of so many areas makes it more of a generality, and likely more properly, or correctly categorized under said umbrella. I would not dismiss the feasibility that, as noted in an earlier email, Internet Law is in itself an entirety of law practiced today in a different domain. If we think about it nearly every aspect of "face-to-face" law applies within the "cyber" domain, but interpreted in accordance with its appropriate context. I think this perspective is intellectually curious, and I would love to read more about how traditional law has, and has not applied, different or otherwise, to the digital domain. FYI - I try not to use "cyber" too often - its a term that is often used when sensationalizing or fear mongering (ie cyberwar). -- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education -- Sent with Sparrow On Thursday, December 16, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Michael Zimmer wrote:
From my experience, few law schools have formalized "tracks". Many have centers or institutes that focus on particular areas. Along with the schools you list, NYLS and Santa Clara come to mind as additional schools with robust information law / tech law centers.
I'm also curious as to your designation of "Law, Science and Technology" as equivalent to "Internet or Cyber Law", as the former seems to be much more inclusive of legal issues beyond simply those related to the Internet. These don't seem like one-to-one homonyms to me.... Have you seen them used interchangeably?
Best, Michael.
-- Michael Zimmer, PhD Assistant Professor, School of Information Studies Director, BS in Information Science & Technology Program Associate, Center for Information Policy Research University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee e: zimmerm@uwm.edu w: www.michaelzimmer.org
On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Thomas Jones wrote:
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
Sent with Sparrow
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The university I just exited has a law and tech law program. They are guided by a popular lawyer named Micheal Geist http://www.michaelgeist.ca/. May be he is full of himself but I am not backing that statement up. Here is a list of his courses http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/blogsection/5/170/ He is at the University of Ottawa. I attend there law students and technology seminars and they are great. I managed two undergrad law and sociology course at the sister school in town http://www.carleton.ca/law Geist has recently had a popular newspaper column about law and tech and favours discussions of copyright which personally I think it wrong headed Internet law. He previously and may still does provide a legal newsletter service on Internet law cases. Mind you he is also a nice guy and helped me out a bit via e- mail when I was an undergrad so I think he also supports learning and does not come across as some professor snob. What else to discuss? The price of law schools are unregulated and the tuition is much too high. The University of Ottawa recently fired an activist physics professor. No all is not good at school these days. Peter Timusk at571@ncf.ca ptimusk@sympatico.ca web: www.crystalcomputing.net blogs www.cyborgcitizen.org -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Jones Sent: December-15-10 10:50 PM To: AoIR-L Aoir Subject: [Air-L] The state of Internet Law In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto. Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade. Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-) Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche? Please discuss! -- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education -- Sent with Sparrow _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://www.aoir.org/
We (well, my colleagues in Law) offer at least one: http://www.essex.ac.uk/law/pgstudy/taughtdegrees/llm-it-media-ecommerce.shtm which comprises a range of relevant modules. Ben On 16 Dec 2010, at 03:50, Thomas Jones wrote:
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
-- Ben Anderson Sociology @ Essex http://www.essex.ac.uk/sociology/staff/profile.aspx?ID=118 Centre for Research in Economic Sociology and Innovation http://cresi.essex.ac.uk/getperson?personID=1
Er -- not sure where you are getting your information, but this is almost completely wrong. There are dozens and dozens of law schools in the U.S. with this type of program. Far from being "young and vibrant," many of the programs go back 15 to 20 years, and the field is seen by many as a bit hackneyed. Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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Is there such a list of dozens and dozens of law schools in the US that teach this program? Ive been searching to no avail - finding only the major Ivy's and top Publics. I know many offer a class or two, but I haven't seen many with a program designed around it. Best, -- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education -- Sent with Sparrow On Friday, December 17, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Dan L. Burk wrote:
Er -- not sure where you are getting your information, but this is almost completely wrong. There are dozens and dozens of law schools in the U.S. with this type of program. Far from being "young and vibrant," many of the programs go back 15 to 20 years, and the field is seen by many as a bit hackneyed.
Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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I am not aware of anyone who is compiled a list. I have probably visited or spoken at most of them since I started teaching in the area about 15 years ago. And, it seems very likely that you have been searching for the wrong things. One of the previous comments pointed out your conflation of "law, science, and technology" with "cyberlaw/internet law," the latter being a subset of the former. The reason that you are finding in most places "a class or two" is that, after a decade or more, most of the subject matter has migrated back into the core curriculum, rather than being broken out separately. So, the constitutional law materials are taught in constitutional law, the jurisdictional materials are taught in civil procedure, the copyright cases are taught in copyright, etc., etc. Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336
Is there such a list of dozens and dozens of law schools in the US that teach this program? Ive been searching to no avail - finding only the major Ivy's and top Publics. I know many offer a class or two, but I haven't seen many with a program designed around it.
Best,
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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On Friday, December 17, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Dan L. Burk wrote:
Er -- not sure where you are getting your information, but this is almost completely wrong. There are dozens and dozens of law schools in the U.S. with this type of program. Far from being "young and vibrant," many of the programs go back 15 to 20 years, and the field is seen by many as a bit hackneyed.
Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
One should guard against preaching to young people success in the customary form as the main aim in life. The most important motive for work in school and in life is pleasure in work, pleasure in its result, and the knowledge of the value of the result to the community. -- Albert Einstein, On Education --
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Although I am not directly familiar with it, the University of Oslo has had a focus on this area for 15 or 20 years. Jon Bing is the person who is person who is perhaps most central here. Rich Ling -----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Dan L. Burk Sent: 17. desember 2010 07:12 To: Thomas Jones Cc: AoIR-L Aoir Subject: Re: [Air-L] The state of Internet Law Er -- not sure where you are getting your information, but this is almost completely wrong. There are dozens and dozens of law schools in the U.S. with this type of program. Far from being "young and vibrant," many of the programs go back 15 to 20 years, and the field is seen by many as a bit hackneyed. Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336 bits: dburk@uci.edu
In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
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Yes. Jon has an ongoing friendly rivalry with Yves Poullet at Namur (Belgium) as to who has the oldest computer law program in Europe. At this point I think they have actually both been at it for closer to 30 years. Dan L. Burk School of Law University of California, Irvine 4500 Berkeley Place Irvine, CA 92697-8000 Voice: (949) 824-9325 Fax: (949)824-7336
Although I am not directly familiar with it, the University of Oslo has had a focus on this area for 15 or 20 years. Jon Bing is the person who is person who is perhaps most central here.
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-----Original Message----- From: air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Dan L. Burk Sent: 17. desember 2010 07:12 To: Thomas Jones Cc: AoIR-L Aoir Subject: Re: [Air-L] The state of Internet Law
Er -- not sure where you are getting your information, but this is almost completely wrong. There are dozens and dozens of law schools in the U.S. with this type of program. Far from being "young and vibrant," many of the programs go back 15 to 20 years, and the field is seen by many as a bit hackneyed.
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In the US there are only a handful of law schools teaching Law, Science, and Technology tracks - otherwise known as Internet or Cyber Law. Harvard, Stanford, Yale, Columbia, and a few others have such a program or similar thereto.
Most other law schools only offer a class or two in what is a young and vibrant area of law, especially in light of the recent Wikileaks escapade.
Do any of you have any insight into other Law Schools that have, or are planning to have a Law, Science, and Technology Law track within their Law School? (Yes, Im looking for candidate law schools to apply to as well) :-)
Do you think this is an area that is being ignored or dismissed as a legitimate niche?
Please discuss!
-- Thomas Jones http://www.TheOtherTomJones.com http://twitter.com/OtherTomJones http://www.linkedin.com/in/TheOtherTomJones
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