At 12:01 PM 1/22/02 -0500, you wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-admin@aoir.org [mailto:air-l-admin@aoir.org]On Behalf Of Barry Wellman Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:48 AM To: aoir list Subject: [Air-l] spam, if you can't lick 'em...
When I was a kid, I had a stamp collection. I'll never forget the thrill of getting a Tanna Tuvu stamp.
I am starting to notice that my spam is coming from similar exotic locales. For example, one today came from "chinahot" but by way of ".kr". I can't even begin to guess where .kr is.
So I am thinking of starting a spam collection, of exotic .somethings. Who knows, perhaps it will be worth money someday to a future Brewster Kahle. Would someone please point me to a list of Internet suffixes?
I've actually been doing a little practical research (for webhosting purposes) on two-letter-nation-suffixes for domain names. I'm fascinated by the range of policies. For instance, Tonga, which owns .to, is all too happy to sell their sites to non-tongans for $50 a year (vs. like $10 a year for .com, .net, or .org addresses). So now you've got come.to, listen.to, etc. Russia's another big one for reasons I don't understand. And there are a few others. But while some countries have decided to capitalize as much as possible on their domain names and sell to all comers, others reserve them entirely for their own citizens. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, except in the case of Tonga where ".to" is a cool suffix for a domain name. I also know of some lists that filter some nation-suffixes because they only ever get spam from places with those addresses. So the selling to all comers could really screw things up for citizens of the country who want to set up a legit domain name later. If you want to know where that .kr comes from, you can find out here: http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm . Note that the ".us" suffix is going up for sale sometime in 2002. I guess the whole thing's fascinating because it's all about the politics of naming, since the named addresses are just devices so we don't have to remember numeric servers. Best, --J
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, except in the case of Tonga where ".to" is a cool suffix for a domain name.
Others with rhyme and reason include ".tv" (marketed to television stations) or Laos's ".la" (marketed to Los Angeles businesses). mark
there was a story a while ago, and i have yet to see how this is working out, but apparently tuvalu .tv the island and kingship is being washed away, so that the state will no longer exist, no territory=no state in theory. what does this mean to .tv? opinions Mark Warschauer wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, except in the case of Tonga where ".to" is a cool suffix for a domain name.
Others with rhyme and reason include ".tv" (marketed to television stations) or Laos's ".la" (marketed to Los Angeles businesses). mark
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/since i mentioned that i wondered what would happen to this, and today they announced what would happen to .tv "As everyone is so worried about Microsoft these days, another monopoly is slipping through the cracks. VeriSign <http://www.verisign.com/> has paid the country of Tuvalu $45 million in cash for The .TV Corporation <http://www.tv/>, as stated by this press release <http://corporate.verisign.com/news/2002/pr_20020107b.html>. Same great service, different obscure TLD!"/ -- jeremy hunsinger http://www.cddc.vt.edu/jeremy cddc/political science http://www.cddc.vt.edu 526 major williams hall 0130 http://www.dromocracy.com virginia tech -under construction blacksburg, va 24061 540-231-7614
Moldavia's .MD for health care organizations... --JW Mark Warschauer wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it, except in the case of Tonga where ".to" is a cool suffix for a domain name.
Others with rhyme and reason include ".tv" (marketed to television stations) or Laos's ".la" (marketed to Los Angeles businesses). mark
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Jonathan Sterne wrote:
I guess the whole thing's fascinating because it's all about the politics of naming, since the named addresses are just devices so we don't have to remember numeric servers.
I had considered squatting on some domains about six years ago, but learned that browser makers were beginning to hard-code triggers into the address box. The standard convention had been that if "shoe" was entered in the address box, browers would try "shoe.com" then "shoe.net" then "shoe.org" etc. But Microsoft (for one) was trying to make money, charging (for example) Keds so that "shoe" in the address box triggers "keds.com", "food" triggers "kfc.com", etcetera. In short, named (much less bought and owned) addresses seemed to be doomed to insignificance. Whatever happened with that? Was MS asking/charging too much? Did no one buy in (literally) to the idea? Are there some address codes/triggers that *are* hard-coded, or was that dropped entirely? - EG
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