I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the first one was the following: http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ? Regards Antonio
funny you should ask. i have a copy of the page that tim prepared for hypertext 91 http://www.ibiblio.org/pjones/old.page.html the " demonfdgfgstration " comes from tim showing me how you could edit easily. remember that this was on a NeXT so linking and editting was done with highlighting. i made my own version at the same time based on tim's http://www.ibiblio.org/pjones/old.paul.html On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Antonio Roversi wrote: +I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the +first one was the following: + +http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html + +but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee +and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ? + +Regards + +Antonio +_______________________________________________ +The Air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org mailing list +is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org +Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org + +Join the Association of Internet Researchers: +http://aoir.org/airjoin.html + ========================================================================== Paul Jones "Work as if you live in the early days of a better nation." Alasdair Gray http://www.ibiblio.org/pjones/blog/ pjones@ibiblio.org voice: (919) 962-7600 fax: (919) 962-8071 ===========================================================================
that is the first picture on the web, not the first webpage. you can find reference to the first page on wikipedia as I recall. On Mar 2, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Antonio Roversi wrote:
I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the first one was the following:
http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html
but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ?
Regards
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Tim Berners-Lee's FAQ probably provides as accurate an answer as you'll find on this: http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/FAQ.html#Examples Neil I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the first one was the following: http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ? Regards Antonio _______________________________________________ The Air-l-aoir.org@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org Join the Association of Internet Researchers: http://aoir.org/airjoin.html
Interesting that the earliest pages he offers are dated November 1992. And while "the CERN girls" probably were the first band *photo* on the web, I question whether they were the first band, as I'm pretty sure Phish were: If I could drum up a version of http://www.phish.net/faq from mid 1992, would that mean I'd have the earliest archived web pages? -eg
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Tim Berners-Lee's FAQ probably provides as accurate an answer as you'll find on this:
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/FAQ.html#Examples
Neil
I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the first one was the following:
http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html
but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ?
Regards
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no, because FAQ's were found on gopher too, and there were some back in the bbs era too, you can find evidence of faq's on textfiles.com On Mar 2, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Ellis Godard wrote:
Interesting that the earliest pages he offers are dated November 1992. And while "the CERN girls" probably were the first band *photo* on the web, I question whether they were the first band, as I'm pretty sure Phish were: If I could drum up a version of http://www.phish.net/faq from mid 1992, would that mean I'd have the earliest archived web pages?
-eg
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Tim Berners-Lee's FAQ probably provides as accurate an answer as you'll find on this:
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/FAQ.html#Examples
Neil
I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the first one was the following:
http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html
but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ?
Regards
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Quoting jeremy hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu>:
no, because FAQ's were found on gopher too, and there were some back in the bbs era too, you can find evidence of faq's on textfiles.com
Usenet was filled with FAQs. Newsgroup FAQs were, and presumably are, posted to the groups on a regular basis and available on news.answers (or something like that.) I wrote one that is now widely available on the WWW, but it initially was Usenet-only. ---- Holly Kruse Faculty of Communication University of Tulsa 600 S. College Ave. Tulsa, OK 74104 918-631-3845 holly-kruse@utulsa.edu
yes, I think usenet is probably the canonical faq origination. On Mar 2, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Holly Kruse wrote:
Quoting jeremy hunsinger <jhuns@vt.edu>:
no, because FAQ's were found on gopher too, and there were some back in the bbs era too, you can find evidence of faq's on textfiles.com
Usenet was filled with FAQs. Newsgroup FAQs were, and presumably are, posted to the groups on a regular basis and available on news.answers (or something like that.) I wrote one that is now widely available on the WWW, but it initially was Usenet-only.
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I don't get it. What does gopher have to do with "First Web Page"? This FAQ was in HTML format by November 1992. Are you saying that gopher resources are web pages? -eg
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no, because FAQ's were found on gopher too, and there were some back in the bbs era too, you can find evidence of faq's on textfiles.com On Mar 2, 2005, at 2:19 PM, Ellis Godard wrote:
Interesting that the earliest pages he offers are dated November 1992. And while "the CERN girls" probably were the first band *photo* on the web, I question whether they were the first band, as I'm pretty sure Phish were: If I could drum up a version of http://www.phish.net/faq from mid 1992, would that mean I'd have the earliest archived web pages?
-eg
-----Original Message----- From: air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces@listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Neil Randall Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 9:28 AM To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org; antonio.roversi@unibo.it Subject: RE: [Air-l] First Web Page
Tim Berners-Lee's FAQ probably provides as accurate an answer as you'll find on this:
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/FAQ.html#Examples
Neil
I am looking for the first Web Page published in the WWW. I was told that the first one was the following:
http://musiclub.web.cern.ch/MusiClub/bands/cernettes/firstband.html
but it seems that the original, first Web page was published by Berners Lee and was a sort of how-to use the Web. Any idea where to find this page ?
Regards
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no that faq's were available before the web, so having a faq would not necessarily indicate anything. now a faq on the web might be an indicator of a first, but it would probably be disputed. On Mar 2, 2005, at 2:58 PM, Ellis Godard wrote:
I don't get it. What does gopher have to do with "First Web Page"?
This FAQ was in HTML format by November 1992.
Are you saying that gopher resources are web pages?
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Jeremy wrote:
no that faq's were available before the web, so having a faq would not necessarily indicate anything.
Of course not. But, then, nearly any content on the web existed before the web in some other form, at least as of 1992.
now a faq on the web might be an indicator of a first,
What's the difference between "indicator of a first" and "first"?
but it would probably be disputed.
On the grounds that an HTML FAQ isn't a web page? Is www.m-w.com not a web page because dictionaries were available before the web? -eg
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