etiquette for reusing or reposting blog posts
Hi all, I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs? When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all? What are people's experiences and feelings on this? Thanks! Best, Lokman
I would tend to doubt that there is a blogosphere-wide standard of etiquette here (or on most matters, for that matter). I suspect that most people indicate that the post appears in multiple places, at least on the less-viewed blog. In some cases, they might also turn off comments in one place to try to concentrate conversation. In others, they might simply summarize what they have written something elsewhere. I've generally used my personal blog to toss everything into, and often posts that show up on my course blogs, project blogs, etc., go there too. I haven't been consistent in how, or if, I've noted this, but have done summaries and full posts, with and without cross-links. - Alex On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. <--snip--->
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I realize this isn't about etiquette per se, but some venues don't like to repost content that has already been posted elsewhere online because, as part of its anti-search engine spam initiatives, Google may downgrade a website's PageRank for having "duplicate content." Eric. -- Eric Goldman Assistant Professor, Santa Clara University School of Law Director, High Tech Law Institute egoldman@gmail.com Personal website: http://www.ericgoldman.org Blogs: http://blog.ericgoldman.org and http://blog.ericgoldman.org/personal/ On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Alex Halavais <alex@halavais.net> wrote:
I would tend to doubt that there is a blogosphere-wide standard of etiquette here (or on most matters, for that matter). I suspect that most people indicate that the post appears in multiple places, at least on the less-viewed blog. In some cases, they might also turn off comments in one place to try to concentrate conversation. In others, they might simply summarize what they have written something elsewhere.
I've generally used my personal blog to toss everything into, and often posts that show up on my course blogs, project blogs, etc., go there too. I haven't been consistent in how, or if, I've noted this, but have done summaries and full posts, with and without cross-links.
- Alex
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. <--snip--->
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I think you will find there was a long running discussion on this that spanned across at least the academic blogosphere. That issue was one of citation...though I think the issue of ethics is a good one that has not, to my knowledge, been well explored. Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Adjunct Instructor - School of Informatics, IUPUI, Indianapolis IN USA and IUPUC, Columbus IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com Quoting Alex Halavais <alex@halavais.net>:
I would tend to doubt that there is a blogosphere-wide standard of etiquette here (or on most matters, for that matter). I suspect that most people indicate that the post appears in multiple places, at least on the less-viewed blog. In some cases, they might also turn off comments in one place to try to concentrate conversation. In others, they might simply summarize what they have written something elsewhere.
I've generally used my personal blog to toss everything into, and often posts that show up on my course blogs, project blogs, etc., go there too. I haven't been consistent in how, or if, I've noted this, but have done summaries and full posts, with and without cross-links.
- Alex
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. <--snip--->
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Hi Lokman,
Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
You should use TrackBacks for your challenge or am I misconfusing this? TrackBacks essentially provide a means whereby different web sites can post messages to one another not just to inform each other about citations, but also to alert one another of related resources. Typically, a blog may display quotations from another blog through the use of TrackBacks. This also leaves Google friendly in terms of "duplicate content" as Eric had mentioned. I see TrackBacks all over the BlogSphere in Germany - not sure about the US side.... sam
People do it all the time. Look at CIRCLEID as an example. Most of the posts there are also posted to the individuals blogs. Different blogs have different audiences - some are more personal - others are clear communities surrounding specific topics of interest. Sometimes people try out version 1.0 on there personal blog and then post version 2.0 on a community like CIRCLEID I will say this as an aggregator. I know some people who post 100% of their personal stuff on a collective blog -- after a while of filtering through the duplicate posts, I detect it and drop the personal blog from my aggregation. There is a frequency-to-noise ratio issue. Duplicates become noise. People will seek to filter the noise if it becomes a problem. =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Cybertelecom :: Federal Internet Law & Policy www.cybertelecom.org =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> Subject: [Air-L] etiquette for reusing or reposting blog posts To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:33 PM Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs?
When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
Thanks!
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Aggregation bring in a very interesting wrinkle to the discussion. They are, in essence, a passive way of appropriating posts, in that the addition of the rss feed to the aggregators cue is initially made by a human being but after that all posts flow without intervention. In short, it is possible for a blog to be added to an aggregator without the writers knowledge and for their posts to regularly be presented on the aggregation site without the writers knowledge or approval. Of course, since the initial feed was public, and most aggregation sites clearly attribute the posts to the proper blog the author is cited. So the real issues become ones of ethics and audience. As with all of the angles on this discussion...more research is necessary. Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Adjunct Instructor - School of Informatics, IUPUI, Indianapolis IN USA and IUPUC, Columbus IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com Quoting Robert Cannon <rcannon100@yahoo.com>:
People do it all the time. Look at CIRCLEID as an example. Most of the posts there are also posted to the individuals blogs. Different blogs have different audiences - some are more personal - others are clear communities surrounding specific topics of interest. Sometimes people try out version 1.0 on there personal blog and then post version 2.0 on a community like CIRCLEID
I will say this as an aggregator. I know some people who post 100% of their personal stuff on a collective blog -- after a while of filtering through the duplicate posts, I detect it and drop the personal blog from my aggregation.
There is a frequency-to-noise ratio issue. Duplicates become noise. People will seek to filter the noise if it becomes a problem.
=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Cybertelecom :: Federal Internet Law & Policy www.cybertelecom.org =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> Subject: [Air-L] etiquette for reusing or reposting blog posts To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:33 PM Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs?
When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
Thanks!
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if you want your posts to be pvt - set them as private and select only some readers? On Jul 25, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Lois Ann Scheidt wrote:
Aggregation bring in a very interesting wrinkle to the discussion. They are, in essence, a passive way of appropriating posts, in that the addition of the rss feed to the aggregators cue is initially made by a human being but after that all posts flow without intervention. In short, it is possible for a blog to be added to an aggregator without the writers knowledge and for their posts to regularly be presented on the aggregation site without the writers knowledge or approval. Of course, since the initial feed was public, and most aggregation sites clearly attribute the posts to the proper blog the author is cited. So the real issues become ones of ethics and audience.
As with all of the angles on this discussion...more research is necessary.
Lois Ann Scheidt
Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA
Adjunct Instructor - School of Informatics, IUPUI, Indianapolis IN USA and IUPUC, Columbus IN USA
Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com
Quoting Robert Cannon <rcannon100@yahoo.com>:
People do it all the time. Look at CIRCLEID as an example. Most of the posts there are also posted to the individuals blogs. Different blogs have different audiences - some are more personal - others are clear communities surrounding specific topics of interest. Sometimes people try out version 1.0 on there personal blog and then post version 2.0 on a community like CIRCLEID
I will say this as an aggregator. I know some people who post 100% of their personal stuff on a collective blog -- after a while of filtering through the duplicate posts, I detect it and drop the personal blog from my aggregation.
There is a frequency-to-noise ratio issue. Duplicates become noise. People will seek to filter the noise if it becomes a problem.
=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~= Cybertelecom :: Federal Internet Law & Policy www.cybertelecom.org =~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> Subject: [Air-L] etiquette for reusing or reposting blog posts To: air-l@listserv.aoir.org Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 2:33 PM Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs?
When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
Thanks!
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--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Lois Ann Scheidt <lscheidt@indiana.edu> wrote:
Aggregation bring in a very interesting wrinkle to the discussion. They are, in essence, a passive way of appropriating posts,
Hum. Not sure what you are saying, but I think you misunderstand how aggregators work. Aggregators act basically like clipping services - filtering through the information noise of the Internet and providing a product closely tuned to the audience's interests - through tagging, social networks, or other means of distribution. Aggregators do not copy the content, they aggregate links based on headlines and RSS feeds. RSS feeds are a mechanism for authors to announce to the galaxy that their content exists. "Appropriating" is a loaded negative term. Aggregators (at least myself, digg, delicious, topix....) are not appropriating in that they are not taking the content of the authors. On a typical day I might review 400 news and blog posts through RSS feeds, and boil them down to 20 posts directly related to Internet law and policy. Nothing is appropriated. The clips link directly to the original authors contents. Many blogs and news feeds actively add their feeds to aggregators (indeed when I have heard from authors the most is asking why I DID NOT include their post). Authors add their content to Digg. Authors subscribe their RSS feeds to aggregators like TOPIX. Authors want the existence of their posts advertised; readers want to be able to filter 400 posts down to 20 so they can follow their area of interest. Aggregators are in the middle.
in that the addition of the rss feed to the aggregators cue is initially made by a human being but after that all posts flow without intervention. In
Hum. Again, not sure what you mean. Posts are created by authors. Posts are picked up by Aggregators. In the Digg or Delicious models, some third party thinks they are cool, and tags them, and they become part of the social network. Lots of human intervention.
short, it is possible for a blog to be added to an aggregator without the writers knowledge
Again, hum. Newsgator and Google Analytics will show you who is picking up your stuff. It is pretty easy to know who is linking to you. I think some CMS includes in it the function, "who is linking here" and for their posts to regularly be
presented on the aggregation site without the writers knowledge or approval.
Hum. Approval is not needed. It's Fair Use pursuant to the copyright law. And again, most authors who put their content out, want it read. Aggregators promote content. The aggregator is linking to the content - not copying the content. Of
course, since the initial feed was public, and most aggregation sites clearly attribute the posts to the proper blog the author is cited. So the real issues become ones of ethics and audience.
What's the issue?
As with all of the angles on this discussion...more research is necessary.
Actually, this area is will resolved. It is well established that linking to people's content falls square withing copyright. See Is it Legal to Link http://www.cybertelecom.org/ip/link.htm Further, culturally, most people encourage you to link to their content. Aggregators are linking to content in a large and organized scale. B Cybertelecom
It is my understandings, and I am rarely the most technical person in any room, that the type of aggregation you refer to for your site, is basically manual aggregation - while the rss feeds come to you though automated means your decision making and posting processes are done manually. While those used by the services you mentioned (digg, delicious, topix) are automated aggregators...who require that blogs register with them to be included in the service. Also in the automated category are those blogs (or services) that do pull whole posts in their entirety from rss feeds into their website. Some are splog pages...using someone else's text to make their site look slightly more legitimate. Some are friends pulling together their friends posts much like Twitter gathers your networks twits. Some are owned by folks with an interest in a topic who automate aggregation for keywords or specific sites that discuss that topic. The ways to do this, as usually, are limited only to the technology and the persons ability to use that technology. I wait patently to be corrected on the many technical misstatements that may have appeared in this post. Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Adjunct Instructor - School of Informatics, IUPUI, Indianapolis IN USA and IUPUC, Columbus IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com Quoting Robert Cannon <rcannon100@yahoo.com>:
--- On Fri, 7/25/08, Lois Ann Scheidt <lscheidt@indiana.edu> wrote:
Aggregation bring in a very interesting wrinkle to the discussion. They are, in essence, a passive way of appropriating posts,
Hum. Not sure what you are saying, but I think you misunderstand how aggregators work. Aggregators act basically like clipping services - filtering through the information noise of the Internet and providing a product closely tuned to the audience's interests - through tagging, social networks, or other means of distribution. Aggregators do not copy the content, they aggregate links based on headlines and RSS feeds. RSS feeds are a mechanism for authors to announce to the galaxy that their content exists.
"Appropriating" is a loaded negative term. Aggregators (at least myself, digg, delicious, topix....) are not appropriating in that they are not taking the content of the authors.
On a typical day I might review 400 news and blog posts through RSS feeds, and boil them down to 20 posts directly related to Internet law and policy. Nothing is appropriated. The clips link directly to the original authors contents. Many blogs and news feeds actively add their feeds to aggregators (indeed when I have heard from authors the most is asking why I DID NOT include their post). Authors add their content to Digg. Authors subscribe their RSS feeds to aggregators like TOPIX. Authors want the existence of their posts advertised; readers want to be able to filter 400 posts down to 20 so they can follow their area of interest. Aggregators are in the middle.
in that the addition of the rss feed to the aggregators cue is initially made by a human being but after that all posts flow without intervention. In
Hum. Again, not sure what you mean. Posts are created by authors. Posts are picked up by Aggregators. In the Digg or Delicious models, some third party thinks they are cool, and tags them, and they become part of the social network. Lots of human intervention.
short, it is possible for a blog to be added to an aggregator without the writers knowledge
Again, hum. Newsgator and Google Analytics will show you who is picking up your stuff. It is pretty easy to know who is linking to you. I think some CMS includes in it the function, "who is linking here"
and for their posts to regularly be
presented on the aggregation site without the writers knowledge or approval.
Hum. Approval is not needed. It's Fair Use pursuant to the copyright law. And again, most authors who put their content out, want it read. Aggregators promote content. The aggregator is linking to the content - not copying the content.
Of
course, since the initial feed was public, and most aggregation sites clearly attribute the posts to the proper blog the author is cited. So the real issues become ones of ethics and audience.
What's the issue?
As with all of the angles on this discussion...more research is necessary.
Actually, this area is will resolved. It is well established that linking to people's content falls square withing copyright.
See Is it Legal to Link http://www.cybertelecom.org/ip/link.htm
Further, culturally, most people encourage you to link to their content. Aggregators are linking to content in a large and organized scale.
B Cybertelecom _______________________________________________ The Air-L@listserv.aoir.org mailing list is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at: http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
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It seems that you are asking a different question than those addressed so far in the replies. If I have this right, you are asking whether people think it's ok for a person to post an entry on a personal blog and then also use it as a contribution to another blog. I think this probably would be up to the group blog owners and probably also depends on whether both your personal blog and the second blog are in some sense professional; publications for which you might receive some kind of credit. Kind of like when students ask me if they can submit the same work for two classes. ;-) --My answer is usually that the other teach has to agree and we must negotiate some extra work. On the other hand, I and many use personal blogs to publish notes, drafts, or documents we want to make open-access, so it's a pretty fuzzy area. Are you looking for advice for yourself, or are you surveying us to get a sense of general opinion? Cheers, Kim On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs?
When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
Thanks!
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I suppose I've always taken the view that anything I post online is public so please take this as coloring my take on the subject. I agree that the ethics issue is the biggest consideration, and anyone aggregating *should*get the permission of the author before connecting up feeds. that being said, if you want to keep something private, don't put it online, or else indicate that it's private in the blog, either by restricting the audience or by posting a notification. I also consider this from the perspective of an author - I post some of my non-academic writing on my blog. When I post something complete there is always a stated request that I be notified before someone passes my work along. there's the point that if you don't ask people to be considerate it might not occur to them to do so. Just weighing in here! This is a fun thread. Best regards to all, Meryl Krieger On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Kim De Vries <cuuixsilver@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems that you are asking a different question than those addressed so far in the replies. If I have this right, you are asking whether people think it's ok for a person to post an entry on a personal blog and then also use it as a contribution to another blog.
I think this probably would be up to the group blog owners and probably also depends on whether both your personal blog and the second blog are in some sense professional; publications for which you might receive some kind of credit. Kind of like when students ask me if they can submit the same work for two classes. ;-)
--My answer is usually that the other teach has to agree and we must negotiate some extra work.
On the other hand, I and many use personal blogs to publish notes, drafts, or documents we want to make open-access, so it's a pretty fuzzy area.
Are you looking for advice for yourself, or are you surveying us to get a sense of general opinion?
Cheers,
Kim
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs?
When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
Thanks!
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-- Meryl Krieger Ph.D., Folklore & Ethnomusicology Indiana University Bloomington
I totally agree Meryl, and I do believe that more and more writers are using the technology to limit access to their most revealing works. That being said, it, of course, creates conundrums for those of us that do our research in these venues...internet researchers should be well versed in conundrums by now. As a researcher who works with teen populations the issue is always what they should know before they do whatever they do online...obviously should and did are very different terms. As always, I think the real issues underlay the theme of the discussion. As has been said about the original post...is the issue one of the author's reuse of their own posts, or are the posts being appropriated by others...with or without the authors permission, and if they are being reposted elsewhere how are they being used? As one who once found one of my blog posts reposted on a porn spam/aggregation site which was sending additional traffic my way...people who were not my usual academic audience and who complained about being sent to such a "boring" site...I can tell that it isn't always fun to be a blogger. LOL One part of the discussion I find very interesting is the reuse of blog posts (blog writ large here to include multimedia elements)...with or without permission at least for this exercise...that are then reused in some form of mashup. This use may or may not meet US copyright limits...and I have no idea about how international restrictions would apply, but from a purely aesthetic standpoint the reuse of the available to create something new is fascinating. Lois Ann Scheidt Doctoral Student - School of Library and Information Science, Indiana University, Bloomington IN USA Adjunct Instructor - School of Informatics, IUPUI, Indianapolis IN USA and IUPUC, Columbus IN USA Webpage: http://www.loisscheidt.com Blog: http://www.professional-lurker.com Quoting Meryl Krieger <meryl.krieger@gmail.com>:
I suppose I've always taken the view that anything I post online is public so please take this as coloring my take on the subject. I agree that the ethics issue is the biggest consideration, and anyone aggregating *should*get the permission of the author before connecting up feeds. that being said, if you want to keep something private, don't put it online, or else indicate that it's private in the blog, either by restricting the audience or by posting a notification.
I also consider this from the perspective of an author - I post some of my non-academic writing on my blog. When I post something complete there is always a stated request that I be notified before someone passes my work along. there's the point that if you don't ask people to be considerate it might not occur to them to do so.
Just weighing in here! This is a fun thread.
Best regards to all,
Meryl Krieger
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Kim De Vries <cuuixsilver@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems that you are asking a different question than those addressed so far in the replies. If I have this right, you are asking whether people think it's ok for a person to post an entry on a personal blog and then also use it as a contribution to another blog.
I think this probably would be up to the group blog owners and probably also depends on whether both your personal blog and the second blog are in some sense professional; publications for which you might receive some kind of credit. Kind of like when students ask me if they can submit the same work for two classes. ;-)
--My answer is usually that the other teach has to agree and we must negotiate some extra work.
On the other hand, I and many use personal blogs to publish notes, drafts, or documents we want to make open-access, so it's a pretty fuzzy area.
Are you looking for advice for yourself, or are you surveying us to get a sense of general opinion?
Cheers,
Kim
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Lokman Tsui <lokman.tsui@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I have been wondering about what the social online norms are for reusing or reposting blog posts across different blogs. Let's say you have a personal blog and also contribute to a group blog - under what circumstance would it be okay to reuse a post you wrote for one blog for the other blog, assuming the post is relevant for both blogs?
When do you integrally copy the post, and when do you write a summary linking to the original post? Are there other ways to deal with this? Is this something considered not done at all?
What are people's experiences and feelings on this?
Thanks!
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