Many list members may find this useful. This site provides the word count of key phrases used in the first debate (e.g. hard work, wrong place at the wrong time). http://overstated.net/04/10/01-presidential-debate-analy.asp (Scroll down to Bush and then Kerry) Best, Sandeep Home Page: <http://faculty.washington.edu/sandeep> http://faculty.washington.edu/sandeep Publications: <http://faculty.washington.edu/sandeep/d/publist3.htm> http://faculty.washington.edu/sandeep/d/publist3.htm Blog: <http://sandeepworld.blogspot.com/> http://sandeepworld.blogspot.com/ Class blog: <http://searchweb.blogspot.com/> http://searchweb.blogspot.com
And a follow-up from my colleague Anjo Anjewierden:
I have applied Sigmund to the same transcript. Sigmund is a kind of electronic shrink that uses language technology to derive conceptualisations found in text. The tool is normally applied to collections of postings, for example weblogs or emails. For this exercise I considered each 90 second statement by the two debaters to be a single post.
More and results are at http://anjo.blogs.com/metis/2004/10/sigmund_on_the_.html Regards, Lilia Efimova http://blog.mathemegenic.com On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:28:54 -0700, sandeep <sandeep@u.washington.edu> wrote:
Many list members may find this useful. This site provides the word count of key phrases used in the first debate (e.g. hard work, wrong place at the wrong time).
http://overstated.net/04/10/01-presidential-debate-analy.asp (Scroll down to Bush and then Kerry)
Best,
Sandeep
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Publications: <http://faculty.washington.edu/sandeep/d/publist3.htm> http://faculty.washington.edu/sandeep/d/publist3.htm
Blog: <http://sandeepworld.blogspot.com/> http://sandeepworld.blogspot.com/
Class blog: <http://searchweb.blogspot.com/> http://searchweb.blogspot.com
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Cheney Blunder Lauded Anti-Bush Web Site By Joanne Kenen WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney probably did not intend to direct millions of television viewers to a Web site calling for President Bush's defeat but that's what a slip of the domain achieved. Anyone who heeded Cheney's advice and clicked on "factcheck.com" was greeted on Wednesday morning with a message from anti-Bush billionaire investor George Soros entitled "Why we must not reelect President Bush." "President Bush is endangering our safety, hurting our vital interests, and undermining American values," Soros' message said. Defending his record as Halliburton's chief executive, Cheney said in the Tuesday night debate that Democratic vice-presidential challenger John Edwards was trying to use Halliburton as a smokescreen. Any voter who wanted the facts, Cheney said, should check out factcheck.com -- which led to the Soros site. The Web site Cheney had in mind, factcheck.org, was not amused when the vice president proved that he was not master of the factcheckers' domain. Factcheck.org, run by the Annenberg Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said on its site on Wednesday that Cheney not only got the domain name confused, he had mischaracterized its fact-finding. "Cheney ... wrongly implied that we had rebutted allegations Edwards was making about what Cheney had done as chief executive officer of Halliburton," the site said on Wednesday. "In fact we did post an article pointing out that Cheney hasn't profited personally while in office from Halliburton's Iraq contracts, as falsely implied by a Kerry TV ad. But Edwards was talking about Cheney's responsibility for earlier Halliburton troubles. And in fact, Edwards was mostly right." The White House Web site annotated the debate transcript, parenthetically noting that Cheney meant factcheck.org, not factcheck.com. It linked the transcript to factcheck.org.
A couple of interesting follow ups on this -- Soros does not own the domain factcheck.com, the people who did own that domain (in the Caymen Islands) apparently heard the debate, got tens of thousands of hits immediately, and redirected it to the Soros site of their own initiative (much to Soros's surprise and delight, apparently). Those who went to the other domain that Cheney meant to reference, factcheck.org, were greeted with this headline: Bush Mischaracterizes Kerry's Health Plan 10.04.2004 Bush claims Kerry's plan puts "bureaucrats in control" of medical decisons, "not you, not your doctor." But experts don't agree with that. Nancy
Cheney Blunder Lauded Anti-Bush Web Site
By Joanne Kenen
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney probably did not intend to direct millions of television viewers to a Web site calling for President Bush's defeat but that's what a slip of the domain achieved. Anyone who heeded Cheney's advice and clicked on "factcheck.com" was greeted on Wednesday morning with a message from anti-Bush billionaire investor George Soros entitled "Why we must not reelect President Bush." "President Bush is endangering our safety, hurting our vital interests, and undermining American values," Soros' message said. Defending his record as Halliburton's chief executive, Cheney said in the Tuesday night debate that Democratic vice-presidential challenger John Edwards was trying to use Halliburton as a smokescreen. Any voter who wanted the facts, Cheney said, should check out factcheck.com -- which led to the Soros site. The Web site Cheney had in mind, factcheck.org, was not amused when the vice president proved that he was not master of the factcheckers' domain.
Factcheck.org, run by the Annenberg Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said on its site on Wednesday that Cheney not only got the domain name confused, he had mischaracterized its fact-finding.
"Cheney ... wrongly implied that we had rebutted allegations Edwards was making about what Cheney had done as chief executive officer of Halliburton," the site said on Wednesday.
"In fact we did post an article pointing out that Cheney hasn't profited personally while in office from Halliburton's Iraq contracts, as falsely implied by a Kerry TV ad. But Edwards was talking about Cheney's responsibility for earlier Halliburton troubles. And in fact, Edwards was mostly right."
The White House Web site annotated the debate transcript, parenthetically noting that Cheney meant factcheck.org, not factcheck.com. It linked the transcript to factcheck.org.
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thanks for that follow up, nancy! it looks like cheney made a meme, didn't mean to, and then it bit him and bit him, and then bit him. -robert On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Nancy Baym wrote:
A couple of interesting follow ups on this --
Soros does not own the domain factcheck.com, the people who did own that domain (in the Caymen Islands) apparently heard the debate, got tens of thousands of hits immediately, and redirected it to the Soros site of their own initiative (much to Soros's surprise and delight, apparently).
Those who went to the other domain that Cheney meant to reference, factcheck.org, were greeted with this headline:
Bush Mischaracterizes Kerry's Health Plan 10.04.2004
Bush claims Kerry's plan puts "bureaucrats in control" of medical decisons, "not you, not your doctor." But experts don't agree with that.
Nancy
Cheney Blunder Lauded Anti-Bush Web Site
By Joanne Kenen
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Vice President Dick Cheney probably did not intend to direct millions of television viewers to a Web site calling for President Bush's defeat but that's what a slip of the domain achieved. Anyone who heeded Cheney's advice and clicked on "factcheck.com" was greeted on Wednesday morning with a message from anti-Bush billionaire investor George Soros entitled "Why we must not reelect President Bush." "President Bush is endangering our safety, hurting our vital interests, and undermining American values," Soros' message said. Defending his record as Halliburton's chief executive, Cheney said in the Tuesday night debate that Democratic vice-presidential challenger John Edwards was trying to use Halliburton as a smokescreen. Any voter who wanted the facts, Cheney said, should check out factcheck.com -- which led to the Soros site. The Web site Cheney had in mind, factcheck.org, was not amused when the vice president proved that he was not master of the factcheckers' domain.
Factcheck.org, run by the Annenberg Center of the University of Pennsylvania, said on its site on Wednesday that Cheney not only got the domain name confused, he had mischaracterized its fact-finding.
"Cheney ... wrongly implied that we had rebutted allegations Edwards was making about what Cheney had done as chief executive officer of Halliburton," the site said on Wednesday.
"In fact we did post an article pointing out that Cheney hasn't profited personally while in office from Halliburton's Iraq contracts, as falsely implied by a Kerry TV ad. But Edwards was talking about Cheney's responsibility for earlier Halliburton troubles. And in fact, Edwards was mostly right."
The White House Web site annotated the debate transcript, parenthetically noting that Cheney meant factcheck.org, not factcheck.com. It linked the transcript to factcheck.org.
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