Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications

28 Sep 2018

      Daniel Miller wrote about this a few years ago as well (see link below),
though it was less about class than it was about generational shifts. Teens
in Europe were migrating from Facebook to a variety of social media
platforms like what's app and Line to avoid their parents' presence (and
also lack of prestige, as others on here have mentioned).

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/27/facebook-dead-and-buried-...

best,
Jessika Tremblay

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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:35:29 +0000
From: "Bell, Valarie" <Valarie.Bell@unt.edu>
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Hi David: as a matter of fact, I?m close to finishing a FB study largely
dealing with class issues. Please contact me at Valarie.Bell@unt.edu for
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Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of
the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier
teens
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fqz.com%2F1355827%2Fdo-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-income%2F&data=01%7C01%7CValarie.Bell%40unt.edu%7C47c73674fd94434e43be08d624b3db78%7C70de199207c6480fa318a1afcba03983%7C0&sdata=5q%2BtiBnPkECp5tsSNgiwLjWHwPPP0jD1r%2Fv412Kn5pg%3D&reserved=0,
speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for
these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be
interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of
them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It
surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook
in the first place.
* Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I
speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of
people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy
leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ?culture?
which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
length of text used in online communication?)
* Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are
more effective at getting their message across using social media video and
images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware
and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ?raw?
video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of
their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status
leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points,
I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help
some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:40:08 +0000
From: "Hermida, Alfred" <Alfred.Hermida@ubc.ca>
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Subject: [Air-L] CFP: Studying Incidental News: Antecedents, Dynamics
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Please share widely with colleagues. Thank you, Alfred
CALL FOR PAPERS: A themed issue of Journalism: Theory, Practice, Criticism
Studying Incidental News: Antecedents, Dynamics and Implications
Co-editors: Neta Kligler-Vilenchik, Hebrew University of Jerusalem,
Israel; Alfred Hermida, University of British Columbia, Canada; Sebastia?n
Valenzuela, Pontificia Universidad Cato?lica de Chile, Chile; Mikko Villi,
University of Jyva?skyla?, Finland
Theme rationale and scope
The term 'Incidental News' refers to the ways in which people encounter
information about current events through digital media when they were not
actively seeking the news. The past few years have seen a significant
increase in incidental news consumption on digital platforms and social
media, accompanied by heightened scholarly attention to the phenomenon. The
aim of this issue is to contribute to and develop research on this
phenomenon, and its implications on areas such as media consumption habits,
journalistic practices, and democratic participation. Research in mass
communication and political communication has examined issues related to
incidental news consumption since the pioneering work of Downs (1957).
Since then, and in particular in relation to the rise of social media,
there has been growing interest among scholars related to understanding the
causes, dynamics, and consequences of consuming news in an incidental
fashion online.
The editors invite contributions related to the topic of incidental news,
including both rigorous empirical articles (using quantitative,
qualitative, computational and/or mixed methods) as well as theoretical
articles with conceptualizations and synthesis of relevant literature.
Articles should clearly define and delineate their use of the concept
incidental news and/or its relation to other concepts used. We are
interested in contributions that examine the topic through different
methodologies, perspectives (e.g. audiences, texts, media platforms) and
contexts.
Possible areas of interest include but are not limited to:
 - Causes and Dynamics of incidental news consumption
 - Incidental news consumption across different media channels, platforms
and devices
 - Incidental news consumption and journalistic practices
 - Effects of incidental news consumption
 - Conceptual elaboration, historical comparison
Instructions for contributors and tentative timeline
We invite contributors to send a 750 word abstract and an abbreviated
author(s) bio describing previous and current research relating to the
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2018. The abstract should address the relevance of the proposed article to
the special issue theme, detail its methodology and the current status of
the research. The editors will then notify authors whether they will be
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be submitted by April 30, 2019. Note that all invited articles will still
go through full and anonymous peer review, and that being invited to submit
a full article is no guarantee of final publication in the themed issue.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 23:37:36 +0300
From: Dimitris Gouscos <gouscos@media.uoa.gr>
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
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dear David,
I am watching this list for very nice issues and ideas that come along,
and just saw your post
without having readily at hand the references to back up my view, I
recall it was George Bernard Shaw that had been arguing in his essays
(maybe in What socialism is (Fabian tract 13), cf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_George_Bernard_Shaw#Political...),
that sun tanning became fashionable as an outspring of the industrial
revolution, just in the same way thatin earlier timespale skin had
become a sign of nobleness and beauty in outdoors-work based economies
the point I'm trying to make, in fact, is that the answer to your
question may exist in what you already mention yourself, that wealthier
(teen) users will at some point be looking at migrating away from a
network which has now lost (in their own perception of their own
society) its elite/status-symbol character ...
do you think this could be so? Just a thought ...
regards,
Dimitris
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???? 27/9/2018 11:03 ??, ? David Brake ??????:
...
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications
of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier
teens
https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc...,
speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for
these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be
interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of
them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook?
It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to
Facebook in the first place.
* Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I
speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of
people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy
leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ?culture?
which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
length of text used in online communication?)
* Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are
more effective at getting their message across using social media video and
images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware
and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ?raw?
video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of
their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status
leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these
points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which
may help some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
--
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Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media?
https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <
https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline>
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 20:42:47 +0000
From: "Barett T. Christensen" <bchristensen@bwf.com>
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
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This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it may be
interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of teens
(13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code
values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the bottom half
of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the top half
of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live in the
bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of teens
live in the top half of zip codes.
Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and percentage
of total teens.
1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook.
        a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
        b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
        c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
        d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
        e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living in
the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram.
        a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
        b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
        c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
        d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
        e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram living in
the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
Barett
Director, Marketing and Digital Services
Bentz Whaley Flessner
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Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications of
the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier
teens
https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc...,
speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for
these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be
interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of
them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It
surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to Facebook
in the first place.
* Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I
speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of
people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy
leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ?culture?
which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
length of text used in online communication?)
* Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are
more effective at getting their message across using social media video and
images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware
and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ?raw?
video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of
their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status
leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points,
I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help
some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
--
Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake
Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media?
https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <
https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline>
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 17:24:33 -0400
From: Chris Julien <juliencm22@gmail.com>
To: davidbrake@gmail.com
Cc: Air-L@listserv.aoir.org
Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
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Hello David,
Perhaps the move mirrors reasons found by danah boyd as she investigated
teen flight from myspace to facebook. She's written about this here:
boyd, danah. 2012. ?White Flight in Networked Publics: How Race and Class
Shaped American Teen Engagement with Myspace and Facebook.? Pp. 203-222 in
Race After the Internet, edited by L. Nakamura and P.A. Chow-White. New
York: Routledge.
In short, she found that the language teens used to describe their
migration mirrored the language of whites during what's traditionally been
called "white flight" from major US cities.
Chris Julien
PhD Student (PSU), MA (UNCG)
State College, PA, USA
www.chrisjulien.com
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:49 PM Barett T. Christensen <
bchristensen@bwf.com>
wrote:
...
This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it may be
interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of teens
(13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code
values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the bottom
half
of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the top
half
of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live in
the
bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of teens
live in the top half of zip codes.
Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and percentage
of total teens.
1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook.
        a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
        b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
        c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
        d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
        e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living in
the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram.
        a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
        b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
        c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
        d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
        e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram living in
the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
Barett
Director, Marketing and Digital Services
Bentz Whaley Flessner
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From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David Brake
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM
To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org>
Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications
of
the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier
teens
https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc...
,
...
speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for
these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be
interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of
them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook? It
surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to
Facebook
in the first place.
* Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I
speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of
people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy
leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ?culture?
which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
length of text used in online communication?)
* Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are
more effective at getting their message across using social media video
and
images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware
and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out
?raw?
video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because
of
their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a
status
leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these points,
I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may help
some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
--
Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/, @drbrake
Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media?
https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <
https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline>
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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:42:15 -0300
From: Ricardo Rohm <ricardorohm@gmail.com>
To: Dimitris Gouscos <gouscos@media.uoa.gr>,
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Subject: [Air-L] RES:  Facebook's class divide - implications
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Dear David,
I totally agree with Dimitris.
It is already time for people to wake up and become smarter. It has been
already demonstrated that Face and some other social networks have got  a
little to do with mental health and human development in terms of purpose,
ethics and welfare at large.
Best regards
Ricardo Rohm
Federal University of Rio de Janeiro
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dear David,
I am watching this list for very nice issues and ideas that come along,
and just saw your post
without having readily at hand the references to back up my view, I
recall it was George Bernard Shaw that had been arguing in his essays
(maybe in What socialism is (Fabian tract 13), cf.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_George_Bernard_Shaw#Political...),
that sun tanning became fashionable as an outspring of the industrial
revolution, just in the same way thatin earlier timespale skin had
become a sign of nobleness and beauty in outdoors-work based economies
the point I'm trying to make, in fact, is that the answer to your
question may exist in what you already mention yourself, that wealthier
(teen) users will at some point be looking at migrating away from a
network which has now lost (in their own perception of their own
society) its elite/status-symbol character ...
do you think this could be so? Just a thought ...
regards,
Dimitris
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???? 27/9/2018 11:03 ??, ? David Brake ??????:
...
Dear all,
I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social implications
of the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by wealthier
teens
https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc...,
speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup for
these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would be
interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to any of
them!
* Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving Facebook?
It surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to
Facebook in the first place.
* Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class communication/understanding? I
speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns of
people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the wealthy
leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual ?culture?
which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might represent.
* Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
length of text used in online communication?)
* Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people are
more effective at getting their message across using social media video and
images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better hardware
and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out ?raw?
video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined because of
their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a status
leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely true).
Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these
points, I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which
may help some of you to get grants ;-)
Regards,
David
--
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Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social Media?
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 05:09:35 +0000
From: Jannie M?ller Hartley <jath@ruc.dk>
To: Chris Julien <juliencm22@gmail.com>, "davidbrake@gmail.com"
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
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Hello David and others,
I have done qualitative research based on diaries with young people 15-18
and found the same in Denmark. Although I was mainly interested in news
consumption via social media and across platforms (and the article below
reflects that), it was clear that it's no longer cool for young people with
high cultural capital to use Facebook (and much of the evidence in the
diaries and interviews show just that). They might still have an account
and lurke, but they do not share, like or post. Theoretically, I call this
digital distinction, and it can also be compared to when the same young
people give up their smartphones and get a Nokia 5110.
The article is here:
https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322
@Valerie - I would also be interested in reading your work on the class
divide, if you don't mind sharing.
Best
Jannie M?ller Hartley |  Lektor, Ph.d. Journalist | Journalistik | IKH |
Roskilde Universitet
jath@ruc.dk
Associate Professor, Ph.d. | Director of the Digital Media Lab (DeMiLab):
digitalmedialab.ruc.dk <https://digitalmedialab.ruc.dk/ Department of
Communication and Arts | Roskilde University
42.2.15 | Box 260 | 4000 Roskilde | Denmark Phone: (+45) 4674 37 53Email:
jath@ruc.dk
// Chapter in new book: The Future of Audiences (2018), Palgrave McMillan
/'It?s Something Posh People Do?: Digital Distinction in Young People?s
Cross-Media News Engagement <
https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322>,
(2018) Media and Communication, A Matter of Trust- Plagiarism, fake sources
and paradigm repair in the Danish news media <
https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/TCrJUP2qzEF4qc2mskIg/full> (2018)
Journalism Studies. News Audiences and news habits <
http://communication.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-845>,
Oxford Encyclopedia of Journalism (2018)
--
?D. 27/09/2018 23.25 skrev "Air-L p? vegne af Chris Julien" <
air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org p? vegne af juliencm22@gmail.com>:
Hello David,
Perhaps the move mirrors reasons found by danah boyd as she
investigated
    teen flight from myspace to facebook. She's written about this here:
boyd, danah. 2012. ?White Flight in Networked Publics: How Race and
Class
    Shaped American Teen Engagement with Myspace and Facebook.? Pp.
203-222 in
    Race After the Internet, edited by L. Nakamura and P.A. Chow-White. New
    York: Routledge.
In short, she found that the language teens used to describe their
    migration mirrored the language of whites during what's traditionally
been
    called "white flight" from major US cities.
Chris Julien
    PhD Student (PSU), MA (UNCG)
    State College, PA, USA
    www.chrisjulien.com
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:49 PM Barett T. Christensen <
bchristensen@bwf.com>
    wrote:
> This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it
may be
    > interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of
teens
    > (13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code
    > values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the
bottom half
    > of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the
top half
    > of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live
in the
    > bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of
teens
    > live in the top half of zip codes.
    >
    > Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and
percentage
    > of total teens.
    >
    > 1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook.
    >         a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living
in
    > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
    >
    > 2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram.
    >         a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram
living in
    > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
    >
    >
    > Barett
    > Director, Marketing and Digital Services
    > Bentz Whaley Flessner
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David
Brake
    > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM
    > To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org>
    > Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
    >
    > Dear all,
    >
    > I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social
implications of
    > the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by
wealthier
    > teens
    >
https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc...
,
    > speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
    > conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup
for
    > these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would
be
    > interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to
any of
    > them!
    >
    > * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving
Facebook? It
    > surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to
Facebook
    > in the first place.
    > * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
    > facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class
communication/understanding? I
    > speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
    > information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns
of
    > people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the
wealthy
    > leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
    >
    > My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual
?culture?
    > which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might
represent.
    >
    > * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
    > length of text used in online communication?)
    > * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people
are
    > more effective at getting their message across using social media
video and
    > images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
    > resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better
hardware
    > and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out
?raw?
    > video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined
because of
    > their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a
status
    > leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely
true).
    >
    > Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these
points,
    > I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may
help
    > some of you to get grants ;-)
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > David
    >
    > --
    > Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/,
@drbrake
    > Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social
Media?
    > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <
    > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline>
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 05:51:50 +0000
From: Jenny Davis <jennifer.davis@anu.edu.au>
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        <juliencm22@gmail.com>, "davidbrake@gmail.com" <
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Hi David and All-
Fantastic conversation and great resources. Just to throw a small wrench
in the matter, research also shows that young people in disadvantaged
circumstances struggle with Facebook because of its default context
collapse and related amplification of social problems and violence. This
seems antithetical to the wealthy drop-off trend and complicates the puzzle
(see e.g. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444815625941)
[
http://journals.sagepub.com/na101/home/literatum/publisher/sage/journals/con...
]<http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444815625941>
The digital hood: Social media use among youth in ...<
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444815625941>
journals.sagepub.com
The digital hood: Social media use among youth in disadvantaged
neighborhoods
I think we all look forward to reading your piece!
Best,
Jenny
Jenny L. Davis
Lecturer, School of Sociology
The Australian National University
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https://twitter.com/Jenny_L_Davis>
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Hartley <jath@ruc.dk>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 3:09:35 PM
To: Chris Julien; davidbrake@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
Hello David and others,
I have done qualitative research based on diaries with young people 15-18
and found the same in Denmark. Although I was mainly interested in news
consumption via social media and across platforms (and the article below
reflects that), it was clear that it's no longer cool for young people with
high cultural capital to use Facebook (and much of the evidence in the
diaries and interviews show just that). They might still have an account
and lurke, but they do not share, like or post. Theoretically, I call this
digital distinction, and it can also be compared to when the same young
people give up their smartphones and get a Nokia 5110.
The article is here:
https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322
@Valerie - I would also be interested in reading your work on the class
divide, if you don't mind sharing.
Best
Jannie M?ller Hartley |  Lektor, Ph.d. Journalist | Journalistik | IKH |
Roskilde Universitet
jath@ruc.dk
Associate Professor, Ph.d. | Director of the Digital Media Lab (DeMiLab):
digitalmedialab.ruc.dk <https://digitalmedialab.ruc.dk/ Department of
Communication and Arts | Roskilde University
42.2.15 | Box 260 | 4000 Roskilde | Denmark Phone: (+45) 4674 37 53Email:
jath@ruc.dk
// Chapter in new book: The Future of Audiences (2018), Palgrave McMillan
/'It?s Something Posh People Do?: Digital Distinction in Young People?s
Cross-Media News Engagement <
https://www.cogitatiopress.com/mediaandcommunication/article/view/1322>,
(2018) Media and Communication, A Matter of Trust- Plagiarism, fake sources
and paradigm repair in the Danish news media <
https://www.tandfonline.com/eprint/TCrJUP2qzEF4qc2mskIg/full> (2018)
Journalism Studies. News Audiences and news habits <
http://communication.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-845>,
Oxford Encyclopedia of Journalism (2018)
--
?D. 27/09/2018 23.25 skrev "Air-L p? vegne af Chris Julien" <
air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org p? vegne af juliencm22@gmail.com>:
Hello David,
Perhaps the move mirrors reasons found by danah boyd as she
investigated
    teen flight from myspace to facebook. She's written about this here:
boyd, danah. 2012. ?White Flight in Networked Publics: How Race and
Class
    Shaped American Teen Engagement with Myspace and Facebook.? Pp.
203-222 in
    Race After the Internet, edited by L. Nakamura and P.A. Chow-White. New
    York: Routledge.
In short, she found that the language teens used to describe their
    migration mirrored the language of whites during what's traditionally
been
    called "white flight" from major US cities.
Chris Julien
    PhD Student (PSU), MA (UNCG)
    State College, PA, USA
    www.chrisjulien.com<http://www.chrisjulien.com>
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 4:49 PM Barett T. Christensen <
bchristensen@bwf.com>
    wrote:
> This is not formal research nor is it a response to trends, but it
may be
    > interesting. Using the Ads Manager, here is the current number of
teens
    > (13-18) on Facebook and Instagram and their distributions by zip code
    > values. You will see that 65% of teens on Facebook live in the
bottom half
    > of zip codes in the United States, while 37% of teens live in the
top half
    > of zip codes. You will also see that 67% of teens on Instagram live
in the
    > bottom half of zip code values in the United States, while 33% of
teens
    > live in the top half of zip codes.
    >
    > Facebook currently has a wealthier teen audience by count and
percentage
    > of total teens.
    >
    > 1. There are approximately 8.8 million teens on Facebook.
    >         a. 320K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         b. 660K (or 8%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         c. 920K (or 11%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         d. 1.2M (or 14%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         e. That leaves 5.7 million teens (or 65%) on Facebook living
in
    > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
    >
    > 2. There are approximately 7 million teens on Instagram.
    >         a. 250K (or 4%) live in the top 5% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         b. 520K (or 7%) live in the top 6-10% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         c. 680K (or 10%) live in the top 11-25% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         d. 840K (or 12%) live in the top 26-50% of wealthy zip codes.
    >         e. That leaves 2.3 million teens (or 67%) on Instagram
living in
    > the bottom half of zip codes in the United States.
    >
    >
    > Barett
    > Director, Marketing and Digital Services
    > Bentz Whaley Flessner
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces@listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of David
Brake
    > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:03 PM
    > To: AoIR mailing list <Air-L@listserv.aoir.org>
    > Subject: [Air-L] Facebook's class divide - implications
    >
    > Dear all,
    >
    > I am writing a piece for The Conversation about the social
implications of
    > the recent sharp decline in the use of Facebook in the US by
wealthier
    > teens
    >
https://qz.com/1355827/do-teens-use-facebook-it-depends-on-their-familys-inc...
,
    > speculating on the social implications of this shift. I made some
    > conjectures about this but the editors wanted some empirical backup
for
    > these if possible, so here are some of the issues I raise - I would
be
    > interested if anyone could suggest good references that relate to
any of
    > them!
    >
    > * Do we have any idea why wealthy American teens are leaving
Facebook? It
    > surprised me since it was wealthier MySpace users who migrated to
Facebook
    > in the first place.
    > * Do we have evidence that widespread Facebook use may have helped
    > facilitate inter-cultural or inter-class
communication/understanding? I
    > speculate it might because even if FB tends to show you strong tie
    > information, you might still get glimpses of the lives and concerns
of
    > people you knew whose lives have taken different paths. If the
wealthy
    > leave FB they might lose some of that information and empathy?
    >
    > My second half is about the shift from a textual to a visual
?culture?
    > which a move away from FB towards Instagram and Snapchat might
represent.
    >
    > * Do we have any quantitative evidence for this shift (eg shortening
    > length of text used in online communication?)
    > * Do we know anything about whether richer/more well-educated people
are
    > more effective at getting their message across using social media
video and
    > images than poorer? I would argue yes because they have the time and
    > resources to learn and employ editing techniques and use better
hardware
    > and software to do so while poorer people might tend just to put out
?raw?
    > video. Visible minorities also may find their message sidelined
because of
    > their visible lower ?status?. Whereas text is meant to be more of a
status
    > leveller than f2f (though of course we know this is not entirely
true).
    >
    > Pardon the rant. If there is no good scholarship on some of these
points,
    > I will be making the point that more scholarship is needed which may
help
    > some of you to get grants ;-)
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > David
    >
    > --
    > Dr David Brake, Researcher and Educator http://davidbrake.org/,
@drbrake
    > Author of "Sharing Our Lives Online: Risks and Exposure in Social
Media?
    > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline <
    > https://www.facebook.com/sharingourlivesonline>
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