Forgive the techno-reductionism here, but the Internet is not an entirely intangible, ethereal cloud of disembodied ideas either, possessing only a fictive geography. It does have a "real" physical dimension as well, always implied in the concept of "digital divide", i.e. actual machinery distributed throughout geographic space--computers connected by telephone lines and cables to servers in turn connected to other servers and computers, and so on. That is as much of a real space as any other space that I can think of, and it certainly does take up space. And that "where" is also its "when", to the extent that temporality is connected to the traveling of messages, data, images, whatever, throughout that hardware space. What makes "cyberspace" real for me then is that, unlike another mechanical tool (such as a jackhammer), this machine has something going on within it, human communication. That people create spaces for meanings within another space of enabling hardware only seems to validate the use of both spatial and temporal visualizations of the Internet. Cheers, Maximilian C. Forte Anthropology & Sociology University College of Cape Breton