By the way, the Association of Internet Researchers does provide a free means for anyone -- whether they are members are not -- to connect with others doing relevant work, find out about what else is going on that may interest them, and otherwise have their internet research interests sustained and supported by AoIR without paying membership dues. It's called air-l. How many other professional associations do you know that provide a free forum for nonmembers to complain about what the association doesn't do for them? I am amazed at the invisibility of the resource of air-l, even as its used as a means to discuss all that AoIR doesn't do. Bram is right that the question of what is interesting or good may not be the same as what is feasible (though those categories have certainly been collapsed in most of this discussion), and abstract discussion of what is good/right/ideal/etc has its utility. As ever, if there are people enthusiastic about undertaking the labor to make AoIR what you think it ought to be, let those of us on the exec committee know what you can pitch in. We always have more to be done. If you have ideas about what AoIR ought to be and no interest in contributing to making those things happen, then it may be an interesting discussion, but it won't motivate anyone to do it. Nancy