<declaration of interest> I review for iCS and have published in it and I was just in a bar in Downtown Vancouver with one of iCS's co-editors (Brian Loader) who missed the keynote as he had to write an iCS editorial this morning! </declaration of interest> For those not at AoIR Axel Bruns has already blogged a comprehensive note on the talk content: http://snurb.info/node/738 (which perhaps underplays the extent to which John used iCS as a 'straw man') I have published a number of pieces via Taylor & Francis (e.g. via Routledge books, iCS) and Wiley which have used the JISC/SURF copyright model. This does NOT transfer copyright to the publisher but gives them a non-exclusive license to publish and gives the author a default right to deposit in an institutional archive IMMEDIATELY ON PUBLICATION or (if need be) after an agreed period (maximum of 6 months). Ok, so they still keep the revenue but... I would strongly encourage all authors to push their publishers to use this model, many are moving towards it and will listen if you make the request. Publishers will point out that in not transferring copyright it is then up to you (or your institution) to pursue breaches of copyright. I think we all have to make a judgement on cost/benefit of that. If the first publisher on your list does not listen, vote with your feet. More info (including a link to a template) here: http://www.jisc.ac.uk/news/stories/2006/10/news_model_surf.aspx http://copyrighttoolbox.surf.nl/copyrighttoolbox/ I'm aware that it is a UK/NL effort and may not transfer - or perhaps it will? Ben -- http://chimeraweb.essex.ac.uk/tasc