thank you Ulla for posting news about the september project to the list. and thank you Maximilian for your well thought out comments about the project. i don't have the time i wish i had to respond in full, and i hope that others will chime in too. but before i begin, let me say this: the september project is not *about* 9-11. rather, it is about public and collective engagement that takes place *on* 9-11. the only thing we have asked is this: that all events be FREE and PUBLIC. besides that, and this is a key point Maximilian, we encourage all organizers to plan events that relate to their communities, their cities and towns, their countries. has that happened? yes. please visit: O Projecto Setembro PORTUGAL http://setembro.ciberpunk.org El Proyecto Septiembre SPAIN http://septiembre.ciberpunk.org The September Project US http://www.theseptemberproject.org if you translate the sites (http://babelfish.altavista.com isn't perfect but it seems to help out), you will notice that our friends and colleagues in Spain and Portugal have altered their events and topics to fit their own concerns, communities, etc. we think that's pretty cool. david silver www.theseptemberproject.org