Just to clarify: Mexicans are fingerprinted too, we are not that special :) On another note, we hope the outcome of the election in November 2nd gears this country towards more open and peaceful times. Specially so, if Aior 2005 will be held in one of the most beautiful cities in the US: Chicago. I hope many people has the opportunity to attend it. Have a nice day Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan L Burk" <burkx006@umn.edu> To: <air-l@listserv.aoir.org>; <air-l@listserv.aoir.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues
While I am certainly not a fan of the current U.S. alien identification procedures, some of this discussion is becoming a bit hysterical.
Mexican and Canadian travellers are not fingerprinted due to provisions of NAFTA. I assure you that if the Department of Homeland Security could fingerprint Mexican and Canadian travellers without re-negotiating the treaty, it would.
(For that matter, if DHS could fingerprint domestic travellers without a popular uprising, it undoubtedly would. It is quietly working toward that end, beginning with a "trusted traveller" program to induce "voluntary" biometric recordation.)
I would also be perfectly happy to see the conference held outside the U.S. again. Montreal and Vancouver come to mind. Budapest is nice, too.
Dan L. Burk Oppenheimer, Wolff & Donnelly Professor University of Minnesota Law School 229 19th Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55455 USA *************************************** Voice: 612-626-8726 Fax: 612-625-2011 bits: burkx006@umn.edu
On 5 Oct 2004, peter jakubowicz wrote:
I fully concur with Dr. Wu. Why is it that every person on the planet (except Canadians and Mexicans who are not crooks) has to be fingerprinted by the FBI? Is it because Canadians and Mexicans are more honest? Or, is it because these two countries border the U.S. of A. and are no threat whatsoever? In light of this, I think the AoIR conference should be held anywhere but the US.
Peter Jakubowicz The Chinese University of Hong Kong
--- meiwu@umac.mo wrote:
The newest policy I've heard of is that except for Canadian and Mexican passport holders, any foreigner with a visiting visa has to be taken finger prints at the US border. I don't know when exactly this policy will be implemented, but I've learned that the Japanese government is complaining. WM
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which visa policy is this? On Oct 4, 2004, at 9:31 PM, meiwu@umac.mo wrote:
I've sided with Philipp. I'd also like to bring to your attention the new visa entry policy of the US government. It'll make any conferences held in the US unattractive to international participants.
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